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In the Macro/Addon section, the mouseover macro conditionals (for Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch) should be "[@mouseover,harm][]". Without "harm" it acts as all mouseover, even if not targetting anything; without "[]" it will only cast when mousing over a target, not casting it against a target.

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I don't really understand how to use unfurling darkness on a single target.  Am I supposed to double cast vampiric touch any time I need to re-apply shadow word: pain (assuming I take it with Misery) to take advantage of the unfurling darkness proc?  It only lasts 8 seconds, so on a single target it can't ever be used to re-apply dots.

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Yes exactly, you want to ideally try and use that bonus damage every 15s, even if that means re-casting VT on a target that does not need refreshing yet.

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Guest ShinRai

Hey, with the Void Torrent changes now live on retail, what would be the optimal time to use it? How would you use it in the opener? Do you delay Void Torrent until the first DP is cast?

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On 11/19/2020 at 10:12 AM, Guest ShinRai said:

Hey, with the Void Torrent changes now live on retail, what would be the optimal time to use it? How would you use it in the opener? Do you delay Void Torrent until the first DP is cast?

Good question, I have updates that are queued up to the page soon so stay tuned for those. Generally speaking your goal with the opener is to get into Voidform ASAP, especially if you are lusting on pull. So for that reason we are primarily using Void Torrent strictly on the opener to get us a crap ton of Insanity. I do something like this:

 

- Prepull Vampiric Touch

- Shadow Word: Pain if not talented into Misery

- Void Torrent

- Shadowfiend

- Void Eruption

- Void Bolt

- Devouring Plague

 

Typically with Void Torrent overflowing us with Insanity we can drop that first Mind Blast. Hope this helps.

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Guest Acme

actually there are haste/crit gloves from Mists of Tirna Scithe, but there aren't any wrists...so i guess its just otherwise round and the best item to get Eternal Call of The Void are wrists.

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On 11/28/2020 at 9:22 AM, Guest Acme said:

actually there are haste/crit gloves from Mists of Tirna Scithe, but there aren't any wrists...so i guess its just otherwise round and the best item to get Eternal Call of The Void are wrists.

I did my sims with raid bis and with dungeon + raid bis and it seems that truthfully they are so close that it does not really matter at rank 4. That being said at lower ranks wrists seems to win, so I've reflected this change in the guide.

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Guest Thalian

I'm finding it hard to track which mob has Hungering Void debuff when in Dungeons how are you dealing with that Pub? I'm to scared to use Surrender to Madness so this is my go to but I know I'm wasting it often as I'm finding tracking very difficult. Cheers.

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Guest grandma_moses

I would like to snatch some information on the first few spells cast after entering Void Form in relation to what it says under the 'opening rotation' part of your guide.

At the point where you wrote 'use Mind Blast charges', wouldn't that be the point to re-hit Void Bolt?

So, would the correct rotation into Void Form not look like this, with making sure to hit a VB every 3 casts? -->

 

VF - PI - VB - UT - DP - VB - MB - DP - VB - MB - DP - VB - MB ( cooldown fits exactly here ) - filler ( as you miss Insanity for another DP ) - VB

 

That's assuming you have talented into Mindbender to get the Insanity necessary to pull this off and having no procs from the Dissonant Echoes conduit.

And one more thing I like to enquire: Is Unholy Transfusion, especially with Emeni as soulbind, a higher priority than applying our two bread-and-butter dots at the start of a fight when VF and PI are on cooldown?

 

Thanks in advance, have a nice day!

 

 

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On 12/1/2020 at 12:00 PM, Guest Thalian said:

I'm finding it hard to track which mob has Hungering Void debuff when in Dungeons how are you dealing with that Pub? I'm to scared to use Surrender to Madness so this is my go to but I know I'm wasting it often as I'm finding tracking very difficult. Cheers.

Howdy! There are a few things I do to get around this, try these out and see what works for you:

1. Weak Aura to track the debuff on my current target. Can only be on one target at a time so this is good for me as a starting point. I use the one built into my set: https://wago.io/HkQsadDaf

2. Plater is a great way to track your debuffs on mobs. Highly suggest giving this addon a try: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/plater-nameplates

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On 12/3/2020 at 8:59 AM, Guest grandma_moses said:

I would like to snatch some information on the first few spells cast after entering Void Form in relation to what it says under the 'opening rotation' part of your guide.

At the point where you wrote 'use Mind Blast charges', wouldn't that be the point to re-hit Void Bolt?

So, would the correct rotation into Void Form not look like this, with making sure to hit a VB every 3 casts? -->

 

VF - PI - VB - UT - DP - VB - MB - DP - VB - MB - DP - VB - MB ( cooldown fits exactly here ) - filler ( as you miss Insanity for another DP ) - VB

 

That's assuming you have talented into Mindbender to get the Insanity necessary to pull this off and having no procs from the Dissonant Echoes conduit.

And one more thing I like to enquire: Is Unholy Transfusion, especially with Emeni as soulbind, a higher priority than applying our two bread-and-butter dots at the start of a fight when VF and PI are on cooldown?

 

Thanks in advance, have a nice day!

 

 

Hello! Thanks for pointing this out, I realize after you said this that I somewhat mixed the opener rotation and the priority list and that it could be confusing. When I pointed out to dump Mind Blast charges I should have just said "continue on with priority list" at that point, rather than dump both back to back as it reads.

To the second question, yes Unholy Transfusion is higher priority if and only if the mobs will live 15s or less. If you have enough time to DoT and THEN apply UT without any mobs dying, that is also more than fine. That just doesn't happen that often 🙂

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1 hour ago, Publik said:

Hello! Thanks for pointing this out, I realize after you said this that I somewhat mixed the opener rotation and the priority list and that it could be confusing. When I pointed out to dump Mind Blast charges I should have just said "continue on with priority list" at that point, rather than dump both back to back as it reads.

To the second question, yes Unholy Transfusion is higher priority if and only if the mobs will live 15s or less. If you have enough time to DoT and THEN apply UT without any mobs dying, that is also more than fine. That just doesn't happen that often 🙂

Thank you very much for the quick answer and all the work you've put into this guide, it has been an invaluable source of information so far and it's nicely formatted on top of all that sweet information.

 

Keep doing what you're doing and enjoy Shadowlands - see you around!

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