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Kael'thas' Voiceovers Re-recorded in Patch 9.1

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Kael'thas received a new voice actor, and his Burning Crusade voiceovers have been completely re-recorded in Patch 9.1.

Portergauge spotted that Kaelthas' voiceovers in both Magister's Terrace and the Eye raid have been recast in Chains of Domination.

Magister's Terrace Dungeon Voiceovers

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The Eye Raid Voiceovers

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Do you like the new voice actor better?

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Hm... the old one sounded more lively, selling the psychological issues KT must be harboring better.

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What "actors issues"?  I've never heard anything about a problem with Kael'thas.

Sigh.  Another random change seemingly just for the sake of changing things.

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4 minutes ago, Nastybirdy said:

What "actors issues"?  I've never heard anything about a problem with Kael'thas.

Sigh.  Another random change seemingly just for the sake of changing things.

It's probably the new actor working for less money.   

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24 minutes ago, Nastybirdy said:

What "actors issues"?  I've never heard anything about a problem with Kael'thas.

Sigh.  Another random change seemingly just for the sake of changing things.

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with Quinton Flynn disclosing his struggles with substance abuse, and Blizzard having an almost Disney-like mentality regarding things like that.

Edit - Also, it would appear that Blizzard is distancing themselves from him due to sexual harassment allegations regarding some fans.

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1 minute ago, durdyenglish said:

People are going to make a big deal over this just to throw gas on the Blizzard-hate dumpster fire, but it's essentially inconsequential.

Well, considering drug problems tend to be made to be bad when it effects them negatively, but praised when it benefits them, so i tend to not pay attention to the BS.

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Not stating that anything is true or false, nor any opinion on the matter, as I know too little about it - I believe this is likely tied to the allegations of sexual harassment towards fans, with some claiming to be minors at the time.

Again, no idea if there is any truth to it, nor where the actual case is in regards to evidence, proof, etc., but I imagine Blizzard have jumped ship just in case it does come out as true. I don't think anything has been proven in court as of now, but I may be wrong. I don't think the case has even been properly processed yet, the most I can find online is that he is refusing to comment (I think).

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Uh... Sounds basically like Quinton Flyinn. Are we absolutely sure this is a new VA and not just Blizz/Flynn deciding to re-record those lines? And why would they bring in a new VA for those old lines and not any of his recent Shadowlands lines? Or his Heroes of the Storm lines?

In regards to his "issues", shall we say: First, his sexual abuse allegations have been going around as early as November of last year (6 months ago). Second, his admittance of drug abuse was conducted in an interview 2 months ago. So we're saying that Blizzard decided, after 2-6 months of sitting with their thumb in their crack, that they just want to suddenly change VAs?

Either way, I'm not bothered about this right now. I'm merely questioning why we're taking this speculation as fact when we haven't heard anything on either Blizzard's or Flynn's part. Or, at the very least, I cannot find any other information on this anywhere.

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just another pr stunt by blizz,  one person doing something iffy=fire them,  china doing all sorts of wrong stuff=pander to em for more money

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3 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

Couldn't possibly have anything to do with Quinton Flynn disclosing his struggles with substance abuse, and Blizzard having an almost Disney-like mentality regarding things like that.

Edit - Also, it would appear that Blizzard is distancing themselves from him due to sexual harassment allegations regarding some fans.

So those are just allegations and he wasn't convicted so far? Companies these days are very fast to act on things like these, just to cover their asses (yet they are often still fine to neglect many forms of abuse, unless it comes to light).

 Well, at least they aren't going to replace his voice lines in HotS. Benefits of it being a semi-dead game, I guess.

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1 hour ago, Arcling said:

So those are just allegations and he wasn't convicted so far? Companies these days are very fast to act on things like these, just to cover their asses (yet they are often still fine to neglect many forms of abuse, unless it comes to light).

 Well, at least they aren't going to replace his voice lines in HotS. Benefits of it being a semi-dead game, I guess.

