wow 9.1.5 PTR Patch Notes Update: Group Finder Improvements

[Staff 1,365]

 

There are Group Finder improvement coming to 9.1.5 as an authenticator will be required for custom text inside it! 

Group Finder (Source)

Updated the PTR notes with the following change:

User Interface and Accessibility

• Group Finder Improvements
  • Accounts now require an attached Battle.net Authenticator to post custom text when listing a group for Dungeons, Raids, or Rated PvP activities. All players may still search for and join others’ groups.
    • Developers’ note: A Group Finder that’s full of advertisements bothers us as much as it does you, but a challenge we’ve faced in trying to eliminate those ads is that they are often posted by compromised accounts or other throwaway accounts, such that penalties incurred by in-game reporting have not proven to be an effective deterrent. And regardless, relying on reports still means that some number of players have their experience disrupted by the spam before it gets reported. The Battle.net Authenticator is available for mobile devices and is a simple and convenient way to secure your World of Warcraft account, but if you prefer not to use it for whatever reason, you will still be able to post groups that will have descriptions auto-populated (e.g. based on raid name and difficulty selected in UI dropdowns, or derived from the Mythic Keystone currently in your bags). Our goal is to clean up the Group Finder while trying to minimize the inconvenience to ordinary players.

[FelPlagued 13]

See i love this idea, but i can already see people mad "Wow i dont have a mobile phone, or a phsyical authenticator, how dare you lock me out of making groups!?!??!"

[Baharok 234]

Its a step in the right direction in my opinion. I like it.

[Bobbis 208]

10 hours ago, FelPlagued said:

See i love this idea, but i can already see people mad "Wow i dont have a mobile phone, or a phsyical authenticator, how dare you lock me out of making groups!?!??!"

Yet another "do you guys not have phones?!" moment eh? 😛

[Lithari 194]

2 hours ago, Bobbis said:

Yet another "do you guys not have phones?!" moment eh? 😛

I don't....never needed one....i am a indoor type of dude.

[Arcling 877]

5 hours ago, Bobbis said:

Yet another "do you guys not have phones?!" moment eh? 😛

Yeah, just more hassle for players, also people might see other places being spammed even more. Bots/sellers might just spam other categories instead, or places like general and trade chat even more aggressively, adding optional custom filters to exclude certain words would've been an easier solution (like: "don't display titles containing WTS").

Edited September 3, 2021 by Arcling

[Bobbis 208]

43 minutes ago, Arcling said:

Yeah, just more hassle for players, also people might see other places being spammed even more. Bots/sellers might just spam other categories instead, or places like general and trade chat even more aggressively, adding optional custom filters to exclude certain words would've been an easier solution (like: "don't display titles containing WTS").

I don't see it being much of an issue, your solution is easier, to bypass. Anything where words are blocked, they just get the thesaurus out, or change to less salesy language. 

The solution they're proposing is probably the easiest with the least impact on the general population without doing the obvious, simplest, and probably best solution that they just won't do. Sort out their sodding CS team, have more GM's again actually monitoring things, and handing out the bans when things are seen and found, and providing better support. It won't happen because that involves higher costs.

[Arcling 877]

18 minutes ago, Bobbis said:

I don't see it being much of an issue, your solution is easier, to bypass. Anything where words are blocked, they just get the thesaurus out, or change to less salesy language. 

The solution they're proposing is probably the easiest with the least impact on the general population without doing the obvious, simplest, and probably best solution that they just won't do. Sort out their sodding CS team, have more GM's again actually monitoring things, and handing out the bans when things are seen and found, and providing better support. It won't happen because that involves higher costs.

It can be bypassed, but everyone could customize their own filters, so WTS and it's variations could have been manually put in by the player. Much harder for botters to find any universal solution that would display their advertisements for majority of players, besides there could have been some scripts implemented to avoid most common permutations to circumvent those filters (like being unable to use special signs such as "^","*" etc. in titles and descriptions). Agree about CS team, they should sort it out and start banning more. Although I'm afraid it's in some ways beneficial to them, after all sellers/botters also bring them some money, by using their services and buying some tokens. Obviously, they should keep banning them regardless.

Edited September 3, 2021 by Arcling

[Dafish 0]

16 hours ago, FelPlagued said:

See i love this idea, but i can already see people mad "Wow i dont have a mobile phone, or a phsyical authenticator, how dare you lock me out of making groups!?!??!"

Not true. they can still make groups  "you will still be able to post groups that will have descriptions auto-populated (e.g. based on raid name and difficulty selected in UI dropdowns, or derived from the Mythic Keystone currently in your bags)."

[lolblizzard 38]

only people that needed a special description were the seller and the elitists,and both of them have phones.. lets see how it turns out

[FelPlagued 13]

15 hours ago, Arcling said:

Yeah, just more hassle for players, also people might see other places being spammed even more. Bots/sellers might just spam other categories instead, or places like general and trade chat even more aggressively, adding optional custom filters to exclude certain words would've been an easier solution (like: "don't display titles containing WTS").

1. most of the wts are not bots, they are players. and so they will need to go through a lot more work, including if they type in /trade that only ever effects people in a major city, and on that one server, meaning they would need MANY accounts to try and advertise to all servers instead of just 1. also general chat really? 
2. other catergories, cool, people dont look at those as much.
And no, adding that filter would not work, because 
"Firenewts M+ group" would be banned.
Plus sellers would just change from WTS to W T S or W.T.S. or WWTTSS or to VVTS or WT5 or W+S or VV+5 like seriously
"letters wts are banned, selling drops to zero"

Edited September 4, 2021 by FelPlagued

[FelPlagued 13]

 

14 hours ago, Arcling said:

It can be bypassed, but everyone could customize their own filters, so WTS and it's variations could have been manually put in by the player. Much harder for botters to find any universal solution that would display their advertisements for majority of players, besides there could have been some scripts implemented to avoid most common permutations to circumvent those filters (like being unable to use special signs such as "^","*" etc. in titles and descriptions). Agree about CS team, they should sort it out and start banning more. Although I'm afraid it's in some ways beneficial to them, after all sellers/botters also bring them some money, by using their services and buying some tokens. Obviously, they should keep banning them regardless.

so you are asking every single player ever to ban every single possible combination that could look like "WTS" you serious?