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The guide states druids have A tier healing and throughput but lists them as B tier. Whatever category is dragging them to B (e.g. utility) should be listed as well.

The guide also does not mention druid's Rebirth (Battle Rez) or Innervate nor their lack of an out of combat rez.

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7 hours ago, Guest Warlock said:

The guide states druids have A tier healing and throughput but lists them as B tier. Whatever category is dragging them to B (e.g. utility) should be listed as well.

The guide also does not mention druid's Rebirth (Battle Rez) or Innervate nor their lack of an out of combat rez.

Now that the  first week is done and we have logs as well as my own experience in clearing the first tier of TBC Classic I'll be adjusting the tier list. Druids have more throughput than I anticipated, and both Shamans and Paladins have less. Expect changes soon! 🙂 

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9 hours ago, Seksi said:

Now that the  first week is done and we have logs as well as my own experience in clearing the first tier of TBC Classic I'll be adjusting the tier list. Druids have more throughput than I anticipated, and both Shamans and Paladins have less. Expect changes soon! 🙂 

I have been trying to see if anyone else had noticed the logs and healer performance, which seems to be contrary to the conventional wisdom (shamans are the king of PVE and druids are just OK in PVE and better for PVP). I look forward to your updates. I hope you'll add points I made above to mention Rebirth, Innervate, and no OOC rez. Thanks.

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3 hours ago, Guest Warlock said:

I have been trying to see if anyone else had noticed the logs and healer performance, which seems to be contrary to the conventional wisdom (shamans are the king of PVE and druids are just OK in PVE and better for PVP). I look forward to your updates. I hope you'll add points I made above to mention Rebirth, Innervate, and no OOC rez. Thanks.

That wisdom comes from later seasons because Druid hots don't scale at all with Crit and Haste, which will start showing up more on gear as we advance through TBC.

Also, the type of content in the first few raids and Kara is 95% tank healing and barely any raid healing so that also favors Druids that can roll heals over time endlessly on the tank.

Once later tiers have higher secondary stats on gear and Chain Heal becomes an MVP spell to handle area of effect damage you'll see why Shamans have got such a good reputation 🙂

Changes went in this afternoon already, should be online tomorrow or so.

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9 hours ago, Seksi said:

That wisdom comes from later seasons because Druid hots don't scale at all with Crit and Haste, which will start showing up more on gear as we advance through TBC.

Also, the type of content in the first few raids and Kara is 95% tank healing and barely any raid healing so that also favors Druids that can roll heals over time endlessly on the tank.

Once later tiers have higher secondary stats on gear and Chain Heal becomes an MVP spell to handle area of effect damage you'll see why Shamans have got such a good reputation 🙂

Changes went in this afternoon already, should be online tomorrow or so.

Thanks for the explanations. It makes sense. I took a look at the Gruul rankings for druids, because I expect more raid damage. It was interesting to see varying healing styles. The top druid, Justinsanedr, had raid healing regrowth as his top heal. Some of the other top healers had totally different styles with Rejuv being top for another and Lifebloom for another. The Regrowth "style" would benefit from the most crit/haste. The Rejuv/LB style would less so (from haste on the breakpoints and not crit).

All this said, at the 90% level, RDruid is 555.51 vs RSham 416.69. That's a 33% difference. That's still quite a gap to make up. I am interested to see how things go--and if the trends to match historical TBC rankings--or if they change because of people know more now than they did back then--and have better tools to help optimize. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this guide. Thanks!

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13 minutes ago, Guest Warlock said:

Thanks for the explanations. It makes sense. I took a look at the Gruul rankings for druids, because I expect more raid damage. It was interesting to see varying healing styles. The top druid, Justinsanedr, had raid healing regrowth as his top heal. Some of the other top healers had totally different styles with Rejuv being top for another and Lifebloom for another. The Regrowth "style" would benefit from the most crit/haste. The Rejuv/LB style would less so (from haste on the breakpoints and not crit).

All this said, at the 90% level, RDruid is 555.51 vs RSham 416.69. That's a 33% difference. That's still quite a gap to make up. I am interested to see how things go--and if the trends to match historical TBC rankings--or if they change because of people know more now than they did back then--and have better tools to help optimize. Anyway, I'll keep an eye on this guide. Thanks!

I'm curious over how things will change as well, will keep an eye out on stats and such so I can keep things updated accordingly 🙂

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