Improving DPS output as Destro

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Hi there


I'm looking for an advice to improve my DPS as destro. I think I don't execute the priority list correctly as I'm not high enough in dmg for my item level (581).


Link for AMR: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/565379e9-86c7-4008-ab17-22960e418b4f

Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/antonidas/L%C3%B6ckli/advanced

WoL: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5lantdj3j91265gd/

Warcraftlogs: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gC3qrtfJxYMZ9NRL


No need to check Protectors, I'm not really able to play affli and I don't have Gear to switch.


Personaly I think I don't use havoc enough.


Maybe change my opener rota? What I try for opener:


precast incinerate


2x conflag

incinerate till 2 backdraft left (mostly is works for me that I have about 20 ember)

then 2x CB


Generally I try to stack ember up to 30-35 then use CB without procc, and when I get a procc to use all embers.


In advance, thanks for help :)


LG Löckli

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Looking at IJ log-


Immolate uptime is low. 


Incinerate damage is higher than CB, that's a big red flag


Take a look at this graph: 





Link here: http://tinyurl.com/m7y3eml


While I don't see too many glaring problems, you ideally want to cast every CB inside of a proc with the exception being capping embers.


Speaking of capping embers, you did so twice, but not for very long 6 seconds at 40 and 4 seconds at 40. More than enough time to cast a cb and not waste the embers you're generating.


Your opener is actually off.


You're going




from 2-6 second time part you didn't do anything, at 6 seconds you continued by casting


DS (why here with this?)




You might say you're doing the opener listed, but your opener is pretty sloppy tbh.


Ideal opener should look like this:


Pre pot

Pre cast incinerate




Incinerate till 2 embers (regardless of stacks of backdraft)



DS at the start allows your immolate and all of your incinerates to aid in getting to 2 embers as soon as possible.





Little side note, is it possible for you to upload logs in English? Not really a big deal, I figured out what I needed to. Just would have made it easier for most of users here.

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Hey, thanks for your post smile.png


Maybe immolate is low because we don't dmg in p2, so only stand around. But I think generally it could be better, as I see by myself it falls off some times.


With the CB, thats what I thought, comparing to the other WL in raid, I mostly have about 5-10 CBs less, on same Incenerat casts. And thats where the DMG is missing.

So if I try to improve the capping, there would be about 2-3 CBs more in one fight.


You are right, at first bosses I didn't followed the right opener, I think I messed up the english names of the spells *blush*

I think Nazgrim was better there.


And sorry for the german logs, never thought about that biggrin.png

I hope you don't think I just want to justify myself, its more that my english ist not the best smile.png


Edit: What I saw what also maybe made differenc between me and specialy Lìssàndra I'm comparing to, is the casting of CB under 20%. And compared to him, the CD management of DS during fight.

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I think the only way he can upload in English is if he plays wow with the language set to English.

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And sorry for the german logs, never thought about that biggrin.png



I've had to learn a fair bit of German because of logs and WoW. I also just enjoy how Chaos Bolt is written in German. 

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I've had to learn a fair bit of German because of logs and WoW. I also just enjoy how Chaos Bolt is written in German. 




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Any advices about CB under 20% Recklessfear?

The decision and justification for Chaos Bolt vs Shadowburn under 20% is not worth the time it took me to write this sentence out.

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Any advices about CB under 20% Recklessfear?


There's a thread around here some where on all these nerds arguing about it :P


Easy answer: SB 


Hard answer: Lots of crit buffs? SB. Not so many crit buffs? CB. 


tbh just stick to SB really...

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There's a thread around here some where on all these nerds arguing about it tongue.png


Easy answer: SB 


Hard answer: Lots of crit buffs? SB. Not so many crit buffs? CB. 


tbh just stick to SB really...

Did you mean this? ;)

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