wotlk-classic Over 167K Wrath Classic Accounts Suspended

[Staff 1,349]

Last month, Blizzard suspended 167,799 WoW accounts for cheating and exploitation.

Blizzard announced in a blue post they've taken action against more than 167K WoW accounts that were involved in cheating or exploits in Wrath Classic.

(Source)

To provide more transparency on the actions that get taken against exploitative accounts, here is a breakdown on the number of actions that have been taken over the course of the last month:

Total Exploitative WoW Account Actions Last Month: 167799

All of these actions are for cheating or exploitation which are primarily permanent bans or 6-month suspensions. This number does not include separate actions like character name or in-game language violations. We will continue to evolve our methods and act against these malicious accounts on a daily basis.

Thank you and we’ll see you in Azeroth.

-The WoW Classic Team

[Babel 39]

Ah, reminds me of the good old times in TBC classic, my guildmate got permabanned for farming Stratholme for the mount on his fully raid geared paladin, cause "cheating and exploitative actions and it was not how the game is supposed to be played". They actually wrote that part: "not how the game is supposed to be played".

I wonder how many of those cheating and exploitative accounts were really cheating and exploitative and how many of those were just people playing the game not how some Blizzard employee envisioned...

[Lithari 194]

24 minutes ago, Babel said:

Ah, reminds me of the good old times in TBC classic, my guildmate got permabanned for farming Stratholme for the mount on his fully raid geared paladin, cause "cheating and exploitative actions and it was not how the game is supposed to be played". They actually wrote that part: "not how the game is supposed to be played".

I wonder how many of those cheating and exploitative accounts were really cheating and exploitative and how many of those were just people playing the game not how some Blizzard employee envisioned...

In my experiences players tend to be unreliable, predictable and annoying, but when doing dungeons i tend to wait until i am max level and can solo it......its more faster and i don't need to rely on other players....if that is a bannable offense, then screw them.

If they want people to do content, i suggest they make those mounts drop more often....0.05% is not high enough, hell, even 10% is not high enough for me to try to get it, it has to be a 100% sure thing.

[Babel 39]

13 minutes ago, Lithari said:

if that is a bannable offense, then screw them.

Frankly, in WoW you can get banned for anything. My husband got 6 months ban for fishing. They insisted that he was using some 3rd party bot software, cause he was fishing for 18 hours straight and they had evidence. He broke his leg at the knee, had a plaster cast from the tips of his toes all the way to his groin, the pain meds were doing squat and he couldn't sleep, so he fished on one monitor and bingewatched some show on the other. Upon requesting a proof of said evidence they wrote that they didn't need to and to be glad it's not a permaban. *shrug*

[TheRagingwolf 202]

10 hours ago, Babel said:

Ah, reminds me of the good old times in TBC classic, my guildmate got permabanned for farming Stratholme for the mount on his fully raid geared paladin, cause "cheating and exploitative actions and it was not how the game is supposed to be played". They actually wrote that part: "not how the game is supposed to be played".

I wonder how many of those cheating and exploitative accounts were really cheating and exploitative and how many of those were just people playing the game not how some Blizzard employee envisioned...

I'm guessing zero as the methods for tracking actions in-game have evolved since BC. Sounds like you're just bitter that your friend got busted (likely for actually cheating and not just farming a dungeon which has been common in WoW for a long time). Might be time to grow up.

Edited June 11, 2023 by TheRagingwolf

[Babel 39]

2 hours ago, TheRagingwolf said:

I'm guessing zero as the methods for tracking actions in-game have evolved since BC. Sounds like you're just bitter that your friend got busted (likely for actually cheating and not just farming a dungeon which has been common in WoW for a long time). Might be time to grow up.

Not like they wrote him what he was banned for, right? Also, not like he was live streaming those runs. And as per usual, they couldn't provide any evidence. Also, Blizzard has absolutely never done false positive bans, righ? RIGHT? *cough*my inactive for 11 years at the time trial account for gold selling*cough* All you have to do is look at their forums. They even added that nice tidbit to the message that the banning decision is final and cannot be appealed, and even if you do appeal it will not be taken into consideration and a temporary ban will be turned into a permanent one.

Funny you would mention that they have methods for tracking actions in-game while in every ticket or report I have ever submited I got "we do not have any means of tracking said action" or "the game does not create logs of such things" answer. There wouldn't be a bot problem if they did. The many times I had to repurchase that damned red drake from Wyrmrest Accord... Lets also not forget the mysterious case of disappearing Tyrael Charger.

Looks like I'm not the one who needs to do growing up.

