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Sylvanas 9.2 Fan Art and Reactions to a Possible Redemption

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The patch 9.2 reveal stream brought with it a bit of a surprise cameo (or did it?), as we seem to have gotten a glimpse of Sylvanas' new look after her re-ensouling, and two artist got right to work recreating it, with two very different dispositions. We also take a look at some comments related to her potential redemption arc and one frighteningly possible meme.

First off we have the more realistic attitude we're likely so see from her, as Valdihr (of Classic Journey fame) just went with recreating what we saw in the video:

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Meanwhile, Zullidan went more with how a lot of the community feels about Sylvanas, instead of how she might feel about herself:

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As the redemption arc theory/fear has been around for quite a while now, many players are all set for it, already calling out possible outcomes. There are plenty of standard ones like her becoming the new Arbiter or the new Jailer, but I though it's better to dig out the more entertaining ones (from this thread😞

Sylvanas before 9.2: Genocide.
Enslavement.
Wants to destroy the afterlife.
Betrays the Horde.

Sylvanas after 9.2: OOOPSIE WHOOPSIEE uwu - Albreth
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It's really convenient that frostmourne took her compassion, love, will to live and blue eyes. I don't know why it wanted to take her eyeball glow, maybe to power it's own fancy glowyness? - SirVanyel
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I've got a bet with a friend of mine that Blizz are going to put a Sylvanas statue in Stormwind after she sacrifices herself to save us at the end of her redemption arc, I'm genuinely hoping I lose - Volvegia
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A new city built on Teldrassil named after her - DaddyDanceParty
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You know, at this point Sylvanas dying (heroically or not) and ending up in Revendreth for some unspecified amount of time genuinely sounds like a decent idea to me. Sort of like what they did with Denathrius before they decided he was too cool a character to keep him on ice: implying that redeption is possible, but only somewhere very, very, very far down the line, so far that the players will not get to see it. This way she gets both the punishment for what she had done, and a hope of salvation she deserves since she - apparently - didn't fully control herself because of the whole "split soul" thing (I don't like this bit, but oh well, it's part of the story now). Plus, it removes her from the narrative for the foreseeable future so that we can finally move on to something else. - lucky_knot
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Uther: "I, too, was slain by Arthas and had my soul shattered by Frostmourne. I understand the pain you have felt that may have guided you to commit terrible acts. I will guide you to enlightenment, as I have been guided and so will find forgiveness within myself for what has become of my pupil."

Tyrande: "WHAT THE FUCK. You threw Arthas, the biggest bastard in our world in to Hell! SHE BURNED DOWN AN ENTIRE CITY, GENOCIDED MY PEOPLE ANS STARTED A WAR TO SERVE AN IMMORTAL ENTITY BENT ON REMAKING REALITY."

Sylvannas: "That's basically the same thing."

Tyrande: "NO ITS NOT!"

Uther: "I'm redeeming her anyway so we can have playable Dark Rangers next expansion."

Sylvannas: ?
 - bryroo

And finally, directly related to that last quote:

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Source: Milwen1337. (And in case you didn't get the reference.)

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13 minutes ago, Dejo93 said:

Danuser sucks

Really I have read all the hatred for so many devs during the history of WoW but I've never felt any animosity for any of them except Danuser. As you said, he just sucks. And it's not just that the story is bad. They do not acknowledge that much of the fanbase, including most of the prominent lore focused streamers and lore focused forums very much hate the direction they take. At least Ion and the devs realize they messed up; doesn't help they do it again in the same way but with Danuser it's not just cocky, it feels like he treats us as if we are all stupid for not appreciating their story. And it definitely feels like they are trying to wipe all past narrative and take full control of it instead of having any respect for the foundations of the story. I used to be super excited for a World Revamp but I dread the stories that each zone will tell under his direction.

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redeeming Sylvannas is like saying a drunk driver who killed someone isn't responsible cause they were drunk, and therefore not in control of their actions.  It's insulting to everyone.

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7 minutes ago, Calorat said:

redeeming Sylvannas is like saying a drunk driver who killed someone isn't responsible cause they were drunk, and therefore not in control of their actions.  It's insulting to everyone.

Kinda, a drunk driver chose to get drunk first, and give themselves the opportunity to drive home and cause the death. 

Sylvanus didn't choose death, or to lose (part of?) her soul to Frostmourne, but has the loss of control issues still.

Still crap writing on par with 90's vampire tv shows though

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2 minutes ago, Bobbis said:

Kinda, a drunk driver chose to get drunk first, and give themselves the opportunity to drive home and cause the death. 

Sylvanus didn't choose death, or to lose (part of?) her soul to Frostmourne, but has the loss of control issues still.

Still crap writing on par with 90's vampire tv shows though

Uther has made it clear that the fact that his soul was split did not in any way affect his ability to make decisions. Heck he was torn about what he did even before his soul was whole again and while what he did was not right, it is definitely understandable. Nothing Sylvanas has done is understandable for anyone with even the weakest moral compass.

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Imagine how useful a dark ranger would be if the Holy Legion (the even more evil twin of the Burning Legion) would attack Azeroth with their holy spaceships and world-destroying naarus. Would be pretty useful to redeem her in that case, although it might not make sense for a few patches just like it was kind of dumb with Illidan at first.

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15 minutes ago, Badadada said:

Imagine how useful a dark ranger would be if the Holy Legion (the even more evil twin of the Burning Legion) would attack Azeroth with their holy spaceships and world-destroying naarus. Would be pretty useful to redeem her in that case, although it might not make sense for a few patches just like it was kind of dumb with Illidan at first.

