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New teleport spells and old ability tuning hint at the possible return of the Mage Tower in Patch 9.1.5.

Note that Blizzard hasn't officially confirmed anything, and this post is purely based on datamining and speculation.

We speculate that some of the teleport spells added in Patch 9.1.5 Build 40078 might be related to Legion's Mage Tower.

In addition to the new spells, many Mage Tower boss abilities received tuning. For example, the Mage Tower challenge, where you must defeat Sigryn (The God-Queen's Fury) received the following changes/nerfs:

  • Ancestral Knowledge Ancestral Knowledge - Fel power courses through Runeseer Faljar's veins, shielding him from 560 308 damage, casting interruption, and all Crowd-Controlling effects.
  • Hurl Axe Hurl Axe physical school damage reduced from 73 to 40.
  • Runic Detonation Runic Detonation - The caster creates several runes on the ground that can be stamped out by running through them. Failure to stamp out a rune before it expires results in the player taking 336 185 Shadow damage.

While Blizzard may bring back the Mage Tower during Legion Timewalking in the forthcoming patch, chances are we won’t see any of the removed appearances that came with it. 

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I know it's an unpopular opinion with some that were around during Legion and got the appearances then, but if they kept the Mage Tower tuned for the current top gear for when Legion Timewalking comes up in the rotation, then the appearances should be obtainable. That keeps it at a personal skill level check rather than over gearing it, which from observation has been the primary complaint (on these forums at least), and is a fair concern. I also think that if they can make that work, they could potentially do so with other expansion Timewalkings.

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8 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

I know it's an unpopular opinion with some that were around during Legion and got the appearances then, but if they kept the Mage Tower tuned for the current top gear for when Legion Timewalking comes up in the rotation, then the appearances should be obtainable. That keeps it at a personal skill level check rather than over gearing it, which from observation has been the primary complaint (on these forums at least), and is a fair concern. I also think that if they can make that work, they could potentially do so with other expansion Timewalkings.

Nah, new rewards is exactly the way it should be done. I started playing Legion 5 months before BFA and only did MT on my DK, no complaints at all. I don't want people who got the Aritifact appearances on only 1 class, and many didn't even do all specs, to have a chance at obtaining them for all classes, fu'ck that. Legion Artifacts are no longer relevant and they are deactivated, we're done with them it's history now. Same as Elite sets and Gladiator mounts - you should've played when they were available and taken a shot at them.

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40 minutes ago, SidonisAntares said:

I know it's an unpopular opinion with some that were around during Legion and got the appearances then, but if they kept the Mage Tower tuned for the current top gear for when Legion Timewalking comes up in the rotation, then the appearances should be obtainable. That keeps it at a personal skill level check rather than over gearing it, which from observation has been the primary complaint (on these forums at least), and is a fair concern. I also think that if they can make that work, they could potentially do so with other expansion Timewalkings.

Let things be unique and let other people have things without whining about not having them yourself.

Scarab mount? Don't have it.

MoP challenge sets? Don't have em.

Atiesh? Don't have it.

You don't see me crying like a 6 year old.

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People who remember the rewards: OH YEAH, BRING IT ON BLIZZ, I CANNOT WAIT TO BECOME A BEARPIGMAN ON MA' DROOD!

People who remember the content: It's a proving grounds reskin.

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2 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

I know it's an unpopular opinion with some that were around during Legion and got the appearances then, but if they kept the Mage Tower tuned for the current top gear for when Legion Timewalking comes up in the rotation, then the appearances should be obtainable. That keeps it at a personal skill level check rather than over gearing it, which from observation has been the primary complaint (on these forums at least), and is a fair concern. I also think that if they can make that work, they could potentially do so with other expansion Timewalkings.

Keeping same skill check might be impossible. Balance has changed since then and we no longer have same spells/abilities as back then. No artifact powers, tier set bonus or those little things that empowered artifacts. I did mage tower back then, but wouldn't consider it a skill check, it was more like a gear check. At some point it wasn't doable, if fight lasted too long. Even with executing proper tactic, it required to have certain numbers, it eventually became doable over the course of expansion. Anyway, it wasn't anything great, not sure why people are missing it. Besides, they messed up the stat squish in this exp, making BfA content much stronger, I wouldn't trust them to balance this properly (could have been faceroll for some or way harder than it used to be). 😁

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1 hour ago, Arcling said:

Anyway, it wasn't anything great, not sure why people are missing it.

