Demonology Warlock 6.2

[Guest Imapallywoot]

You mention in the section discussing set bonuses that you should just add another HoG cast with the T17 4-set and stack it to 3...as far as I can tell, the effect only stacks to 2 even with procs from the T16 4-set. The duration still refreshes, but the intensity doesn't change after the second stack is applied. If this is being remedied in 6.1, it will make it even more necessary to stack it as such, but even for the sake of maximizing uptime it's still the best thing to do. Just wanted to point this out or the sake of clarity.

[Guest senorpapel]

During the opener of an encounter, if you do not have full demonic fury, is it better to max demonic fury before meta(for demonbolt) , or just meta as soon as the main opener is finished to start doom ticking?

[Guest Failock]

These "guides" aren't really clear.

[Verdic 0]

These "guides" aren't really clear.

This feedback is not constructive; to make it constructive, please share what you specifically think is not clear, so that we can help make it clear for you.

[Guest Aregmnios]

I have been playing a Demo lock for sometime now and have come up with done suggestions, the first being a macro for corruption. /stopcasting /cast corruption, for the instances that your corruption need refresh your out of fury or just about to pop meta, I've been running into GCD issues as many of our talents share the same GCD. Two of those being Imp Swarm and Doomguard/Terrorguard. I've played with openers and have good results from prepoting/precasting soul fire or even demonbolt if I have enough fury, also maintaining all doors doom, corruption and debuff and demonbolt stacks rather than fury dumping. After analyzing several boss encounters the biggest problem with the demo rotation has been maintaining those uptimes. More to come I'm tired of typing on my phone.

[Guest Guest]

You're lying by saying it's been updated for 6.1.

It doesn't reflect the 6.1 changes yet so the guide must stay at 6.0.3 atm.

 

[Oltier 474]

You're lying by saying it's been updated for 6.1.

It doesn't reflect the 6.1 changes yet so the guide must stay at 6.0.3 atm.

Could you elaborate?

[Guest Ulthan]

Question about Grimoires. The current text says that Grimoire of Service is best for single target, and that Service and Synergy are tied for multi-target/AOE. Is Supremacy not in the running here?

 

Thanks for your time.

[Anja 0]

I would like to point out a minor error under the rotation section regarding the T17 4P bonus and its interaction with Hand of Gul'dan. It currently states :

" This drastically increases the uptime of the Hand of Gul'dan DoT with 2 or 3 stacks on your target."

 

While not a particularly egregious error, it should be changed to properly reflect that the DoT applied by Hand of Gul'dan will never stack to three. It should, rather, state that the duration of the two-stack DoT will be refreshed upon the third cast of Hand of Gul'dan.

 

It is not a major source of misinformation, but it was a point of confusion for someone this morning and I do feel like that the guide should reflect the most accurate information possible.

 

Thanks!

[wl42 0]

I have a question regarding Archimonde's Darkness and Dark Soul: Knowledge when using Demonic Servitude or Cataclysm.

Whats the mechanic behind that 2nd charge:

1) do both DS share a common 2min cooldown

2) or are there two indepandant cooldowns for each charge

3) or is the only one second charge per fight

And, more important, how do I use the second charge properly? I know I have to use the first on CD, but does this also hold true for the second DS or should I spare it for heorism/boss-mechanic only?

[Orthios 272]

The second charge works similar to how Hand of Guldan charges work, you start with 2 and when you use one it goes on cd, then when you use the second it has to wait until the first cd has finished to start working through it's cd.

[Damien 1,533]

One thing:

 

Corruption is extended when you cast Touch of Chaos while in Metamorphosis, so you will generally not have to refresh it manually. That said, if Corruption is about to drop and you have no reason to enter Metamorphosis, then you can refresh it manually. You do not lose ticks if you refresh it when it has 5.4 seconds remaining or less.

 

 

Is this still true when Demonbolt is specc'd?