Edit: found it

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/paladins-being-banned-for-farming-stratholme-en-masse/1100933

Edited June 11, 2023 by Babel

[RumorPia 0]

"cause he was fishing for 18 hours straight "

Heck I remember when Alterac Valley would run for 32 hours. I wonder how the sensitive folks at Blizz would treat that today.

[Prophet001 543]

Nice to see all these botters get banned.

[TheRagingwolf 202]

18 hours ago, Babel said:

Not like they wrote him what he was banned for, right? Also, not like he was live streaming those runs. And as per usual, they couldn't provide any evidence. Also, Blizzard has absolutely never done false positive bans, righ? RIGHT? *cough*my inactive for 11 years at the time trial account for gold selling*cough* All you have to do is look at their forums. They even added that nice tidbit to the message that the banning decision is final and cannot be appealed, and even if you do appeal it will not be taken into consideration and a temporary ban will be turned into a permanent one.

Funny you would mention that they have methods for tracking actions in-game while in every ticket or report I have ever submited I got "we do not have any means of tracking said action" or "the game does not create logs of such things" answer. There wouldn't be a bot problem if they did. The many times I had to repurchase that damned red drake from Wyrmrest Accord... Lets also not forget the mysterious case of disappearing Tyrael Charger.

Looks like I'm not the one who needs to do growing up.

Edit: found it

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/paladins-being-banned-for-farming-stratholme-en-masse/1100933

As for Strat. that's a way back problem.

Regarding tracking actions in-game, if Blizz were to make it public the means they use to track, do you think botters and hackers would just ignore those means? No. They would take advantage of the information. Blizz isn't going to tell you what they are seeing on the back-end or how they see it.

Ultimately, your post is a massive rant that comes as someone who got caught and is still mad about it. Why keep going? Why keep buying the game and creating new accounts (which is a violation of the ToS if you have already been banned on another account)? Obviously, you don't care about rules and just want to do what you please with zero consequence.

So, yes, you need to grow up.

[Babel 39]

20 hours ago, TheRagingwolf said:

Ultimately, your post is a massive rant that comes as someone who got caught and is still mad about it. Why keep going? Why keep buying the game and creating new accounts (which is a violation of the ToS if you have already been banned on another account)? Obviously, you don't care about rules and just want to do what you please with zero consequence.

Oh, I see what your problem is. You can't understand what you read so you try to build your own narrative.

"As for Strat. that's a way back problem." 2021 is way back for you? That happened in TBC Classic, and that's what I wrote about, and wondered how much of a repeated situation was the current banwave in WotLK Classic. Whether legitimate players got banned for regular gameplay because cheating and exploitative actions.

It seems you also lack some basic knowledge how a trial account worked all those years ago. Don't know about now, but way back you could make a trial account that was assigned to your main one, and you can check when was the last activity on said account. Mine says last played 2010. The trial account got banned in 2020 for gold selling. Do you also have cause and consequence problems? Do I need to explain what is wrong with this picture? Because I double Picard facepalmed sooo hard...

My trial account got unbanned, but I had to explain to them how it was impossible for an account that has been inactive since 2010, which they have a record of, to sell gold in 2020. Shows just how competent they are. The Pala guildmate got unbanned, but it took weeks and, according to him, a lawyer. Guess they didn't have any evidence afterall. My husband just decided "#%^&@ it" and stopped playing whatsoever, especially with their threats of permaban if you try to appeal. It's not me who wants to do what I please with zero consequence, it's Blizzard, and they mostly get away with it.

Edited June 13, 2023 by Babel

[TheRagingwolf 202]

2 hours ago, Babel said:

Oh, I see what your problem is. You can't understand what you read so you try to build your own narrative.

"As for Strat. that's a way back problem." 2021 is way back for you? That happened in TBC Classic, and that's what I wrote about, and wondered how much of a repeated situation was the current banwave in WotLK Classic. Whether legitimate players got banned for regular gameplay because cheating and exploitative actions.

It seems you also lack some basic knowledge how a trial account worked all those years ago. Don't know about now, but way back you could make a trial account that was assigned to your main one, and you can check when was the last activity on said account. Mine says last played 2010. The trial account got banned in 2020 for gold selling. Do you also have cause and consequence problems? Do I need to explain what is wrong with this picture? Because I double Picard facepalmed sooo hard...

My trial account got unbanned, but I had to explain to them how it was impossible for an account that has been inactive since 2010, which they have a record of, to sell gold in 2020. Shows just how competent they are. The Pala guildmate got unbanned, but it took weeks and, according to him, a lawyer. Guess they didn't have any evidence afterall. My husband just decided "#%^&@ it" and stopped playing whatsoever, especially with their threats of permaban if you try to appeal. It's not me who wants to do what I please with zero consequence, it's Blizzard, and they mostly get away with it.