My best is that :

1. he is actually guilty and a creep

2. is in the same situation as Johnny Depp and Vic Mignogna

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On 4/14/2021 at 1:33 PM, Arcling said:

So those are just allegations and he wasn't convicted so far? Companies these days are very fast to act on things like these, just to cover their asses (yet they are often still fine to neglect many forms of abuse, unless it comes to light).

 Well, at least they aren't going to replace his voice lines in HotS. Benefits of it being a semi-dead game, I guess.

Supposing it is true, and you were one of the fans, and you play WoW. On a scale from 1 to Jar Jar Binks how much would it suck to have to hear your predator's voice in a video game? 

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6 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

Supposing it is true, and you were one of the fans, and you play WoW. On a scale from 1 to Jar Jar Binks how much would it suck to have to hear your predator's voice in a video game? 

Of course, it would suck. It's normal that company doesn't want to be associated with such allegations, regardless if case in court is closed or ongoing. At least it looks like they might be true this time.

But another thing is, should we then erase every trace of this guy's work? It's a matter of separating character from voice actor, but it's always been a very divisive issue. Some people are fine with it, others aren't. There are characters who had their actors changed over the years, but their old lines haven't been replaced. In my opinion, rerecorded lines sound a bit worse, so they should have kept those from BC. Anyway, at least they are going to keep old Kael in W3 and HotS, since they don't care much about these games anymore. 😅

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41 minutes ago, Arcling said:

Of course, it would suck. It's normal that company doesn't want to be associated with such allegations, regardless if case in court is closed or ongoing. At least it looks like they might be true this time.

But another thing is, should we then erase every trace of this guy's work? It's a matter of separating character from voice actor, but it's always been a very divisive issue. Some people are fine with it, others aren't. There are characters who had their actors changed over the years, but their old lines haven't been replaced. In my opinion, rerecorded lines sound a bit worse, so they should have kept those from BC. Anyway, at least they are going to keep old Kael in W3 and HotS, since they don't care much about these games anymore. 😅

With something where the voice can continue to be relevant, I believe so. For example, if Naruto releases new dubs, then Iruka should be re-cast. If they don't release new dubs, but continue to license the English dubs out, then those should be re-recorded with a new actor. Some of this may depend on contract terms, but newer contracts definitely have morality clauses where if you do/did something that could bring a negative reputation to the company, they'll replace you. With WoW, it's unlikely that he continues to make any money beyond the initial recording work, but with Naruto he very well could be getting a percentage of the licensing of English dubs he's recorded for.

Edit - A similar example might be the US $20 bill - replacing Andrew Jackson with Harriet Tubman. Replacing him doesn't erase how much of a piece of *filtered* he was, and you can still learn about that in history books.

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4 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

Some of this may depend on contract terms, but newer contracts definitely have morality clauses where if you do/did something that could bring a negative reputation to the company, they'll replace you. With WoW, it's unlikely that he continues to make any money beyond the initial recording work, but with Naruto he very well could be getting a percentage of the licensing of English dubs he's recorded for.

Yeah, afaik Blizzard doesn't employ any actors directly, only through agencies. That's why they keep reusing same voices and you are as likely to hear them in any other mainstream game, animation, dub etc., as in Blizzard games. Perhaps Quinton Flynn got fired from his acting agency and that's why we aren't going to hear him anymore. Btw, I've checked his Twitter and looks he has been silent since november.

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12 minutes ago, Arcling said:

Yeah, afaik Blizzard doesn't employ any actors directly, only through agencies. That's why they keep reusing same voices and you are as likely to hear them in any other mainstream game, animation, dub etc., as in Blizzard games. Perhaps Quinton Flynn got fired from his acting agency and that's why we aren't going to hear him anymore. Btw, I've checked his Twitter and looks he has been silent since november.

Yeah apparently the most recent thing from him was during an interview that's available on YouTube where discloses his struggles with substance abuse.

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