According to the guide, refreshing Corruption manually would just occur from time to time but my tests yesterday yielded different results. I had to refresh it manually all the time. Am I doing something wrong?

With Demonbolt, you cast Touch of Chaos a lot less often, so that means more manual refreshes of Corruption.

 

 

I noticed that you say to always use Dark Soul when using Imp Swarm but I dont see that reflected in your "opening rotation" ... which one takes precedence?  Should I reserve IS until DS is sprung or should you incorporate DS into that opening rotation? Sorry if Im reading it wrong, but it did seem inconsistent.  Thanks for the great guide!

 

The opening rotation tells you to use Imp Swarm and than to activate Metamorphosis and use all your codlins. It's pretty clear, no?

 

As far as I can tell, Hand of Gul'dan doesn't stack past 2, even with T16 2-set procs. It will still refresh the duration, but the intensity doesn't stack past 2.

 

 

You mention in the section discussing set bonuses that you should just add another HoG cast with the T17 4-set and stack it to 3...as far as I can tell, the effect only stacks to 2 even with procs from the T16 4-set. The duration still refreshes, but the intensity doesn't change after the second stack is applied. If this is being remedied in 6.1, it will make it even more necessary to stack it as such, but even for the sake of maximizing uptime it's still the best thing to do. Just wanted to point this out or the sake of clarity.

I would like to point out a minor error under the rotation section regarding the T17 4P bonus and its interaction with Hand of Gul'dan. It currently states :

" This drastically increases the uptime of the Hand of Gul'dan DoT with 2 or 3 stacks on your target."

 

While not a particularly egregious error, it should be changed to properly reflect that the DoT applied by Hand of Gul'dan will never stack to three. It should, rather, state that the duration of the two-stack DoT will be refreshed upon the third cast of Hand of Gul'dan.

 

It is not a major source of misinformation, but it was a point of confusion for someone this morning and I do feel like that the guide should reflect the most accurate information possible.

 

Thanks!

Sorry about that, I thought I had removed all the erroneous mentions of 3 stacks a long time ago, but I guess this one slipped through

 

 

During the opener of an encounter, if you do not have full demonic fury, is it better to max demonic fury before meta(for demonbolt) , or just meta as soon as the main opener is finished to start doom ticking?

 

I believe that this question would be better asked in the Warlock section.

 

I have been playing a Demo lock for sometime now and have come up with done suggestions, the first being a macro for corruption. /stopcasting /cast corruption, for the instances that your corruption need refresh your out of fury or just about to pop meta, I've been running into GCD issues as many of our talents share the same GCD. Two of those being Imp Swarm and Doomguard/Terrorguard. I've played with openers and have good results from prepoting/precasting soul fire or even demonbolt if I have enough fury, also maintaining all doors doom, corruption and debuff and demonbolt stacks rather than fury dumping. After analyzing several boss encounters the biggest problem with the demo rotation has been maintaining those uptimes. More to come I'm tired of typing on my phone.

 

I don't understand why you want to use a macro to cast Corruption.

 

Question about Grimoires. The current text says that Grimoire of Service is best for single target, and that Service and Synergy are tied for multi-target/AOE. Is Supremacy not in the running here?

 

Thanks for your time.

 

Grimoire of Supremacy is indeed not in the running here

[Guest neoghoul]

i am not sure what to use for my alt...sandmans pouch lvl1 or grannoks lidless eye. what would you recommend?

http://www.wowhead.com/item=112320&bonus=525

http://www.wowhead.com/item=128220&bonus=0

[Guest Zereo]

I have a Question. Did you ever tested the dps of the imppet with wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Glyph_of_Demon_Training.

 

Single Target it should be above the Felguard/Wrathguard, but under the Doomguard and Terrorguard.

 

 

 

 

[Guest Kal]

Something I would find enormously helpful would be a numeric stat weighting suitable for use in e.g. Pawn.