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First off if you got your hopes up for an insightful analysis and a great guess by a complex computer learning process... it's not that kind of post. This is more of your "AIs do funny things" deals, but at least it is pretty damn funny.

While I'm not quite sure what AI software Noobelli used to generate the next 6 WoW expansions or what the parameters were (or if there even was any AI involved at all), I do like the way it's thinking and I honestly cannot decide which one I like better:


Now am I crazy or is "Legion Blacksmith" sounding good to anyone else? Legion Expansion would just be a ripoff though, and it seems the final one is just going back to original Vanilla?

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18 minutes ago, Devylknyght said:

Dominion and Eternal Conflict actually sound legit and not bad to me. lol.

The latter one is already in Diablo, sorry.

Unless we'll finally about to uncover conspiracy surrounding that Wirt's Third Leg Illidan found in WC3. Plenty of demons to slay there.

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14 minutes ago, Teufel said:

The latter one is already in Diablo, sorry.

Unless we'll finally about to uncover conspiracy surrounding that Wirt's Third Leg Illidan found in WC3. Plenty of demons to slay there.

It will be the excuse to introduce Ren'dorei and Shal'dorei DHs, just like Shadowlands was the premise for raising races that have joined the Horde and Alliance since WotLK as DKs

And I'm only half kidding, since Sargeras escaping his imprisonment is still an option for them to take.

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20 minutes ago, SidonisAntares said:

And I'm only half kidding, since Sargeras escaping his imprisonment is still an option for them to take.

Knowing Blizzard that's a given...

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1 hour ago, Devylknyght said:

Dominion and Eternal Conflict actually sound legit and not bad to me. lol.

StarCraft and Diablo crossover expansions NP! I mean we all know StarCraft and Warcraft are in the same universe...

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25 minutes ago, SidonisAntares said:

And I'm only half kidding, since Sargeras escaping his imprisonment is still an option for them to take.

Given that Light/Void conflict is up in the air with the Dragon stuff, I imagine Sargeras wouldn't be sitting this one out. The only question is in which capacity he'll enter that conflict.

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3 minutes ago, Starym said:

StarCraft and Diablo crossover expansions NP! I mean we all know StarCraft and Warcraft are in the same universe...

Didn't they state Azeroth is the only world not fallen to either Legion or the Old Gods at this point?

I have a hard time believing Legion would beat Protoss. Let alone everyone else. And you always have Kerrigan to fry Old Gods' butts... or whatever they have for those.

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2 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

It will be the excuse to introduce Ren'dorei and Shal'dorei DHs, just like Shadowlands was the premise for raising races that have joined the Horde and Alliance since WotLK as DKs

And I'm only half kidding, since Sargeras escaping his imprisonment is still an option for them to take.

'd rather have Broken and Fel orc DHs. WHich we already should have had.

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3 hours ago, Teufel said:

Didn't they state Azeroth is the only world not fallen to either Legion or the Old Gods at this point?

I have a hard time believing Legion would beat Protoss. Let alone everyone else. And you always have Kerrigan to fry Old Gods' butts... or whatever they have for those.

Where did they say that? If they did that's a pretty silly thing to say considering the size of a universe. Maybe they meant the local galaxy?

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3 hours ago, Teufel said:

Didn't they state Azeroth is the only world not fallen to either Legion or the Old Gods at this point?

I have a hard time believing Legion would beat Protoss. Let alone everyone else. And you always have Kerrigan to fry Old Gods' butts... or whatever they have for those.

They could always change it so some planets remain, for whatever reason Burning Legion never discovered them. If Azeroth could have hidden continents or islands, it's nothing surprising. There is also a case of planet of the Ethereals, it was shattered, but there are some remains of it, so it could be in a state similar to Outland.

But hey, Eternal Conflict in this case could work as a conflict between Light and Void, instead of Angels vs Demons.

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4 minutes ago, Starym said:

Where did they say that? If they did that's a pretty silly thing to say considering the size of a universe. Maybe they meant the local galaxy?

Final boss in Legion's Karazhan said something about Azeroth being their last conquest. I think it was mentioned somewhere else too.

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19 minutes ago, Starym said:

Where did they say that? If they did that's a pretty silly thing to say considering the size of a universe. Maybe they meant the local galaxy?

If memory serves, it was Illidan claiming that, so its his latest novel we're looking at.

Also, wiki adds that X'era confirmed Illidan's claim, only she spoke of even less unconquered worlds than Illidan did (Azeroth being "the only one that matters"). Since I personally don't remember her saying anything of sorts, I either overlooked it, or it also is the novel material. Alleria's, if I am to guess.

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Yep, X'era's claim is from "A Thousand Years of War".

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10 minutes ago, Arcling said:

But hey, Eternal Conflict in this case could work as a conflict between Light and Void, instead of Angels vs Demons.

I would honestly like an actual Heaven/Hell war (provided we're, as usual, caught in the crossfire), but those concepts do not exist in Warcraft and I don't see a crossover Diablo expansion.

Maybe it's just years playing a game series where demons are being bloodthirsty chaotic aliens (much like Legion) and angels being highly sophisticated androids (much like Titanic watchers) finally taking their toll and leaving a desire for simplicity, lol.

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20 minutes ago, Teufel said:

If memory serves, it was Illidan claiming that, so its his latest novel we're looking at.

