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Huge Possible Spoiler and Story Implications for the Final Sanctum of Domination Sylvanas Encounter

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A very interesting thing has come up during today's raid testing, which might very strongly indicate that there will be a huge and somewhat unexpected (at least this early) confrontation taking place at the end of the Sanctum of Domination! Big potential spoilers ahead!

Pauper_Jenkins looked around the raid using Far Sight and spotted the Arbiter's room from Oribos inside the raid, which means there might be something happening there.

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But what could that something be? We've already seen the very top of Torghast in the recent Sanctum raid sneak peek, and the Arbiter's room actually is positioned above it there as well. Obviously the Arbiter's room isn't literally "above" Torghast, but these are the Shadowlands we're talking about, and the Jailer surely has his ways of traversing as well. It's also likely that the Sylvanas encounter will take place at the top of the tower... at least at first. If we take a look at the final raid encounter in more detail, the Dungeon Journal states that in the later phases Sylvanas waylays the players as the Jailer "ascends":

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The above happens after Sylvanas "destroys" the tower below, so we're definitely heading up, and is followed by:

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Final showdown between Death and inevitability? If you factor in the Oribos room into all that, it seems pretty likely we'll be seeing the Jailer facing off against the Arbiter, in one of the most one-sided fights in history unless the big soul dispatcher wakes up or someone other than us steps in to help, as we'll be busy with Sylvanas. This also indicates that the Jailer might be getting another key at the end of the raid, with theories about the Arbiter's chest-gem/pearl finally being resolved. Also, that means the final part of our fight with Sylvanas might be in that same room, and if I were a betting man I'd say those portals all around the platform will come into play.

This is a hugely interesting twist, as we weren't quite expecting the story to progress quite this fast. Also, could this possibly mean 9.2 will be the final raid/patch of Shadowlands? It seems like an extremely big leap there, but considering the delays we've already seen and 9.1 coming in 2-3 (or more?) months, it's possible Blizzard sped up the story a little. Then again it's just as likely that this was planned all along, but considering the relatively low stakes/story implications of Castle Nathria, this is a pretty huge step up - that is if any of it is true.

We still don't now what exactly happens at the end of the Sanctum of Domination, but the above is a pretty solid theory at this point, as I'm pretty sure the Jailer will get all of his keys before the end of Shadowlands. I just wasn't expecting it to go this quickly...

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As long as Sylvanas doesnt get killed and disappears from the content, i am fine with whatever outcome. Sylvanas storydevelopment has been topnotch in the last couple of years. would be a shame if it ends abruptly 😞

My Queen ❤️

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Sad that they had to ruin Slyvanas with "recontextualizing" her motives to fit this stupid handsome Squidward's plot

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4 hours ago, VeNdettaw0w said:

As long as Sylvanas doesnt get killed and disappears from the content, i am fine with whatever outcome. Sylvanas storydevelopment has been topnotch in the last couple of years. would be a shame if it ends abruptly 😞

My Queen ❤️

I really really really hope you're being sarcastic because that was the worst take I've ever heard. But to be fair, the average Sylvanas fan is maybe not the sharpest.

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1 hour ago, Gravewalker said:

I really really really hope you're being sarcastic because that was the worst take I've ever heard. But to be fair, the average Sylvanas fan is maybe not the sharpest.

oh boy sylvanas fans are realy hated here. im a undead player since classic so logicly i stand behind my queen and to be fair not every thing she did was nice but its war and lets be real many of the bad things she did in bfa was motivatet by the jailer cause on the search for a way for here people to survive she made a mistake and got bind in his service or something like this and the one thing that makes me believe this is that if you side with her as a horde player even after what happens at the gate of og you meet her in the ghostlands and she doesnt talk like a power hungry maniac but like someone who realy trys to find a way out of this *filtered* and even if she totaly got nuts and wants every single soul to be dead with her backstory i think you are allowed to go nuts 

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6 hours ago, VeNdettaw0w said:

As long as Sylvanas doesnt get killed and disappears from the content, i am fine with whatever outcome. Sylvanas storydevelopment has been topnotch in the last couple of years. would be a shame if it ends abruptly 😞

My Queen ❤️

hoping for the opposite.  Sylvanas needs to be removed from the game and never seen again.  I'm tired of writing that seems like it's taken the diary of a 14 year old emo teen.