They're not missing it.

They want the things they can't get and that's the only reason they want them. They don't want the mage tower they want the mogs. If you just gave them the mog they'd go away and eat their ice cream in the corner and not care one iota about the mage tower.

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9 minutes ago, Prophet001 said:

They're not missing it.

They want the things they can't get and that's the only reason they want them. They don't want the mage tower they want the mogs. If you just gave them the mog they'd go away and eat their ice cream in the corner and not care one iota about the mage tower.

On this I agree, let's keep at least few things unique, plus I'm not a fan of rehashing previous content. For example, there are plenty of titles and mounts from "Ahead of the Curve" raids that I missed since I quit raiding, but I'm fine with it.

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1 hour ago, Arcling said:

Keeping same skill check might be impossible. Balance has changed since then and we no longer have same spells/abilities as back then. No artifact powers, tier set bonus or those little things that empowered artifacts. I did mage tower back then, but wouldn't consider it a skill check, it was more like a gear check. At some point it wasn't doable, if fight lasted too long. Even with executing proper tactic, it required to have certain numbers, it eventually became doable over the course of expansion. Anyway, it wasn't anything great, not sure why people are missing it. Besides, they messed up the stat squish in this exp, making BfA content much stronger, I wouldn't trust them to balance this properly (could have been faceroll for some or way harder than it used to be). 😁

Skill check as in if you couldn't match or outgear, it was difficult. And while I agree that the tuning might be difficult, the fact that they're nerfing certain components indicates that they're aware of how much artifact boosts and bonus abilities played a part, even if some of those have returned in SL as talents or runecarving powers.

I don't think they messed the stat squish as much as people think they did, a lot of Mythic Legion content remained unsoloable in BfA prior to pre-patch unless you had 9.3 gear, and post-squish people failed to take into account the level squish affecting what spells you were no longer able to resist (level 120 resisting boss level (113), versus level 50 resisting boss level (48), or even 120 vs 110 and 50 vs 45 for things like the magic debuff that caused you to start downing on Helya trash in HoV. First time I mog farmed HoV at 60, I once again no longer got hit by that magic debuff, just like I did before the level squish.

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24 minutes ago, Prophet001 said:

They're not missing it.

They want the things they can't get and that's the only reason they want them. They don't want the mage tower they want the mogs. If you just gave them the mog they'd go away and eat their ice cream in the corner and not care one iota about the mage tower.

I don't mind earning the mogs by being level squished to a relevant level, and/or the content being tuned to reflect the current game. I would just enjoy the chance to earn things I missed out on while I was busy with life. I'd even be fine with a re-skin of the mogs to a different color to keep them separate from the originals if it's that much of an issue to people, but regardless I'd like to be able to turn my Druid into some variant of Might of the Grizzlemaw when tanking.

And none of this affects whether or not I eat ice cream, and certainly not in a corner 😉

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12 minutes ago, Arcling said:

On this I agree, let's keep at least few things unique, plus I'm not a fan of rehashing previous content. For example, there are plenty of titles and mounts from "Ahead of the Curve" raids that I missed since I quit raiding, but I'm fine with it.

How about the missing pieces to HoV mogs on Mythic that leave you with incomplete sets because of how they were implemented?

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while they still may not bring back the old rewards for the mage tower with all the "fan service" they are doing atm i think they might but who knows

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4 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

How about the missing pieces to HoV mogs on Mythic that leave you with incomplete sets because of how they were implemented?

Halls of Valor? What is missing there?

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On 9/11/2021 at 11:25 AM, Znifler said:

This is great! I hope they add them back, as I've swapped mains since legion.

The complete lack of self awerness on the arrogance here. You should've done on all the classes you like back then, if you didn't, too bad.

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18 hours ago, BobTheHuman said:

The complete lack of self awerness on the arrogance here. You should've done on all the classes you like back then, if you didn't, too bad.

Oof. So hangry you are.

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On 9/13/2021 at 3:55 PM, BobTheHuman said:

Yeah, I knew you might be trolling.

I originally had a long reply, saying how utterly ****** you act online, but I figured - it wasn't worth it.

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