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It seems Alex Afrasiabi isn't the only one getting references to their name removed in World of Warcraft. After the Overwatch team announced the renaming of hero McCree, the Washington Post received comments from Blizzard developers saying that there are more changes coming to WoW as well.

In addition to Jesse McCree (former Lead Level Designer), Louis Barriga (who was a Lead Developer on WoW for a long time before moving to Diablo 4) and Jonathan LeCraft (former Senior Game Designer) will also have references to their names removed in WoW, as all three men were let go from the company over the past month, in the wake of the Activision Blizzard discrimination lawsuit.

Currently, another popular Blizzard game, “World of Warcraft,” still contains references to Jesse McCree in the form of five character names and one city name. However, multiple current employees who wished to remain anonymous out of fear of reprisal said Thursday that nods to the longtime level designer will be removed from the game soon as well. In addition, references to two other former Blizzard developers, “Diablo 4” director Luis Barriga and “World of Warcraft” designer Jonathan LeCraft, will also be removed. A Blizzard spokesperson confirmed these changes.

“We can confirm that those references in ‘World of Warcraft’ will be removed,” the spokesperson said.

- Nathan Grayson, The Washington Post


Aside from the obvious Mac'Aree city/ruins on Argus, the characters mentioned would be Jesseriah McCree, Jessup McCree, Marshal McCree, Jenny McCree and Jessera of Mac'Aree for Jesse McCree, while Crafticus Mindbender, Torturer LeCraft and Jonathan Le Karf might be the ones related to Jonathan LeCraft, and at least Senior Scrivener Barriga for Luis Barriga.

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24 minutes ago, Mournrethar said:

Yes, becuase it matters so much.. 
As useless as removing /spit emote imo..

Yep it's completely hollow changes only done so people can pat themselves on the back and say "look we did something" while accomplishing nothing noteworthy or making any actual change

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36 minutes ago, Mournrethar said:

Yes, becuase it matters so much.. 
As useless as removing /spit emote imo..

Reddit right now 

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1 hour ago, Mournrethar said:

Yes, becuase it matters so much.. 
As useless as removing /spit emote imo..

The rename matters because the comm wanted it. Stop with your double standards.
 

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48 minutes ago, Dejo93 said:

Reddit right now 

 

If your suggestion is that Reddit is crying victory on this, I think you might live in an alternate universe. They were generally unhappy with /spit and with the removal of NPCs as anything really meaningful. 

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So... you guys complain that the devs who CAN make this kind of change, are responsible for corporate-level, company-wide, changes to various policies?

These kinds of comments are as disconnected as complaining about new character customizations taking dev time away from class balance.

It is not handled by the same people. The people getting these changes through, are doing what is forward facing, that they can affect. The bigger changes that need to happen internally, are not handled by the same people.

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Does this really fix anything? No, of course not.

Should they be allowed to remain in game content as an honor to their work on it? Also no.

I don't know about all the troll posters here, but I'm glad that sexual predators won't share the same virtual space as Amara Strande and Ezra Chatterton. Besides, people like this have huge egos, and chipping away at that in any way possible is worth doing.

 

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And, the fact that they were ever named in honor of them will forever remain as a fun fact or as a note at the bottom of wikis and in note sections.

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4 hours ago, Calorat said:

Yep it's completely hollow changes only done so people can pat themselves on the back and say "look we did something" while accomplishing nothing noteworthy or making any actual change

Or you know, they are changes that need to be made so that those who were victimized by these men don't have to feel that their abusers are celebrated?

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38 minutes ago, Amrehlu said:

And, the fact that they were ever named in honor of them will forever remain as a fun fact or as a note at the bottom of wikis and in note sections.

At some point it should make companies think that they should not name anything major after company members because regretably one day you might need to distance yourself from them. And while changing the names of some random NPCs is easy, changing something as major as an Overwatch Hero's name which is present in so many videos, voice acting or merchandising or such a central part of Warcraft Lore as Mac'aree is not as easy and is to the detriment of the games. Still absolutely has to happen ofc.

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So how are they going to deal with the name of Mac'Aree in Velen's recorded dialog as well as the written and map versions? Will they just change the spelling to Makari or something? As it's spelled now, it never did really seem to fit in with the names of the other areas or the Draenei lore.

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4 hours ago, Nayrusa said:

The rename matters because the comm wanted it. Stop with your double standards.
 

I am pretty much sure that "comm" doesn't represent us all. Never really cared how "Mac'Aree" was named but these names are already imprinted in our memory. 

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26 minutes ago, Elevendk said:

I am pretty much sure that "comm" doesn't represent us all. Never really cared how "Mac'Aree" was named but these names are already imprinted in our memory. 

In the end, only the loudest crybabies tend to be heard, especially when its about specific parts of the Human demographic.

 

31 minutes ago, Elevendk said:

I am gonna be pissed if they changes Mac'Aree. This Cali lawfarm and JSW are literally insane.

Well, they tend to never get satisfied, so i tend to ignore those self-entitled brats.

 

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1 hour ago, Elevendk said:

I am gonna be pissed if they changes Mac'Aree. This Cali lawfarm and JSW are literally insane.

And I'm sure you were just as pissed off at all those confederate statues being removed, too. Don't worry, your sexual abuse heroes will rise again! 

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5 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

I don't know about all the troll posters here, but I'm glad that sexual predators won't share the same virtual space as Amara Strande and Ezra Chatterton. Besides, people like this have huge egos, and chipping away at that in any way possible is worth doing.

Yeah, some of the comments here are appallingly stupid. They are exactly as if they came out from one of these "dudebro, anti-SJW" Youtube channels (which is probably true at least in some of the above cases). I think it's obvious that company doesn't want to be associated with these people anymore, so it's understandable why they are doing this. Besides, what several posters here are seemingly ignoring is the fact that those people aren't innocent, even if they didn't directly participate in a harassment of employees. As those in leadership positions, they were still aware of what was happening and enabling it, either by simple ignorance or by trying to protect their colleagues.

Btw, I had no idea that some of npcs mentioned in the article were even references to someone (those related to Jonathan LeCraft).

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come on guys says blizzard come on we removed the bad no no names from the game, why you still asking for better work conditions?

this is like applauding a guy who acid attacked someone because he is then willing to pay 10% of the hospital bill

no one even knew who these NPCs were and ESPEICALLY no one new they were named after devs, I thought Mac'aree was named after the overwatch character, not some dev.

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5 hours ago, Nym85 said:

Or you know, they are changes that need to be made so that those who were victimized by these men don't have to feel that their abusers are celebrated?

 

2 hours ago, druvirus said:

And I'm sure you were just as pissed off at all those confederate statues being removed, too. Don't worry, your sexual abuse heroes will rise again! 

Hiding history is easier than making actual change or confronting the actual problems, which is why both of these things were done.  If they really wanted to accomplish something productive/ send a better message, they could have moved all the NPC's into the Stockades as prisoners.

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