Also, wiki adds that X'era confirmed Illidan's claim, only she spoke of even less unconquered worlds than Illidan did (Azeroth being "the only one that matters"). Since I personally don't remember her saying anything of sorts, I either overlooked it, or it also is the novel material. Alleria's, if I am to guess.

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Yep, X'era's claim is from "A Thousand Years of War".

The only one that matters is very different from the only one (especially since we know Azeroth is the most powerful and literally ALL cosmic forces want a piece). I'm guessing the intent was that like there's so few left or something, but in a whole UNIVERSE that's still a loooot of planets. Also how in the hell could Illidan even know something like that? Seriously I can't overstate how insane the sheer numbers we're talking about here are. Maybe he meant World Souls? That seems much more likely.

Anyway, I think it's incredibly stupid if that is indeed what is intended, because how exactly could the Legion NOT find Azeroth if it's the literal last planet standing?. But hey, doesn't really matter when it's the retcon writing team, even if it was the last one standing they'll just change it whenever they feel like it, not like canon or story matters anymore 😄

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25 minutes ago, Starym said:

The only one that matters is very different from the only one (especially since we know Azeroth is the most powerful and literally ALL cosmic forces want a piece). I'm guessing the intent was that like there's so few left or something, but in a whole UNIVERSE that's still a loooot of planets. Also how in the hell could Illidan even know something like that? Seriously I can't overstate how insane the sheer numbers we're talking about here are. Maybe he meant World Souls? That seems much more likely.

Anyway, I think it's incredibly stupid if that is indeed what is intended, because how exactly could the Legion NOT find Azeroth if it's the literal last planet standing?. But hey, doesn't really matter when it's the retcon writing team, even if it was the last one standing they'll just change it whenever they feel like it, not like canon or story matters anymore 😄

If The Great Dark Beyond is anything like our Universe, there are myriad of factors that need to come together to form a habitable planet, world soul or otherwise (think Star Augur demonstrating lifeless frozen planets in outer space). And even then the life must evolve enough to be of any threat to Legion's mission to care.

I wouldn't say it'd leave THAT many worlds, and Illidan had means to locate Nathreza and Madruum at the very least (need to reread the novel for something more concrete, maybe his knowledge comes from the intel he obtained in Nathreza's archives, which included Argus' location, his ultimate target.) 

Double-checked the wiki, Nathreza did held intel of more or less all words and races Legion has ever encountered.

Also, if memory serves, both Azeroth and Draenor are stated to be on the *filtered* ends of nowhere in TGDB, so it'd make some sense why Legion would have trouble following Velen once he fled to Draenor eventually, or Azeroth in general. I mean, they've had at least 25k years to conquer the Universe, and with their tech it's not implausible.

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8 hours ago, Nym85 said:

'd rather have Broken and Fel orc DHs. WHich we already should have had.

Source material for Broken and Fel Orc DHs? I'm having a hard time seeing the Illidari expanding beyond elves.

If you want to talk about something we should have already had, Spellbreakers.

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21 minutes ago, SidonisAntares said:

Source material for Broken and Fel Orc DHs? I'm having a hard time seeing the Illidari expanding beyond elves.

If you want to talk about something we should have already had, Spellbreakers.

I feel between DKs and DHs and they've pretty much covered the toolkit.

Also the best time to introduce some was WotLK, with Malygos running rampant, but DKs ate up the spotlight.

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7 hours ago, Teufel said:

I feel between DKs and DHs and they've pretty much covered the toolkit.

Also the best time to introduce some was WotLK, with Malygos running rampant, but DKs ate up the spotlight.

Yup, was just in the vein of thought that I was responding to, though if I recall correctly, there were Shal'dorei Spellbreakers as well, which leaves open the possibility to bring that around through the elves as well, should they decide to. My personal wish list though is for them to add a tank spec to Shaman, which tbh I'm surprised they didn't do in Legion. There were plenty of Shaman tanks in Vanilla, outside of raid content and Dire Maul onward, and the whole Ascendance talent for each existing spec makes it glaringly obvious that there's been no love for Earth.

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10 hours ago, SidonisAntares said:

Source material for Broken and Fel Orc DHs? I'm having a hard time seeing the Illidari expanding beyond elves.

If you want to talk about something we should have already had, Spellbreakers.

There are multiple Illidari fel orcs and Broken. They'd let them give the DH a second race option that also splits across the faction divide perfectly. They don't exist in lore but the lore of the Illidari was largely rewritten with the Illidan novel before Legion anyhow. They did have orc, broken, naga and even sporeling DHs in Hearthstone (and there is a murloc DH in Legion . . .)

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On 1/25/2022 at 10:09 AM, Nym85 said:

There are multiple Illidari fel orcs and Broken. They'd let them give the DH a second race option that also splits across the faction divide perfectly. They don't exist in lore but the lore of the Illidari was largely rewritten with the Illidan novel before Legion anyhow. They did have orc, broken, naga and even sporeling DHs in Hearthstone (and there is a murloc DH in Legion . . .)

Being a member of the Illidari faction and being trained as a Demon Hunter don't seem the same thing. Also, the Fel Orcs was Illidan using the remnants of the Draenor Orcs to create a cannon fodder army while making use of holding Magtheridon captive. The Broken is a split issue, the only ones still with the Illidari were offworld when Akama led the rebellion against Illidan, one would have to consider that being a finite resource, lorewise.

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