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Updates to Tirisfal Glades and Undercity in Patch 9.2.5

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In our latest post, we preview the changes to Undercity and Tirisfal Glades in Patch 9.2.5. This post contains story spoilers.

Highlights

  • The entrance to Undercity is closed off you can't enter it from the Throne Room as there is no elevator.
  • The green goo is gone and you no longer take damage when you enter the area. In the "Return to Lordaeron" questline, you help Calia clear blight from the zone. The whole zone was blighted since Battle for Azeroth and the intro scenario.
  • Dark Rangers on the rooftops are defending the city.

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Derek Proudmoore, Calia Menethil, Lilian Voss, and Dark Ranger Veolnara are chilling outside of a random wall outside of the Ruins of Lordaeron. They have formed the Desolate Council and will lead the Forsaken going forward.

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Some vendors from the Undercity can now be found outside of the Ruins of Lordaeron. It almost appears as if they were trying to rebuild the city. There's a guild vendor, stable master, refugees hanging around campfires, and more.

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The Undead and the Horde have taken back Brill in Patch 9.2.5. We have a new building being built by Forsaken Laborers.

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There is a new flight path in Brill. A lot of NPCs that were there during Cataclysm have returned. Brill has some assets from the Darkshore Warfront, like this tent.

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We recommend you to check out MrGM's latest video for more details.

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Using the actual castle istead of undercity would be a cool idiea this pallid lady and Derek as her champion feels familiar also stupid imo.

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It seems like Undercity is truly done for, which is somewhat sad to hear. It would be neat to build upon the old city on the surface, though. I just hope these "looks like they're rebuilding" assets and animations don't stay at this stage for 2-3 expansions.

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hopefully we get back the UNDERcity and not just some generic city.

i dont know how to feel about that the coucel that leads the forsaken is 2/3 brand new undeads with more ties to the alience then the horde but that maybe could be a sign for eliminating the borders all together. should we go into a reall war again i wont trust what these two say 

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1 hour ago, TyZone said:

It seems like Undercity is truly done for, which is somewhat sad to hear. It would be neat to build upon the old city on the surface, though. I just hope these "looks like they're rebuilding" assets and animations don't stay at this stage for 2-3 expansions.

It is still blighted underground, we only helped them to cleanse the surface. Same reason we won't see a new nigh elf capital on another tree. I think Lordaeron Keep will end up like Gnomeregan, part of it is cleansed and the rest will remain as it is. You could say this capital city got gnomed!

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2 hours ago, TyZone said:

It seems like Undercity is truly done for, which is somewhat sad to hear. It would be neat to build upon the old city on the surface, though. I just hope these "looks like they're rebuilding" assets and animations don't stay at this stage for 2-3 expansions.

Nah, the questline implies they'll go on with purifying the catacombs, but it'd take some time, so they remain of the surface for the moment.

Some time until the prepatch, I imagine.

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5 hours ago, Arcling said:

It is still blighted underground, we only helped them to cleanse the surface. Same reason we won't see a new nigh elf capital on another tree. I think Lordaeron Keep will end up like Gnomeregan, part of it is cleansed and the rest will remain as it is. You could say this capital city got gnomed!

Good one-liner! Man, I'm choked. I just want to head to the war quarter but get lost and wind up in the mage quarter instead. I guess they could make Brill the new capitol, or the surface castle. Just something worthy.

 

4 hours ago, Teufel said:

Nah, the questline implies they'll go on with purifying the catacombs, but it'd take some time, so they remain of the surface for the moment.

Some time until the prepatch, I imagine.

That's encouraging I suppose. I hope they build on that at some point.

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This whole thing is a mess and Calia is at the center of it.

"Hey random person who hasn't had anything to do with the Forsaken AT ALL and just popped up out of nowhere.... why don't you come lead with us? Want to?"

Like seriously? Seriously?

-_________-

How cooked is this stuff.

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19 hours ago, N3ilo said:

hopefully we get back the UNDERcity and not just some generic city.

i dont know how to feel about that the coucel that leads the forsaken is 2/3 brand new undeads with more ties to the alience then the horde but that maybe could be a sign for eliminating the borders all together. should we go into a reall war again i wont trust what these two say 

What's the issue here? You want an eternal conflict between horde and alliance? We are way past that, it's for the classic era, which you can still play. Now that we have cross faction playing, there is no reason there can't be cross faction leaders etc. Eventually there is no reason to have factions. Just unite them all. 

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How about a rebuilt undead city on the surface, and a radioactive dungeon in the underground part?

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1 hour ago, Znifler said:

What's the issue here? You want an eternal conflict between horde and alliance? We are way past that, it's for the classic era, which you can still play. Now that we have cross faction playing, there is no reason there can't be cross faction leaders etc. Eventually there is no reason to have factions. Just unite them all. 

I'mma have to throw rotten tomatoes at you homie.

