Outlaw Rogue PvE

[Seliathan 6]

On 1/31/2023 at 5:30 PM, Guest Avengerx said:

Helloes!

I have a feeling the RtB usage has a few mistakes aswell. Current one states that you should keep the buff if: 

• you have  Skull and Crossbones as a single buff OR
• you have 2 buffs and one of them is  Grand Melee (unless the other is Skull and Crossbones) OR
• you have 3 or more buffs.

1st and 3rd points are fine I think, but shouldn't 2nd one state that don't reroll if one of the buffs is Skull and Crossbones? Or technically always reroll the 2 lowest ones, Grand Melee and Buried Treasure?

Hey there, sorry for missing this response. You keep all combinations of 2 buffs, except for those who have Grand Melee, unless the Grand Melee is paired up with SnC. It's a bit difficult to put that logic into a single line, but I hope that clarifies it.

On 1/31/2023 at 6:52 PM, Guest Hicksey said:

Yeah that works!  Most other guides have the tree showing for each build instead of the import strings, would be a little more helpful to do that but the string does work.

As the talent trees themselves are fairly big and take up a lot of space, we typically only include a single full tree, and provide import strings for all others. 🙂

9 hours ago, FeelsandNeeds said:

Hello,

Please do not take this the wrong way but hopefully as a constructive criticisms if anything. I just find it confusing the M+ tips page-(edit) mentions the importance of Gouge on 3 paragraphs but yet the talent tree does not have it. It seems it focuses on the stealth and all its cool abilities with Shadow Dance yet it does not have Count the Odds picked up in the spec tree.

Am I missing the big picture here? 

Keep up the great work. I do appreciate it. 

Hey! Always happy about criticism, so don't worry about it! As it states at the beginning right above the Talent Tree itself:

Below are the suggested talents for Mythic+. These talents are the highest DPS-enhancing talents, but some of them can be replaced for useful utility, like replacing Cold Blood with Gouge .

Gouge isn't universally useful in every dungeon, as we have many other abilities to disrupt spells (and so does everybody else in the group). That's why it's not recommended in the loadout itself, but mentioned throughout the M+ section, in the same vein as Blind and Kidney Shot are. I hope that clears it up 🙂

Regarding CTO, it is a bit of a divisive issue in the Rogue community at the moment. With the most recent nerfs to Fan The Hammer, picking up CTO *can* smoothen out the rotation and perform better than Greenskins Wickers. It does add an additional element of tracking CTO buffs, though, as CTO buffs are their own instance of RTB buffs and do not get replaced when re-casting RTB. I recommend simming to find out if (and how much) of a DPS increase talenting into CTO is going to be for you. The talents to remove for it, would be Greenskins Wickers for 1/2 CTO, and Heavy Hitter for 2/2. Your mileage may vary on this. 😉

[FeelsandNeeds 3]

Hi, 

Out of pure luck I got Mutated Magmammoth Scale on my first S2 dungeon. Immediately noticed it sims really high for me. I know it might be anecdotal and character specific but I wanted to ask if it wasn't maybe omitted by mistake in the "Gear and Best in Slot" - Trinket Rankings. Quickly simmed it against two bottom recommendations: Harlan's Loaded Dice and Ominous Chromatic Essence which resulted being above them (normalized ilvl).

Edited May 11 by FeelsandNeeds

[Seliathan 6]

On 5/12/2023 at 1:55 AM, FeelsandNeeds said:

Hi, 

Out of pure luck I got Mutated Magmammoth Scale on my first S2 dungeon. Immediately noticed it sims really high for me. I know it might be anecdotal and character specific but I wanted to ask if it wasn't maybe omitted by mistake in the "Gear and Best in Slot" - Trinket Rankings. Quickly simmed it against two bottom recommendations: Harlan's Loaded Dice and Ominous Chromatic Essence which resulted being above them (normalized ilvl).

Hey FeelsandNeeds,

trinkets have changed a lot due to the tuning up until and including the last few days before the new season started. You are indeed correct that the Mutated Magmammoth Scale seems to be performing very well for Outlaw, same as the Frenzying Signoll Flare. Mark of Dargrul is also performing better than initially anticipated, and the next update to the Gear page (sometime today, most likely) will reflect the newest gear and trinket sim findings.

Hope that answers your question, and apologies for not being able to provide updated gear information sooner.