LMAO. Right. Blizzard is far from perfect, but straight up banning people for playing the game makes zero sense.

As for your "friend", if it took a lawyer, which is bull, then the case will be publicly viewable, even if there was a settlement. Blizzard has absolute authority over their product and as players, we have next to no rights when it comes to that product. If Blizzard deems a breech of ToS has occurred, they are well within their rights to take whatever steps they deem necessary, and are within the stated remedies within the ToS, to remedy the situation. I don't doubt there are attorneys out there willing to take someone's money on a pointless case, but to expect any relief as a result of that representation is beyond wishful thinking. The system does not work that way.

I'm looking through your posts and it seems everyone you know, including yourself, have received these random bans. Either you are all very unlucky, or you're all botters and cheaters. One seems far more likely than the other. Of course, there is also the possibility that you are just a Blizzard hater and you're trolling because it makes you feel good.

I've farmed ore for hours on end, fished and fished and fished, ran countless dungeons on repeat for mounts and not once, not a single time have I ever even received an email from Blizz that what I was doing came close to cheating or botting. Farming is a huge part of the game and the genre. Blizz is well aware of this as are all mmorpg devs. So, I don't buy that at all.

This really made me laugh by the way:

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Blizzard has absolutely never done false positive bans, righ? RIGHT? *cough*my inactive for 11 years at the time trial account for gold selling*cough*

Yeah, that happened.

[Babel 39]

22 hours ago, TheRagingwolf said:

As for your "friend", if it took a lawyer, which is bull, then the case will be publicly viewable, even if there was a settlement. Blizzard has absolute authority over their product and as players, we have next to no rights when it comes to that product. If Blizzard deems a breech of ToS has occurred, they are well within their rights to take whatever steps they deem necessary, and are within the stated remedies within the ToS, to remedy the situation. I don't doubt there are attorneys out there willing to take someone's money on a pointless case, but to expect any relief as a result of that representation is beyond wishful thinking. The system does not work that way.

Well, seems like you do have cause and consequence problem. He took a lawyer because he is a streamer, which I wrote about. Blizzard baselessly banning him for violation of ToS caused a libel problem and encroached on his livelihood, which is a big No-No, especially for a streamer. When faced with legal representation they suddenly had no evidence that a breech of ToS has occurred, which is the exact opposite of what they wrote to him. What does that tell you? Do I need to continue? Do you have a critical thinking problem too?

22 hours ago, TheRagingwolf said:

I'm looking through your posts and it seems everyone you know, including yourself, have received these random bans. Either you are all very unlucky, or you're all botters and cheaters. One seems far more likely than the other. Of course, there is also the possibility that you are just a Blizzard hater and you're trolling because it makes you feel good.

Everyone I know... You think I only know 2 people? Because out of everyone I know just those two, and my freaking trial account, got banned. Not my main one, just my trial. Google it dearie, look at what they're baselessly banning people for, there is a lot. They even thretened people with bans for missing twitch drops. Prove yourself wrong, because me? I'm done with you. You're just doubling down now.

[TheRagingwolf 202]

On 6/14/2023 at 8:59 AM, Babel said:

Well, seems like you do have cause and consequence problem. He took a lawyer because he is a streamer, which I wrote about. Blizzard baselessly banning him for violation of ToS caused a libel problem and encroached on his livelihood, which is a big No-No, especially for a streamer. When faced with legal representation they suddenly had no evidence that a breech of ToS has occurred, which is the exact opposite of what they wrote to him. What does that tell you? Do I need to continue? Do you have a critical thinking problem too?

Everyone I know... You think I only know 2 people? Because out of everyone I know just those two, and my freaking trial account, got banned. Not my main one, just my trial. Google it dearie, look at what they're baselessly banning people for, there is a lot. They even thretened people with bans for missing twitch drops. Prove yourself wrong, because me? I'm done with you. You're just doubling down now.

You're so full of it I can smell you from here. Tell your lies but it doesn't change anything. You and your friends broke the rules and don't like the consequences. It's also hilarious how you keep adding more to the story just to try and justify what any of you have done, especially when you started with "we wuz banned fur nuthin". Grow up.

For a comparable example, since you seem to feel like anecdotal evidence is viable, I have had two WoW accounts since 2008, farmed like crazy with toons on both (mats, mounts, pets, etc) and not once was I ever banned or suspended. Additionally, all the people I have ever played with since 2008, real-life and in-game friends, have had the same experience as me. So, strictly speaking anecdotally, you are a cheat, your friends are cheats, and you need to accept the consequences of your actions.

From any perspective but your own, it certainly appears you and your friends are the cause of all of your consequences.