Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 Hi all, first time posting here. I've been tanking on a warrior since cata but i only tanked as OS in HC dragon soul after progression was finished and we were all over geared, never tanked for HC progression. I've also tanked progression for every single raid this expansion but only on normal. My guild is very soon going to be starting HC progression in SoO so I'm looking to try and improve my game and fix anything that's wrong so hopefully HC prog will go a little smoother, and also of course to better myself as a player. Here are logs from Immerseus to Spoils, I will also post Thok to Garrosh in my next post so you can see every fight, as I've no idea which fights are the best for analysis. http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7xqnDAagRj6dztyT#fight=3&type=auras Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2014 Thok to Garrosh http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2xdAFa7zPmrvTnhZ/ There logs were recorded by a Resto druid in my raid team, not myself, so I'm not sure how much this effects accuracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estarriol 167 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 Sorry for the delay. I will try to get to this tonight after my raid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2014 No worries mate no rush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2014 Hi, Thanks for the analysis, I will try and work on improving sblock uptime and reducing rage waste. I will also glyph incite instead of unending rage and see if helps me to improve my rage management. As for the Tail Tip, we are currently bringing alts to farm raids, so raid dps is a little low, the tail tip, along with strength flask and pre pot are all towards helping bring the avg raid dps up a little bit to compensate. Some vengeance cheesing also comes along with that. As for sblock uptime I'm sure that because I and my healers are much more gear for normal than we need to be I probably subconsciously slack and don't make as much effort on sblock as I should be. On a side not would there be any help or advice you could impart from watching videos of me tanking? This has been very helpful for the cd and rotation side of things but it's obviously hard to give positional and taunt/general gameplay advice just from reading logs. If so I do have multiple videos available if you want to see them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estarriol 167 Report post Posted July 10, 2014 I don't think Tail Tip is really giving you much at all in the way of DPS either. I think you'd get more out of Juggernaut's Focusing Crystal or the 535 Timeless Isle trinket. Yeah, I could probably give some more positional advice with some videos. I've noticed quite a lot recently that some tanks are exceedingly mechanically sound, but lack a clear and consistent understanding of positioning and situational awareness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2014 Hi, Sorry for the late reply, raid went on long last night, when I get home from work today I will link you some videos, they will be dual PoV videos as they were made for our guilds website but you can just skip through the resto Druids footage. Also do you think there is a way to work out exactly how much more dps the tail tip is accounting for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2014 Immerseus: Protectors: Norushen: Sha: Gala: Jugg: Shamen: Naz: Malk: Spoils: Thok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9EnEtUo-w Garrosh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWXhPVicI1k If you want to see Siege and Klaxxi just say, i've not gotten round to uploading yet And like I say just skip past the druids footage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Estarriol 167 Report post Posted July 13, 2014 I'm mostly going to be looking at tank swaps, positioning, and standing in fire. To that end, I'll be looking at Iron Juggernaut and Dark Shaman primarily. Iron Juggernaut: It looks like you're waiting until the last SBlk falls off before using the next charge. You don't have to do that, the charges stack. You seem to be standing in Borer Drill quite a bit. As long as you stay at max melee range from the boss, the drill won't hit you. 2:05 Tank swap: you taunt and swing the boss way around. Wait for the breath to go out, stand on top of your cotank, and taunt. Consistency in positioning protects your team from errant breaths and also helps to prevent the melee getting parried. When you're coming out of the Siege mode, make sure the boss is facing where you have it during Assault phases. One of your melee took a breath because your facing was off. This means that you likely won't be able to soak that last set of mines in the Siege phase, but that's okay. Your cotank should be getting those. Dark Shaman: Nevermind, this video was entirely druid PoV. Though I do like his Final Fantasy victory music. Thok: I'm noticing that you have a timer bar for SBlk to show its duration, but not one for SBar nor anything to show how much you have left. I might be missing it, but if not, I suggest getting one. Looks like Thok tank swaps are pretty clean. That's the sort of swap you want for every boss. Consistency may not be something that always has a massive effect but it always has some effect. 6:05, I spoke a bit soon. That one was less clean than I'd like. Quite a few of the other videos were pretty much exclusively from the druid's PoV. I'd really have liked to have seen Sha of Pride and Dark Shaman as those are particularly good at showcasing whether or not you're avoiding damage and positioning yourself well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gatecrasher 0 Report post Posted July 14, 2014 Thank you for the feedback, this reset I will get videos of sha and shamens to show you. In regards to sbar I do have an indicator for that, it's much smaller but the white text above my health bar to the right show vengeance, predicted sbar size, and when I use sbar the size of the current absorb is shown above . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites