wow Dracthyr "Danger Zone" Video

[Starym 3,775]

 

In honor of the latest Soar racial ability nerf, here's a cool compilation of the Dracthyr flying around various places, set to the most perfect soundtrack ever. And in case you're not familiar with it, here's the original and the wiki page.

The decision to nerf the ability is not going over well at all, with almost everyone commenting on how it's a bad idea, and the reasoning given in the post wasn't exactly great either. Hopefully we can see the winged fellows get their speed back, as I'm sure they have a pretty big need for it.

[Dejo93 982]

[Borgoff33 92]

The fact that they never did this for DH is just stupid (flying with wings)

Edited August 1, 2022 by Borgoff33

[Dahaka99 46]

i think its fine prefer losing speed a little than having more min CD

imagine if Soar has 15 min CD 

[Arcling 871]

10 hours ago, Borgoff33 said:

The fact that they never did this for DH is just stupid (flying with wings)

I am on the opposite side, I hate this mobility creep. Both DHs and Dracthyr Evokers, some of this mobility basically allows them to ignore some mechanics in instances (also useful for soloing old stuff). That plus annoying escape from PvP, especially in free for all zones.

[Ragingwolf 286]

57 minutes ago, Arcling said:

I am on the opposite side, I hate this mobility creep. Both DHs and Dracthyr Evokers, some of this mobility basically allows them to ignore some mechanics in instances (also useful for soloing old stuff). That plus annoying escape from PvP, especially in free for all zones.

The only solution I can see feasible is if a Dracthyr has flagged themselves for PvP they can not fly away, could only use their wings for glide purposes to that of a DH.  But if that were the case they would also have to make where Druids could not shapeshift into their flightforms as well to make it fair on par for fair engagments of open world content via Warmode.

In a dungeon/raid setting, preferably older content, don't really care.  It's out dated content that no one goes into on a regular bases w/ the exception of xmog, mounts, and or achievments.

[Arcling 871]

1 hour ago, Ragingwolf said:

The only solution I can see feasible is if a Dracthyr has flagged themselves for PvP they can not fly away, could only use their wings for glide purposes to that of a DH.  But if that were the case they would also have to make where Druids could not shapeshift into their flightforms as well to make it fair on par for fair engagments of open world content via Warmode.

In a dungeon/raid setting, preferably older content, don't really care.  It's out dated content that no one goes into on a regular bases w/ the exception of xmog, mounts, and or achievments.

Those things are no less valid. You might not care, but many players do and this actually became a huge part of WoW gameplay. Farming old stuff is an important part of gameplay for many people (this includes former raiders!). Many actually do go there on a regular basis to get some transmog they like or other stuff. So yeah, it's annoying when DH can just jump/fly over something, while other classes can't solo something or have to do it the hard way. It just wasn't a well thought idea to put such mobile classes into a game where other classes have low to average mobility in comparison.

Jumping and gliding in PvP for DH was especially annoying if they were same faction, so in those open PvP areas they could just stay near border and land safely, making them friendly again, in case combat went wrong for them. In other situations, they can still escape combat more easily than other classes.

Edited August 1, 2022 by Arcling

[Ragingwolf 286]

5 hours ago, Arcling said:

Those things are no less valid. You might not care, but many players do and this actually became a huge part of WoW gameplay. Farming old stuff is an important part of gameplay for many people (this includes former raiders!). Many actually do go there on a regular basis to get some transmog they like or other stuff. So yeah, it's annoying when DH can just jump/fly over something, while other classes can't solo something or have to do it the hard way. It just wasn't a well thought idea to put such mobile classes into a game where other classes have low to average mobility in comparison.

Jumping and gliding in PvP for DH was especially annoying if they were same faction, so in those open PvP areas they could just stay near border and land safely, making them friendly again, in case combat went wrong for them. In other situations, they can still escape combat more easily than other classes.

So you are button mashing in disgust about content that is basically done solo because some classes can either skip or bypass certain features of a dungeon?  I could care less what they do in there it's not my business.  And it's not yours either.  Most classes in this game has a mobility or utility option to bypass select situations of old content the only exception I see is like the DK, Paladin, or Priest.  There are also a variety of potions at your disposal that you can use to increase movement speed and grant you stealth for an 'x' amount of time.  

As for open world PvP it's anything that goes; you either bide your time and wait for an opening to land your cc and go w/ your rotation or simply hang up the Warmode option and enter BG's instead.  Where there are no safe pads and players are force to do battle while either in an Arena or BG.

 

 

 

 

[Arcling 871]

43 minutes ago, Ragingwolf said:

So you are button mashing in disgust about content that is basically done solo because some classes can either skip or bypass certain features of a dungeon? 

That's an overstatement and that wasn't the point. The issue is, as mentioned before, mobility creep that doesn't really fit the game. Allowing to skip or abuse mechanics isn't a good design.

[Ragingwolf 286]

15 minutes ago, Arcling said:

That's an overstatement and that wasn't the point. The issue is, as mentioned before, mobility creep that doesn't really fit the game. Allowing to skip or abuse mechanics isn't a good design.

Again it sounds as if you are angry at players having fun on classes like these and do what they want on a dungeon/raid that is not the current expansion.  Let them have fun.  Let people enjoy the game on whatever class they so desire to play on.

[Arcling 871]

14 hours ago, Ragingwolf said:

Again it sounds as if you are angry at players having fun on classes like these and do what they want on a dungeon/raid that is not the current expansion.  Let them have fun.  Let people enjoy the game on whatever class they so desire to play on.

Not angry at players, the post was about poor balance. But mobility is just one of its many issues. It's impossible to accurately convey emotions through posts, but there was no anger directed at actual players. Frankly, there was no anger at all, even though the post might have left a different impression.

The point wasn't about "players having fun". You said you do not care about old content, so it doesn't matter whether its playable or whatever happens to it. Well, many players do (for example, quite recently there were issues with scaling in Legion content due to level squish, some bosses weren't soloable for a while), this way of playing the game is obviously important for a huge portion of player base. What's more, people actively doing current content like heroic and mythic raids are in minority. Understandable, since most players are in their 30s now (like me) or older, so more casual types of content become preferable.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Arcling