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1 hour ago, Calorat said:

hoping for the opposite.  Sylvanas needs to be removed from the game and never seen again.  I'm tired of writing that seems like it's taken the diary of a 14 year old emo teen.

You... should prolly look into other games besides wow then.  That's as good as it gets for the wow writing staff lol.  😜

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9 hours ago, VeNdettaw0w said:

Sylvanas storydevelopment has been topnotch in the last couple of years

Yes, the best ever written: I am evil, I am not evil, I am evilm I am not evil, I am evil...

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To counter the idea that they'll rush the end of the expansion, that would imply that the next expansion is being worked on and could be released in an acceptable amount of time after 9.2...Blizzard has been so obviously far behind that I wonder if they even know the main plot of the next expansion yet... "Something something light is evil, Yrel is Hitler!"

Also I hope this isn't another goddamn Nyalotha, where a storyline is rushed, a top tier villain is wasted and we get an extremely short cinematic to wrap things up, and missing some key points like how the Giant Sword is still stabbing Azeroth and Azerite is still boiling out and whatnot.    We barely have spent any time with the jailor and have uncovered almost none of Sylvannas's motives.    They've been dropping hints for years now since the start of Legion about her having some grand scheme...what is the Jailer and her plan, what steps drove her towards it, what do each of them stand to gain, etc etc.

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1 hour ago, Migol said:

To counter the idea that they'll rush the end of the expansion, that would imply that the next expansion is being worked on and could be released in an acceptable amount of time after 9.2...Blizzard has been so obviously far behind that I wonder if they even know the main plot of the next expansion yet... "Something something light is evil, Yrel is Hitler!"

Also I hope this isn't another goddamn Nyalotha, where a storyline is rushed, a top tier villain is wasted and we get an extremely short cinematic to wrap things up, and missing some key points like how the Giant Sword is still stabbing Azeroth and Azerite is still boiling out and whatnot.    We barely have spent any time with the jailor and have uncovered almost none of Sylvannas's motives.    They've been dropping hints for years now since the start of Legion about her having some grand scheme...what is the Jailer and her plan, what steps drove her towards it, what do each of them stand to gain, etc etc.

Oh I didn't mean they'll rush the expansion in terms of actual real world time, just the story. 9.1 and 9.2 could last a looooooooooooooong time.

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13 hours ago, Migol said:

To counter the idea that they'll rush the end of the expansion, that would imply that the next expansion is being worked on and could be released in an acceptable amount of time after 9.2

They did it before in the gap between the last content patch of WoD and the release of Legion. It's not beyond them to do it again.

 

13 hours ago, Migol said:

Also I hope this isn't another goddamn Nyalotha, where a storyline is rushed, a top tier villain is wasted and we get an extremely short cinematic to wrap things up

You mean like they did with Illidan originally? And Grommash? And Sargeras? This is Blizzard's M.O.

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19 minutes ago, Brutalis said:

They did it before in the gap between the last content patch of WoD and the release of Legion. It's not beyond them to do it again.

 

You mean like they did with Illidan originally? And Grommash? And Sargeras? This is Blizzard's M.O.

The Sargeras part pissed me off SOOO much. It's the one thing about Legion I genuinely hate, just hey, he appears in the last 2 seconds and gets imprisoned, BYE 15 YEAR STORYLINE, SEE YOU LATER.

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I actually wasn't so pissed off about that because it would have seemed totally ridiculous for mortals to be able to fight with Sargeras from the start.    Us fighting a weakened titan with the keeper's aid was already pretty lore-bendy.

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