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Guest whitherwhy

Hey Srey, what are your thoughts on the full serpent build floating around the nexus right now? It seems very popular according to HotsLogs

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Guest Kroshak

Hey Srey, what are your thoughts on the full serpent build floating around the nexus right now? It seems very popular according to HotsLogs

It became popular before its nerf, the reason its even popular right now, at least i hope people choose this build because of what im going to say and not because of the bee hive mind,  is because you can target the healing instead of the smart heal, before the bouncing on the serpent was healing the target so i think they nerfed that, they removed, this build is little more round up, with at least more utility with the fact that you can blind 4 people,  prefer the slow on the lvl 13 instead of the damage but thats personal.

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This is a reply to the Serpent Build comments:

 

I feel that the currently listed build does everything that the Serpent Build does but better. More damage, more healing. I don't see a good reason to ever go Serpent Build.

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Guest Fey

Quick reference, talent build and the descriptions to the talent build are all over the place right now ^^

 

QR has Healing with damage hybrid build: (1) Conjurer's Pursuit, (2) Mass Vortex, (3) Lightning Serpent, (4) Jug of 1000 Cups, (5) Surging Winds, (6) Safety Sprint, (7) Kung Fu Hustle.

 

The talent build section shows Lightning Serpent and Cleanse as recommended, but the description recommends Lightning Serpent and The Good Stuff, Safety Sprint is at the same time recommended and not recommended, etc. 

 

I guess the tree was changed and the highlighted icons are not updated?

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Quick reference, talent build and the descriptions to the talent build are all over the place right now ^^

 

QR has Healing with damage hybrid build: (1) Conjurer's Pursuit, (2) Mass Vortex, (3) Lightning Serpent, (4) Jug of 1000 Cups, (5) Surging Winds, (6) Safety Sprint, (7) Kung Fu Hustle.

 

The talent build section shows Lightning Serpent and Cleanse as recommended, but the description recommends Lightning Serpent and The Good Stuff, Safety Sprint is at the same time recommended and not recommended, etc. 

 

I guess the tree was changed and the highlighted icons are not updated?

 

Thank you for pointing this out, I will fix it right away.

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Guest legobil

Hi!

I'm curious, mechanic wise, how temporary buffs, like Surging Winds, works with channeled abilities, such as Jug of 1,000 Cups? Say I have 4 stacks Surging Winds with 3 seconds left and I use Jug of 1,000 Cups (channelling 6 seconds), does the spell benefit it's full duration from Surging Winds or does it lose power after the stacks run out?

Cheers!

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Guest ElNino
On 8/28/2016 at 5:35 AM, Guest Soaa said:

Is Li Li a good pick up at high ranks (diamond+)?

According to hotslogs, she has a winrate over 50% in diamond and master, so yes

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On 8/16/2016 at 0:19 AM, Guest legobil said:

Hi!

I'm curious, mechanic wise, how temporary buffs, like Surging Winds, works with channeled abilities, such as Jug of 1,000 Cups? Say I have 4 stacks Surging Winds with 3 seconds left and I use Jug of 1,000 Cups (channelling 6 seconds), does the spell benefit it's full duration from Surging Winds or does it lose power after the stacks run out?

Cheers!

Surging WindsSurging Winds causes an Ability Power buff for 8 seconds. How this interacts with her different Abilities depends on the mechanics of each Ability. For Jug of 1,000 CupsJug of 1,000 Cups, each brew tossed from it is "cast" and modified individually. This means that if you cast Jug of 1000 Cups (6 second channel,) with only 3 seconds of Surging Winds buff left, only half of the brews tossed will be buffed. Let us look at another Ability. Cloud SerpentCloud Serpent is cast only once, and then persists for 8 seconds. The serpent's damage will benefit from the Surging Winds for a full 8 seconds, even if it was cast with 1 second remaining on the buff. Another interesting interaction between these two Abilities is that a serpent that has already been cast will gain increased damage from a Surging Winds buff activated after it.

On 8/28/2016 at 8:35 AM, Guest Soaa said:

Is Li Li a good pick up at high ranks (diamond+)?