How so? Light has not shown to be weak to Death in any way. If anything, Light completely scarred an entire afterlife and could be used to subdue an Eternal. If you want to fight the Light, you need Void.

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4 hours ago, Calorat said:

redeeming Sylvannas is like saying a drunk driver who killed someone isn't responsible cause they were drunk, and therefore not in control of their actions.  It's insulting to everyone.

while i would dislike redeeming her, ones soul was torn apart without herself wanting it and the other one drank and drove on purpose

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4 hours ago, Nym85 said:

Uther has made it clear that the fact that his soul was split did not in any way affect his ability to make decisions. Heck he was torn about what he did even before his soul was whole again and while what he did was not right, it is definitely understandable. Nothing Sylvanas has done is understandable for anyone with even the weakest moral compass.

nah i dont think you can compare the two. sure uther soul got torn apart just like her soul but he didnt was turned into an undead and was forced to kill so many people. she was even forced to attack what little was left of her own race and all she could do was watching while her owne body just did what arthas demanded. that plus having everything good riped out of your soul isnt the worst excuse. i think its the combination of trauma and not having the good part of your soul that made her the way she was and know she probably will feel like *filtered* for what she did and with thrall kinda in charge she will get her redemtion i mean if we free anduin nobody will hold against him what he did while bieng controlled so why her when its kinda simmilar

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30 minutes ago, N3ilo said:

nah i dont think you can compare the two. sure uther soul got torn apart just like her soul but he didnt was turned into an undead and was forced to kill so many people. she was even forced to attack what little was left of her own race and all she could do was watching while her owne body just did what arthas demanded. that plus having everything good riped out of your soul isnt the worst excuse. i think its the combination of trauma and not having the good part of your soul that made her the way she was and know she probably will feel like *filtered* for what she did and with thrall kinda in charge she will get her redemtion i mean if we free anduin nobody will hold against him what he did while bieng controlled so why her when its kinda simmilar

But Uther specifically said it's not the "good" part of his soul. It's just part of his soul.

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1 hour ago, N3ilo said:

i think its the combination of trauma and not having the good part of your soul that made her the way she was and know she probably will feel like *filtered* for what she did and with thrall kinda in charge she will get her redemtion i mean if we free anduin nobody will hold against him what he did while bieng controlled so why her when its kinda simmilar

But Sylvanas regained her free will, yet she kept doing those horrible things and she chose to ally herself with Zovaal. Anduin is still fully mindcontrolled, he doesn't even speak much. So everything can't be blamed on "she just wasn't herself". If it's going to be any sort of redemption, then it's just going to be a copy-paste of Kerrigan's story from Starcraft, because it was the same reasoning.

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1 hour ago, Arcling said:

But Sylvanas regained her free will, yet she kept doing those horrible things and she chose to ally herself with Zovaal. Anduin is still fully mindcontrolled, he doesn't even speak much. So everything can't be blamed on "she just wasn't herself". If it's going to be any sort of redemption, then it's just going to be a copy-paste of Kerrigan's story from Starcraft, because it was the same reasoning.

for the biggest part of her story she did nothing but fighting to get arthas down and to protect her fellow undead its just the last few years someone at blizz got a little crazy with her story and that is a shame. but the most things she did why she is hated now can be explainet with a *filtered* ton of trauma and missing a part of your soul 

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3 hours ago, Nym85 said:

But Uther specifically said it's not the "good" part of his soul. It's just part of his soul.

true but we dont know witch part arthas took from her cause he was using her as a pupped plus missing any part of your soul just cant be that good

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Yeah, what Sylvanas did was bad, but was it "I can hear all the screams of my children begging me to save them but I'm going to let them all die to help out my sister in Ardenweald, what do you mean they're all going to be damned to the Maw?!" bad...? 🤔 *here's looking at you, Elune...

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How to make all of this right: Arthas comes back to Azeroth as ruler of the Forsaken, the rightful king of Lordaeron.

 

You want to do epic stuff? That's how you do epic stuff.

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10 hours ago, Bobbis said:

Kinda, a drunk driver chose to get drunk first, and give themselves the opportunity to drive home and cause the death. 

Sylvanus didn't choose death, or to lose (part of?) her soul to Frostmourne, but has the loss of control issues still.

Still crap writing on par with 90's vampire tv shows though

Hey hey hey. Buffy was good.

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Sylvanas per covenant zones:

Bastion - Uther makes her a junior Forsworn/returnee, new world quests as Devotion has its hands full.

Maldraxxus - you wanted to defend the awakened Dead?  If you mean it, stand your ground and defend all of Death's lands.  We know you know how to use a bow and sword.  You still remember how to use weapons... don't u...?  new questline teaching someone combat skills from tabula rasa.  and the plague/alchemy nerds teaching morals.

Ardenweald - you burned it, you fix it; new world quests re FINALLY acquiring enough blessing to grow a non sucky World Tree in the living lands. Give us more story for ALL the elves. Souls from the maw to re-architect (Whatsit)drassil. 

Revendreth - yeah, she got a lot of sinstone to figure out to read, if it's the same size as the other stones I'm sure the quests help find expendable magnifying lenses too.  all quests should gen anima.  Side effect, un-muck (heh, see what i did there) the nightwell/sunwell/eternity-well issues of elvenkind.  world quests involve dealing with Denathrius' legion punks.

heck, why not all of them.


 

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13 hours ago, Starym said:

Hey hey hey. Buffy was good.

Hah glad you got the reference, my wife and I are currently watching Angel, the spinoff from Buffy. Cheesy af at times but something to watch over lunch times. 

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