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This tier list is very weird and flawed. I don't know what this tier list counts towards, is it about the win-rates, the potential of these heroes or maybe how often they are picked? Regardless, there is no doubt that this information is wrong. Having heroes like Ana in mid-tier, Medivh in low-tier and even Rexxar is in the same spot as Dva. This is just wrong, I am an master player and know drafting as the competitive players, I inherit the same mindset in drafting as those high tier players do. I myself would nearly revamp 80-90% of this tier list, I find it quiet embarrassing to see this interpretation. It's nothing huge, but I couldn't let it go and state facts on the current state of the game.

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Guest EHS

I can't say I like this layout, being able to see all (or at least most) of the tiers was more useful.

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On 8/9/2020 at 4:37 PM, Thegreat610 said:

This tier list is very weird and flawed. I don't know what this tier list counts towards, is it about the win-rates, the potential of these heroes or maybe how often they are picked? Regardless, there is no doubt that this information is wrong. Having heroes like Ana in mid-tier, Medivh in low-tier and even Rexxar is in the same spot as Dva. This is just wrong, I am an master player and know drafting as the competitive players, I inherit the same mindset in drafting as those high tier players do. I myself would nearly revamp 80-90% of this tier list, I find it quiet embarrassing to see this interpretation. It's nothing huge, but I couldn't let it go and state facts on the current state of the game.

The current Tier List is targeted towards the average level of play and is accounting for the difficulty to play a given Hero as well. We are already thinking about a different approach to provide a solid Tier List for everyone. Thank you for the feedback and stay tuned!

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On 8/10/2020 at 1:26 PM, Guest EHS said:

I can't say I like this layout, being able to see all (or at least most) of the tiers was more useful.

I've removed empty rows for now. We have some ideas for improving the tier list's layout, but with the workload for Shadowlands, it's going to need to wait a bit ?

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Oh, I see

On 8/11/2020 at 8:57 AM, Elitesparkle said:

The current Tier List is targeted towards the average level of play and is accounting for the difficulty to play a given Hero as well. We are already thinking about a different approach to provide a solid Tier List for everyone. Thank you for the feedback and stay tuned!

Oh, I see now, my original comment is not suited for this then, and I can say I went little bit too aggressive. I have you know that I've seen all the different heroes guides, I also know about the authors reputations. As what I know, this is one of the only professional sites that makes topics about Heroes, that lists builds and explains the meta to some extent, meanwhile having this tier list that is reflected on average players. The tier list is fine then to me. I would like to see something in the future that is reflected towards the higher levels. Anyways, Thanks for acknowledging my comment. 

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Guest Heroic Ryan

I noticed an error in the list. Thrall is listed as a melee assassin when he's actually a bruiser...

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7 hours ago, Guest Heroic Ryan said:

I noticed an error in the list. Thrall is listed as a melee assassin when he's actually a bruiser...

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I submitted a fix to this issue, so it should be fixed on the website soon.

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17 hours ago, Guest Elendias said:

Same with Ragnaros. He's a bruiser in-game

Thanks, this should be fixed soon

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Guest Lytherael

So, the guide to Varian says that you should pick Taunt for tanking, Twin Blades to fulfill the role of a bruiser and Colossus Smash to be an assassin. I think it would be more prudent to put the Smash version of Varian in as a melee assassin instead, seeing as you've already moved his Taunt version into the tank category (he's listed as a bruiser ingame).

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Some other role mistakes in the tier list are:

Deathwing listed as Ranged Assassin (he's a Bruiser)

Uther listed as Support (he's a Healer)

Imperius listed as Tank and also Melee Assassin (he's a Bruiser)

Hopefully that helps, because there is no Bruiser category, and I hear that Tank is an ambiguous term in ranked play.

Edited by CaptainFalcon

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We decided to slightly move away from in-game Roles because they don't cover all the ways a given Hero can be drafted (eg. Uther can be played as Healer, Tank, or even Support).

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On 10/5/2020 at 8:08 PM, Guest Heroic Ryan said:

I noticed an error in the list. Thrall is listed as a melee assassin when he's actually a bruiser...

 

On 10/6/2020 at 4:04 AM, positiv2 said:

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I submitted a fix to this issue, so it should be fixed on the website soon.

 

On 10/11/2020 at 2:05 PM, Guest Elendias said:

Same with Ragnaros. He's a bruiser in-game

 

On 10/12/2020 at 7:49 AM, positiv2 said:

Thanks, this should be fixed soon

Then all of this is irrelevant as well, isn't it?

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On 4/24/2021 at 9:47 AM, CaptainFalcon said:

Then all of this is irrelevant as well, isn't it?

We try to follow in-game Roles when possible, but we cannot do that for Tier Lists if we want to be accurate because there are some Heroes who belong to a different Tier based on which Role they are played as. I hope that's clear.

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On 4/24/2021 at 9:47 AM, CaptainFalcon said:

  

 

 

 

Then all of this is irrelevant as well, isn't it?

Hey, the tier list has been reworked since then, and we ended up changing the roles of the Heroes to reflect the drafting and strategy instead of the in-game roles, which was the case before. This meant "duplicating" the heroes for different roles (for example Ragnaros) if they are playable as such, and introducing the Solo Laner role, as the in-game "Bruiser" role does not align with it enough.

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Guest Razor

How are Cho and Gall not in the same tier? Gall cant realy be called tier 1 if you have to play Cho with him.

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3 hours ago, Guest Razor said:

How are Cho and Gall not in the same tier? Gall cant realy be called tier 1 if you have to play Cho with him.

Gall is listed as Tier 1. Cho is listed as Tier 1 when played as Melee Assassin (with a Tank in team) and as Tier 3 when played as Tank (without another Tank in team).

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Guest Trikeesha

Ay i noticed that BAN is written in the corner on some of the characters,tf does that mean?

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11 hours ago, Guest Trikeesha said:

Ay i noticed that BAN is written in the corner on some of the characters,tf does that mean?

As explained in the introduction of the Tier List, Heroes that are worth banning at the beginning of the draft have been marked with a red label.

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Guest tHeEdg3

Junkrat went into the Bruiser category of tier 2 after the Rehgar patch. Guess this was unintentional. The Bruiser part at least, though. 

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6 hours ago, Guest tHeEdg3 said:

Junkrat went into the Bruiser category of tier 2 after the Rehgar patch. Guess this was unintentional. The Bruiser part at least, though. 

Thank you! We'll fix it soon.

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Guest Trying to improve

Can u make a tierlist map based for highelo ? It can be interesting 

 

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20 hours ago, Guest Trying to improve said:

Can u make a tierlist map based for highelo ? It can be interesting 

 

We think that's not necessary because our Map-based Tier Lists are already aimed more towards middle and high Ranks than low Ranks. This way we can keep them relevant for most players without having to split them into a low Rank version and a high Rank one. As you can guess by comparing our General Tier List with our Master Tier List, the amount of Heroes which would be in a different Tier is relatively low. In the end, we are just trying to give a general idea of the metagame on each Map, to help who is not familiar with them.

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