Li Li is played in all levels of play, from Bronze to Grand Master. While she is not a first pick or first ban Hero, she has unique strengths that can completely shutdown certain team compositions, specifically teams that are reliant on Basic Attacks. Li Li is also capable of talenting into a lot of damage, which can be great for duo support compositions. Finally, Li Li's kit allows her to more freely position herself, as she never stops moving; and, actually moves faster when damaged.

While she does have many strengths that should be exploited at all levels of play, she also has some drawbacks. Li Li's sustained healing is amazing, but she has no tools to save allies from heavy burst damage. This makes her a poor pick against compositions that have burst mages like Jaina or Chromie.

On 9/5/2016 at 9:56 PM, Guest ElNino said:

According to hotslogs, she has a winrate over 50% in diamond and master, so yes

This is most likely due to the fact that in high rank matches, she is primarily picked within her niche. In a pinch I have seen her taken as a comfort pick, and she usually does acceptably there; although, it can go poorly if she is picked into a lot of burst damage.

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Guest Raleara

I just seen this on the changelog under map-specific advice:

22 Jun. 2015: Cloud Serpent does not attack Chests on Blackheart's Bay

That is partially false....in it being that you have to be attacking it for it to attack chests, otherwise, it will ignore them. I did this the other day in a VS A.I. match when I was playing around.

Otherwise, I love this guide and I actually learned something here!

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Guest Dionysus

I was wondering, when is it best to take the regular healing build, and when is it better to opt for the serpent build?

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2 hours ago, Guest Dionysus said:

I was wondering, when is it best to take the regular healing build, and when is it better to opt for the serpent build?

Healing build is recommended when you are the only healer in your team, while the Serpent build offers more damage at the cost of healing power and should be usually used when you have another healer in your team, but which can not heal the whole team by themselves. 

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this is very interesting change for lili. I have fought like 200games as lili with win rate 59,3%. I can honestly say I know how to play her very efficient.

OP talent is right at lvl 1 Eager Adventurer

Talent 4 Hindering Winds is nice to have movement speed reduction as healer

Tough choice at lvl 7

1000 jugs is way worse than before patch (after lvl 20 - no CD reduction) = 70sec CD. Trait works only on basic and active abilities.

Talent at 13 Surging Winds and 20 Mistweaver for healing LiLi are the only choice and Mass Vortex and Double Dragon for dmg

Talent 16: when I went full heal I always went for 2x healing brew, but not anymore Pick Me Up is just better

Talent 20: I dont think lili needs armor. Yes its nice, but I always got killed with spell, barely to autoattack (due to clouds) I think extra armor is overkill compare to benefit which Mistweaver provides

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!!! Lili at lvl 16 can solo boss as full healer !!!

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I think I will go with dragons only - so I can help my team with 1) healing 2) slowing enemies 3) blinding them - which is really great for one hero !

What I loved about old lili was the variety of builds u could go (heal, cloud and even serpents) and all were possible to play with both ulties.

I think that my lili will have one variety for both builds (if serpent dmg will prove useful) at lvl 20 (dragons or heal). If serpent dmg build will prove weak, then it will be only one, but super strong build for lili - this makes me kinda sad about new change, I like heroes where you can go multiple talents to get totally different outcome, lili was one of them. Now I am afraid it is over.

Pro: more healing (especially Mistweaver ) and more (I dare to say endless) mana via Eager Adventurer

Pro: very long sustain anywhere on map due to Mistweaver

Cons: she always need to take dmg and her blinds/serpents need to hit Heroes only to unlock her true potential

Overall result: new lili is great

P.S.: patch came out only few hours ago, I played only test. Time will show if lili will be really good or not

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I played a lot of games with Lili and she appears to be undertuned:

-She has the lowest healing output of all healers before level 10

-Her W-build provides healing output so low that it's comparable to Tassadar.

-E not only lost damage, but overall utility

-Her trait feels meaningless without Eager Adventurer.

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Here are what I think needs to be changed for Lili:

-Her trait should last 1.5 seconds. Eager Adventurer gives 0.5 seconds instead of 50% more D.

-W needs to heal and deal more damage; this is an ability designed for trading. I wouldn't mind if W duration was decreased by 2 seconds if W healing and damage were increased by 50%. Honestly, I don't know what to do with the new W; it's just baseline terrible and some talents associated are terrible.

