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Ion Hazzikostas on the Raid Release Close to the Holidays

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Here comes a response to the holiday-related release of the first Shadowlands raid from Game Director Ion Hazzikostas, as he talks about how a potential delay would affect the pacing of the expansion and how trying to avoid situations like this isn't always possible. The response comes in relation to a WarcraftLogs tweet and a reply to it, as originally spotted by Wowhead.

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“Making everyone raid”? Ridiculous. They make it sound like something they dont want to do. It isnt a job - if you arent having enough fun to do it during holiday weeks, then just dont do it. If you dont want to raid super hardcore, dont.

 

Simply silly that players of a video game would complain about content being available during the holidays. If thats bad for you, then get some perspective. Enjoying higher difficulty doesnt mean turning the task into so much of a job that a holiday release is a negative.

 

Plus, who would be going to lots of christmas events irl during covid’s second big surge? 
 

And of course, the rest of the people who want to play mythic shouldnt have to wait for those who turn it into a life consuming chore.

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The only way to avoid this is to release Shadowlands next year...and that's another big bag of complaints.

So...like Ion said...it's a no win situation.

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2 hours ago, miggfo said:

Plus, who would be going to lots of christmas events irl during covid’s second big surge? 

Hah, you don't have kids, do you? ? For most WoW players it's not a question of visiting the grandparents or Christmas market instead of a good nigh of mythic raiding with the guildmates, but rather tending for the family, partner or teaching the children how to decorate a Christmas tree. A classic dilemma of "me time" vs. "we time" which is always more irksome at holidays.

P.S.: I think as well that delaying would be worse, but still - Christmas is a kind of debuff for many.

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12 hours ago, miggfo said:

“Making everyone raid”? Ridiculous. They make it sound like something they dont want to do. It isnt a job - if you arent having enough fun to do it during holiday weeks, then just dont do it. If you dont want to raid super hardcore, dont.

This.

People just hate being responsible so they'll be like, "I don't want to do this so what are YOU gonna do about it?". It's your predicament. You handle it.

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12 hours ago, miggfo said:

“Making everyone raid”? Ridiculous. They make it sound like something they dont want to do. It isnt a job - if you arent having enough fun to do it during holiday weeks, then just dont do it. If you dont want to raid super hardcore, dont.

Very true for the majority of people. However there are some others to consider - for some it is a job, those pesky world first racers don't do it for free I suspect. Add to that, (and this is why I thought they avoided this date but times change...) it's not just the players that need to be "working", but the developers, CS staff, GM's etc. Beta testing is limited, hence pre patches, and the larger volume of players cause new bugs or exacerbate existing ones. They need addressing at a time when many staff are on holiday and they tend to run skeleton crews over thanksgiving, christmas and new years.

 

The playerbase can be dicks at times, but we don't expect people to be working hard over the holidays (usually).

 

This change is just another sign the Blizzard of old is well and truly dead. 

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People are getting stir crazy waiting for release. Not to mention right now in Beta you are surprised to see another player within a country mile. The folks that started in Alpha are burnt out, the new wave just seems to thin.

I know people who work in the retail world hate this because getting time off to enjoy the game during the holidays won't happen. Everyone celebrated the delay, not sure there was a real win win on release time. Blizzard put their own feet in the fire by promising the game would release before the new year.  

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