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[Guardian] Tier 17 Tips and Tricks

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This thread is for Guardian druid tips, tricks, and discussions in how to best handle the various boss fights throughout Tier 17 including Highmaul and Blackrock Foundry. Feel free to contribute or discuss anything encounter-specific you find from exceptional talent choices to ways to take advantage of class mechanics. 

 

Highmaul

-->Kargath Bladefist

-->The Butcher

-->Tectus

-->Brackenspore

-->Ko'ragh

-->Twin Ogron

-->Imperator Mar'gok

 

Blackrock Foundry

-->Gruul the Subjugated

-->Oregorger

-->Blast Furnace

-->Hans'gar and Franzok

-->Flamebender Ka'graz

-->Kromog

-->Beastlord Darmac

-->Operator Thogar

-->Iron Maidens

-->Blackhand

 

 

 

Highmaul

 

Kargath Bladefist

 

 

The Butcher

 

 

Tectus

 

 

Brackenspore

 

 

Ko'ragh

 

 

Twin Ogron

 

 

Imperator Mar'gok

 

 

Blackrock Foundry

 

Gruul the Subjugated

 

 

Oregorger

 

 

Blast Furnace

 

 

Hans'gar and Franzok

 

 

Flamebender Ka'graz

 

 

Kromog

 

 

Beastlord Darmac

 

 

Operator Thogar

 

 

Iron Maidens

 

 

Blackhand

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Oregorger -

Phase 1 - when off-tanking (Acid torrent) Glyph Survival Instincts (SI) and, always maintaining Pulverize, use Barkskin > SI > SI > Barkskin for the 4 Torrents you may soak. The cooldowns will be back up in time for when you return to Phase 1.

Phase 2 - Use a glyphed Stampeding Roar to help your raid move around quickly.

 

Flamebender -

Glyph SI again so that you can do Barkskin > SI > SI for breaths. 

 

Kromog

Use Displacer Beast (tier 1 talent) to avoid falling damage. Again, Glyphed SI is amazing for soaking Slam damage - you can't get distance quickly like a Monk but you have lots of cooldowns to just reduce it that way. Smart use of Frenzied Regen after big hits and high Resolve will help your healers. 

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Oregorger -

Phase 1 - when off-tanking (Acid torrent) Glyph Survival Instincts (SI) and, always maintaining Pulverize, use Barkskin > SI > SI > Barkskin for the 4 Torrents you may soak. The cooldowns will be back up in time for when you return to Phase 1.

Phase 2 - Use a glyphed Stampeding Roar to help your raid move around quickly.

 

 I'd personally find BF better than Pulverize on this fight.

 

Considering a 4 Torrent rotation

 

With Pulverize as level 100 talent:

 

 You'll soak 20% + 15% for each barskin + Pulverize combo and 50% + 15% for each SI + Pulverize combo 

 

With Bristling Fur as level 100 talent:

 

 You'll soak 40% + 20% for each Bristling Fur + barskin combo and 50% for each SI

 

You'll soak less during the second and third Torrent but the close to double during 1st and 4th.

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Disclaimer:  This is what I have found works best for me.

 

N/H BRF

 

Gruul:  Strats may vary, however always make sure to have a CD available for each Inferno Slice.  If your group is making good use of externals, Pulverize or Guardian of Elune make this fight much less spikey.  Bristling Fur is a good alternative if you specifically are having a hard time surviving the Inferno Slices.

Note: Dodging his autos (either through base Savage Defense or through Guardian of Elune) causes you to not receive a stack of Overwhelming Blows.  His autos are also very easy to predict.  Personally I love having Guardian of Elune for this fight on Normal and Heroic.

 

Oregorger:  I suggest taking Bristling Fur (especially after 6.1).  Save BF and SI for each Acid Torrent.  You should easily have these available to alternate soaking every Acid Torrent.  Stampeding Roar (glyphed) can really help out your raid during the "Rolling" phase.

 

Blast Furnace:  Pulverize currently trumps the other two talents for this fight.  Bristling Fur may be viable come 6.1 to soak the Blasts from the furnace.  When switching from Phase 1 to Phase 2, Bellows Operators almost always start with their frontal cone.  Be ready to tank this and have Savage Defense ready for when they finish... well, bellowing.  Typhoon Security Guards out of their guard mechanic.  Interrupt Cauterize Wounds.  Saving Berserk for where your group has trouble with AoE may help.  

 

Hans'gar and Franzok:  Due to my raid's externals needing to be used on our other tank, I prefer Bristling Fur.  BF will most likely be the go to talent for this tier come 6.1 as well.  Whoever is tanking Hans'gar ~85%, Franzok ~55%, and Hans'gar ~25% will be picked up.  Currently that tank is unable to cast (this is being changed come 6.1).  The opposite of above will "cast" Crippling Suplex.  BF/SI/BS this to avoid being 1 shot.  Save stampeding roar for when your raid has trouble with the "Stampers".  Always avoid the jumps that cause you to take increased phys damage.

 

Flamebender Ka'graz:  Imo, Pulverize or BF is viable here.  The breaths from the cinderwolves almost requires a defensive CD.  I prefer BF for added control.  Nature's Vigil is also a decent talent choice on this fight.  Make sure the wolf's breath is not facing anyone.  I suggest thrashing and getting some aggro on both wolves if you are tanking the second wolf because he will immediately run after his highest threat upon overheating (hope it's you!).

 

Kromog:  Nature's Vigil is wonderful on this fight as well because most damage will be between you and your tank buddy.  Displacer beast allows you to ignore the thundering blows mechanic (I suggest you take the time of him casting the hands to get to 100 Rage so that you can FR twice before needing to Displacer Beast the fall damage).  Biggest issue is surviving slams (if you are having problems surviving slams take BF) and sustaining through his high tank damage.  If your group is having problems DPSing the hands quickly enough, saving Berserk for this phase may be necessary.  

 

Beastlord Darmac:  Not a tank intensive fight.  Thrash extra Heavy Spears when you don't have aggro.  Pulverize is the current best option on this fight.

 

Operator Thogar:  Glyph of Stampeding Roar is a must for this fight.  Keep Flamemenders interrupted.  

 

Iron Maidens:  DISCLAIMER: My raid originally had an issue with Marak's AoE damage post 20%.  I used Guardian of Elune because you can have an almost 80% uptime for it (because she autos infrequently) and it causes your raid to take no damage at all.  Otherwise, Pulverize is the go-to talent here.  Berserk makes your damage look silly on this fight.  Keep lacerate up on all 3 when possible.

Edited by Moose67

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