Too many PVE kings that forget what WoW is made of. Too many blue names and happy happy peachy rosie bleh...

This is a war. We are at war and we will continue to be at war.

(plus there's like 100 MMOs without factions if that's what you want 😄 )

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19 minutes ago, Prophet001 said:

This is a war. We are at war and we will continue to be at war.

Then by this "logic" Forsaken and Blood Elves should have never joined the Horde, because they were both formerly Alliance and their old enemies from Second War. Old enemies can join forces too, especially when there are always bigger enemies to fight.

From gameplay perspective, factions were pretty much dead when only one was fully playable. This is why crossfaction was the only solution and they should expand this feature into guilds and so on. Also, WoW has always been primarily PvE game, PvP was just some additional content, it never received the same level of attention as PvE. Btw, we had merc mode for years now, because Horde was suffering from longer bg queues due to more players moving there. Sorry to break it to you, but you've probably killed a lot of Horde there thinking they were Alliance.

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1 hour ago, Prophet001 said:

I'mma have to throw rotten tomatoes at you homie.

Too many PVE kings that forget what WoW is made of. Too many blue names and happy happy peachy rosie bleh...

This is a war. We are at war and we will continue to be at war.

(plus there's like 100 MMOs without factions if that's what you want 😄 )

Again, for lore reasons. We are past war at this point in the story. We had our 4th war... and both factions are pretty much tired of this endless conflict. 

 

It's like saying we should keep having World War's because nations should never have diplomatic ties. Logic doesn't add up. 

 

Also PvP is still a thing sooooooo....

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2 minutes ago, Rhondis said:

Again, for lore reasons. We are past war at this point in the story. We had our 4th war... and both factions are pretty much tired of this endless conflict. 

 

It's like saying we should keep having World War's because nations should never have diplomatic ties. Logic doesn't add up. 

 

Also PvP is still a thing sooooooo....

100 MMOs out there without factions for you batman

peep one of those

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7 minutes ago, Prophet001 said:

100 MMOs out there without factions for you batman

peep one of those

Factions still exist. Just not the need for war.

 

Also there's PvP still. Please learn a new argument. 

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A city will be built on the surface and Worgens will get back their city as well. NE might take refuge on Gilneas as well. That seed from winter queen will be placed in dragon isles. That's why Ysera said she knows a place which is lost 

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5 hours ago, Znifler said:

What's the issue here? You want an eternal conflict between horde and alliance? We are way past that, it's for the classic era, which you can still play. Now that we have cross faction playing, there is no reason there can't be cross faction leaders etc. Eventually there is no reason to have factions. Just unite them all. 

oh no thats not what i mean. i hope they allow even more cross faction stuff so i can play the whole xpac with my horde guilde while leveling my gnome and not only play the endgame content together.

what i meant was that the councel has so many member that are just "recently" awoken as undead but to be honest after talking about that with my wife we coulndt think of any famouse undeads other then lillian. and my other point was if blizz changes course again and we have war in 3 xpacs again i woulndt trust these two to much to fight dor the horde but in the end the forsaken always worked more for there own intrest then for the horde

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2 hours ago, Prophet001 said:

100 MMOs out there without factions for you batman

peep one of those

and 100 MMOs out there with factions for you... maintaining the status quo for maintaining it is not usually the best move

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On 6/6/2022 at 4:58 PM, Prophet001 said:

I'mma have to throw rotten tomatoes at you homie.

Too many PVE kings that forget what WoW is made of. Too many blue names and happy happy peachy rosie bleh...

This is a war. We are at war and we will continue to be at war.

(plus there's like 100 MMOs without factions if that's what you want 😄 )

Times change, and you need to learn how to change with them. I've played since BC (partly end of vanilla), with breaks here and there ofc, and I really can't see why you want literally the same game, over 15 years. Without change. 

Why not play Vanilla then?

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13 minutes ago, Znifler said:

Times change, and you need to learn how to change with them. I've played since BC (partly end of vanilla), with breaks here and there ofc, and I really can't see why you want literally the same game, over 15 years. Without change. 

Why not play Vanilla then?

Acting like having factions is "the same game over 15 years" is a little nonsensical.

We've had mages for 15 years. Should we get rid of them too?

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4 hours ago, Prophet001 said:

Acting like having factions is "the same game over 15 years" is a little nonsensical.

We've had mages for 15 years. Should we get rid of them too?

You make very poor arguments, incredible really. 

Would you say, that mages are they same they were, as in vanilla? 🙂

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50 minutes ago, Znifler said:

You make very poor arguments, incredible really. 

Would you say, that mages are they same they were, as in vanilla? 🙂

Nor are factions.

Why do you have to try and be insulting though? Just be nice.

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On 6/20/2022 at 8:34 PM, Prophet001 said:

Nor are factions.

Why do you have to try and be insulting though? Just be nice.

I apologize for my behavior.

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