-E cooldown should be lowered by 2 seconds. This would make Wind Serpent a much more favorable talent and allow Lili's damage mitigation to make up for her poor healing.

Not all changes should be made, but something needs to be done. I'm going to check Hots api every so often to see if I judged her wrong.

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1 hour ago, EDL666 said:

I am quite certain there is no CD on Fast Feet, otherwise it would be terrible.

The cooldown refers to the active part gained through Safety SprintSafety Sprint.

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And that makes it go into the tooltip? Ultimately I don't decide anything around here, but I think it should just be in Safety Sprint and not on Fast Feet across the website

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2 hours ago, EDL666 said:

And that makes it go into the tooltip? Ultimately I don't decide anything around here, but I think it should just be in Safety Sprint and not on Fast Feet across the website

I passed this onto Damien and will let him decide. Thanks for the input!

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Should her W-build be removed from the guide at this point?

I mean, no one ever uses it because it's just bad and from what I see people prefer Li Li as a solo support in her current state.

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      Players will now receive an announcement when a quest milestone is reached. This will only announce to the player who achieved the milestone. Ranges of abilities on numerous Heroes have been updated to be more consistent. This may cause certain abilities ranges to reduce or increase. Brawl Starting January 2026, Brawls will only be open the first 5 days of every month. Updated Homescreen and Startup Music. Return to Top
      Map Updates
      General A new Fallback Tower has been added to the longer lanes on each of the following battleground maps. This new tower will die when its corresponding Fort dies: Alterac Pass, Battlefield of Eternity, Blackheart's Bay, Braxis Holdout, Cursed Hollow, Dragon Shire, Garden of Terror, Hanamura Temple, Infernal Shrines, Sky Temple, Tomb of the Spider Queen, Volskaya Foundry, and Warhead Junction. Attacks from the Core, Keeps, Forts, Fallback Towers, and Towers near Keeps will now reduce Hero armor, and the reduction has been increased from -10/-20 Armor to -20/-40 Armor. Fallback Towers have the same HP and Attack Damage as Keep Towers. Forts, Keeps, and the Core will no longer grant Allied Heroes that take damage in their radius 35 Armor for 4 seconds. The comeback system has been slightly magnified, particularly at wide level gaps. Alterac Pass Objective capture timer reduced by 5 seconds in each phase. The first phase only spawns a single defending unit. Cavalry now gain more health in the later stages of the game. Cavalry now take 60% damage from structures (up from 50%). Braxis Holdout Early objectives have lowered in health by 15%, but scaling has been increased significantly after 15 minutes. Garden of Terror Garden Terror health scaling increased. Garden Terror structure disabling plant bulb now damages itself at 10% per second (up from 6%). Infernal Shrines Early objectives have lowered in health by 15%, but scaling has been increased significantly after 15 minutes. Warhead Junction Nuke damage has been changed to flat, scaling damage. Scaling is updated when a Warhead is picked up. Nukes now deal double damage versus Forts, Keeps, and the Core. Return to Top
      Balance Update
      General
      Pinnacle Rewards have been added to mutiple Heroes. These will be hard to obtain but provide powerful rewards. Heroes
      Falstad
      Base
      Lightning Rod [W] Cooldown reduced from 13 seconds to 12 seconds. Talents
