Arios016 7 Report post Posted June 12, 2014 Hey guys, Finally dusted off my demo spec this week for farm content and have been following the discussion in the other thread. Looking through my own logs compared with some other demo locks i noticed some interesting things. Specifically my doom dmg seems to be crazy low in comparison. I am currently using a reg WF blackblood as my guild does not have garrosh down yet. I do have a HWF KTT and was wondering whether that would be worth it for demo? Currently i am gemming for as much haste as I can get (i know secondary stats arent a huge thing) should i be running mostly mastery gems and be aiming for the 16k ish BP? Logs link http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mdZXxBYgL4Dhb1fP#type=damage-done&source=28 If you guys could take a look at malk specifically that would be awesome. IJ might be a decent look as well but my guild does the back off strat and I havnt had any luck convincing them to change yet >.< Armory link http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/hyjal/Achearon/simple Thanks for the help in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,983 Report post Posted June 12, 2014 Looking through logs now - will post what I see in just a few minutes. Wanted to tackle questions first. Don't use KTT. Pets do a considerable amount of damage and cannot proc Multistrike. You'll be getting less than the intended passive effect from the trinket, so it's a minor yet consequential DPS loss. Stick with PBI and WF BBoY (should be 575, which is plenty good enough). At 580 item level, you have enough stuff to bounce to the Haste cap you're good with. Since you're an Orc, no need to go for any of the Berserking breakpoints. 15.8k should be more than sufficient which is 2.8k less than you are at. Drop that and pick up some Mastery. Your upgrading scheme is a little confusing. Your weapon is only 574 when it should be 582 and should have been your first upgrade. Your weapon is THE MOST POWERFUL ITEM YOU HAVE by a long shot, even if it's not warforged. You double upgraded your bracers instead of your legs, which is understandable since you have HWF bracers and normal legs, but you should have instead saved your valor. You 4/4 upgraded a Hit/Crit ring which is the worst of 4 rings for Warlocks and left your BBoY at 559. When you get 1,000 valor, immediately jack your BBoY up to 575. Even if you get Garrosh this week, you have to actually SEE the trinket drop and WIN it. Upgrade BBoY and your weapon IMMEDIATELY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,983 Report post Posted June 12, 2014 Looking at Malkorok... 3 Soul Fires in Metamorphosis. This is the priority spell to use when you have procs up. You used ToC much more heavily on this fight than you should have. This was a considerable DPS loss. Metamorphosis uptime looks ok at 45%. You had INCREDIBLE BBoY trinket procs - just think what that coulda translated to if you upgraded it. 27% uptime is crazy good. This graph shows your damage against your procs: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mdZXxBYgL4Dhb1fP#type=damage-done&fight=37&source=28&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24115043519.0.0.Warlock%24false%24103958%5E0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24115043519.0.0.Warlock%24false%24146184%5E0%24Separate%24%23a04D8A%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24115043519.0.0.Warlock%24false%24146046%5E0%24Separate%24%23DF5353%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24115043519.0.0.Warlock%24false%24113861 First thing that I see is that you had a good period of time with BBoY up, Dark Soul up, AND Expanded Mind up but you weren't in Metamorphosis. This looks like a lack of planning on your part around 1:40 in the fight where you stayed in Metamorphosis with no procs up. You should have been out, building fury for the 2:00 mark when all of your procs would line up. Demonology has the capacity to do more damage when all procs line up in the middle of the fight than even in the opener because you have Imps built up and time to build DF. You wasted a HUGE opportunity that likely cost you 75k-100k DPS. You had every proc alive possible and stayed under 500k DPS. You captured everything 4:00 into the fight, which was good, so you just missed a huge window of opportunity. Diagnosis: poor management of Demonic Fury prior to 2:00 mark for big burst. Cure: make sure you track your DF and prepare for the 2:00, 4:00, 6:00, etc marks because Demo is all about windows of bursting. Diagnosis: poor utilization of Soul Fire while in Metamorphosis. Cure: use Soul Fire when you have procs up. I've had a Soul Fire hit for almost 1,400,000 damage. Trust me, it's worth it. Diagnosis: poor Doom damage Cure: upgrade BBoY. It'll make a HUGE difference. Upgrade weapon. It'll make a HUGE difference. You captured Haste procs at the start, but you missed a big opportunity at the 2:00 mark because you fudged up your DF. You also didn't capture any of the BBoY's between 0:40 and 2:00 of the fight which made this period your worst Doom damage. ALWAYS capture Doom at a 10 stack of BBoY. This is the separation between good and excellent Demos. Doom's damage is NOT to be underestimated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arios016 7 Report post Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the responses guys, IJ was a cluster and honestly i played very poorly there lots for me to work on next week. Not sure why the wand is showing as 574 i have it 4/4 upgraded... moot point though i managed to get a HWF one this week so that will be 4/4 next week regardless. The reason for my upgrade plan had been to get my destro gear all 4/4 i made the decision to switch to demo this week so my gear is lacking a bit on upgrades for some of those peices. Thanks for the analysis guys. Hmm interesting i will have to do a better job with my fury management for sure. Absolutely a few things for me to work on. I have a nasty habit of not casting SF in meta.... something i need to fix asap. I will post updated logs next week once I get a chance to try it out again or if i get a chance to do flex this weekend to do a try. Edited June 12, 2014 by Arios016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djargo 4 Report post Posted June 21, 2014 Do you guys use Imp swarm glyph or not? I feel like without it in the opener u are so starved which leads me to another question. How exactly do you do your opener, i really wanna make sure i got it right. Currently as a troll, i can reach 12,1k haste without loosing any mastery at all, should i sacrifice some mastery to reach a certain breakpoint. Is it worth the mastery loss? And as a last question, should you play as normal, or actually try to fish for 2p procs, too me it feels like too rng and waste of mc procs. ... Damn a ring from Thok would be nice to replace the ring i got from 1st protecters kill last year -.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,983 Report post Posted June 21, 2014 No Imp Swarm for me. I like steady flow of Demonic Fury. Opener is like I list in Demo guide. Mastery and Haste work really well together. Don't worry about 'sacrificing Mastery' as you build some Haste. If they're close, it's all good. I'm drunk right now. Any advice comes with a disclaimer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