      Level 1 Dishonorable Discharge REWORK: No longer reduces CD. Bonuses are now provided at 20/45/75 hits. At 20 hits, gain 30% damage. At 45 hits, gain an additional 75% damage and reduce the cooldown by 2 seconds. Pinnacle Reward: At 75 hits, Lightning Rod provides 2 additional strikes and Stuns for 1.25s on its last strike. Frequent Flyer REWORK: Reduced attack speed bonus from 40% to 25%. Now provides 1 stack per minion and 5 stacks per Hero. At 50 stacks, gain 20 Attack Damage. At 125 stacks, gain an additional 50 Attack Damage. Pinnacle Reward: At 300 stacks, gain an additional 125 Attack Damage. Gathering Storm REWORK: Bonuses are now provided at 30/80/150 stacks, rather than incremental gains. At 30 stacks, gain 30% damage. At 80 stacks, gain an additional 50% damage. Pinnacle Reward: At 150 stacks, gain an additional 70% damage. REWORK: Lose 8 stacks on death, but can not lose milestones that have already been completed. Level 7 Charged Up Moved to be a Level 13 Talent. No longer provides additional hits, but instead provides cooldown refresh on Hero takedowns. Level 13 Thunderstrikes Moved to be a Level 7 Talent. Guldan
      Base
      Corruption [E] Mana cost increased from 80 to 90. Talents
      Level 1 Echoed Corruption Increased stack requirement to 60. Pinnacle Reward: At 100 stacks, Corruption now heals for 50% of the damage dealt. Pursuit of Flame Increased radius from 10% to 15%. Reworded to say "Fel Flame's area is increased by 33%". Progress is now reset upon death and can not lose progress upon completion. Johanna
      Base
      Punish [Q] Slow on enemies reduced from 60% to 50%. Talents
      Level 4 Subdue Slow on enemies reduced from 80% to 70%. Kael'thas
      Talents
      Level 1 Convection REWORK: Every 20th Hero hit permanently increases Flamestrike damage by 150 and Kael'thas's maximum Health by 50. Kerrigan
      Base
      Primal Grasp [E] Cooldown reduced from 10 to 8. Delayed damage reduced from 195 to 165. Initial damage increased from 25 to 40. Ravage [Q] Damage reduced from 130 to 115. Now includes a baseline quest: Kill enemies within 1.5 seconds of hitting them with Ravage. Minions grant 1 progress and Heroes grant 5. At 75 stacks, Ravage gains 125 damage. Pinnacle Reward: At 125 stacks, Ravage gains 200 additional damage. Impaling Blades [W] Cooldown reduced from 12 seconds to 9 seconds. Damage reduced from 165 to 140. Radius increased from 1.5 to 1.65. Stun duration reduced from 1 second to .75 seconds. Assimilation [D] Increased the amount of shield gained from Basic Attacks from 10% to 20% of damage dealt. Talents
      Level 1 Fury of the Swarm No longer increases shields gained from Basic Attacks. Level 4 Sharpened Blades Talent has been removed. Ravaging Ferocity NEW: Gain 25% attack speed for 3 seconds after using Ravage. Level 7 Boundless Fury Cooldown increased from 10 seconds to 12 seconds. Queen of Blades Cooldown reduction increased from 3 seconds to 4 seconds. Level 10 Summon Ultralisk Damage reduced from 250 to 225. Level 13 Chrysalis HP lowered from 750 to 650. Reduced the amount of health regenerated from 5% max health per second to 4%. Level 16 Painful Spikes Damage reduced from 70 to 60. Level 20 Omegastorm Increased extended duration from .25 seconds per hit to .4 seconds per hit. Sylvanas
      Base
      Black Arrows [D] Black Arrows now refers to what was previously called "Banshee's Curse". New Baseline Quest: Deal damage to Heroes or Structures with 3 stacks of black arrows. At 250 stacks, increased the damage bonus of Black Arrows to 50%. Pinnacle Reward: At 400 stacks, heal for 25% of damage dealt against enemies with 3 stacks of Black Arrows, doubled against Heroes. Reduced base damage bonus of Black Arrows to 15%. Activatable portion of Black Arrows has been removed. Talents
      Level 1 Unfurling Shadows Talent has been removed. Unrelenting Torment NEW: Increases the damage of Shadow Dagger by 20% and increase its duration by 1 second. Level 4 Haunting Arrows NEW: You can now activate Black Arrows to cause all damage dealt to stun non-heroes. 90 second cooldown, reduced by 3 seconds when attacking a structure. Possession Now a Baseline ability. 25 seconds to restore each charge, 2 seconds cooldown. Max 4 charges. Level 7 Barbed Shot Bonus damage increased from 350% to 400%. Lost Soul REWORK: Reduces the cooldown of Shadow Dagger when attacking non-minions with 3 stacks of Black Arrows by .75 seconds, doubled against Heroes. Level 13 Windrunner Recast window reduced from 5 seconds to 4 seconds. Thrall
      Talents
      Level 1 Crash Lightning REWORK: Bonuses are now provided at 15 and 30 stacks. At each milestone, Chain Lightning gains 270 damage. Lose 6 stacks on death, but can not lose milestones that have already been completed. Echo of the Elements REWORK: Bonuses are now provided at 20/40/100 stacks. At 20 stacks, reduce mana cost of Chain Lightning by 20. At 40 stacks, Chain Lightning gains an extra charge and will bounce one additional time. Pinnacle Reward: At 100 stacks, Chain Lightning will fork to an additional target each time it bounces. Rolling Thunder Moved to be a Level 7 Talent. No longer increases Chain Lightning bounces by 1. Level 7 Maelstrom Weapon Moved to be a Level 1 Talent. REWORK: Bonuses are now provided at 20/40/100 stacks, rather than incremental gains. At 20 stacks, gain 20 damage and increase the movespeed bonus to 40%. At 40 stacks, gain an additional 40 damage and Thrall permanently gains 15% increased movement speed. Pinnacle Reward: At 100 stacks, Frostwolf Resilience now provides +200% Healing. Level 16 Tempest Fury No longer provides additional quest stacks. Thunderstorm Increased damage bonus provided at max stacks from 25% to 30%. Level 20 Wind Rush Cooldown increased from 80 seconds to 90 seconds. Tyrael
      Talents
      Level 1 Ardent Restoration Maximum healing stacks reduced from 10 to 8. Level 4 Reciprocate Damage reduced from 190 to 170. Level 7 Burning Halo Damge per second reduced from 15 to 12. Level 10 Sanctification Cooldown reduced from 90 seconds to 85 seconds. Mana cost reduced from 75 to 70. Level 20 Aspect of Justice Cast time reduced from 1.5 seconds to 1.25 seconds. Cooldown reduction per enemy Hero hit increased from 10% to 15%. Zul'jin
      Base
      Basic Attack Damage decreased from 96 to 94. You Want Axe? [D] No longer has a cap on stacks. Now causes Zul'jin to lose 3 stacks (15 hits) on death. Talents
      Level 1 Headhunter Increased damage bonus per hero kill from 2% to 2.5%. Return to Top
      Bug Fixes
      Map
      Blackheart's Bay Fixed an issue that caused the Battleground Objective to not start if a particular chest is the last destroyed chest. Fixed an issue that caused the help text for attacking the Treasure Chest to not disappear if a particular chest is attacked. Warhead Junction Fixed Warhead Junction Nuke Damage Dealt tracking. Heroes
      Cho'gall Base Eye of Kilrogg [Skill 1] Fixed an issue that caused the Eye of Kilrogg's cast range indicator to be slightly larger than the ability range. Level 1 We See You! Fixed an issue that caused We See You's range increase tooltip value to display incorrectly after being selected. D.Va Fixed an issue that caused D.Va's Mech to not respawn with the correct amount of Blackheart's Bay Doubloons. Base Defense Matrix [W] Fixed missing icon in D.Va's Quick Cast setting for Retarget Defense Matrix. Gazlowe Level 16 Firin' Mah Lazors Fixed an issue that caused Firin' Mah Lazorz's warning to not display correctly. Fixed an issue that caused Big Top Gazlowe's Firin' Mah Lazorz to create permanent visuals. Kael'thas Base Living Bomb [W] Living Bomb will not activate its effects on a target that becomes immune to Living Bomb. Living Bomb will now apply its effects if the target dies with Living Bomb. Raynor Base Adrenaline Rush [E] Fixed an issue that caused Adrenaline Rush to not display the base duration in its tooltip after selecting Give Me More. Stukov Level 1 Reactive Ballistospores Fixed Reactive Ballistospores tooltip. Tychus Base Overkill [Q] Overkill retarget can now also be targeted in a direction. When clicking near or on a target, it will attach to that target, but if no targets are nearby, Overkill will start firing in that direction. If Overkill hits a target while firing in a direction, that target will become Overkill's primary target. If Overkill is active when there are no possible targets, Overkill will no longer be cancelled, and instead will start firing in the direction of the last primary target. Fixed an issue that caused mounting to not interrupt Overkill. Valla Base Hatred [D] Fixed Hatred Tooltip. Level 20 Storm of Vengeance Fixed an issue that caused Storm of Vengeance to not grant 2% Attack Speed per Hatred stack. Zagara Level 1 Infest Fixed Infest active current bonus tooltip. Level 16 Mutalisk Fixed Mutalisk tooltip. Return to Top
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