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Prot evaluation (mainly low dps)

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Hey guys, I am semi new to tanking and deciphering logs and I could really use some advice. My dps is obnoxiously low and I can't seen to figure out why. I know I should be focusing on my survivability mainly but when comparing myself to other warriors I cast roughly the same number of each spell (both damage and mitigation) but mine seem to only hit half as hard. I will include some logs and my armory. Please feel free to give me constructive criticism on what I am questioning as well as anywhere you see I could improve. Thanks in advance guys!

 

 

Logs- https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7z94LW8yqhtHB1PQ

          https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/32nJcqrTZLa8QxVX

 

 

Armory- http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormreaver/Ghroxxar/advanced

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One thing I see. You should be going with Crit chants on rings and neck. Crit = parry which equals more Revenge hits and more dmg. And those terribad trinks need to replaced asap.

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I'm going to let Esta take care of this request more formally but here's my $0.02

  • While your damage output as a tank can help, the DPS factor is never one of my concerns. As far as damage output goes I only concern myself with the fact that I'm hitting the right one if there are multiple targets available. That's the biggest contribution you can make, imo, as a tank doing damage. Your number 1 priority is making sure you're mitigating damage and surviving, obviously, and managing the boss and their mechanic(s): position, facing, taunt switches, debuffs, etc. Let the damage dealers worry about DPS.
  • Critical Strike (as suggested by JueceFlavour) is alright in the low item level of prot gear. Eventually, though, you will want to switch out and maintain Mastery enchants on your gear. A critical strike build can give you great DPS - especially in AoE situations - but your primary role isn't DPS as noted in the first bullet.
  • Bloodbath is your single target talent and Bladestorm is your multiple target talent. (again referencing JueceFlavour's comment.)

 

I hope these few things help to some degree. As I said, when Esta gets around to it she will post her feedback; she's pretty good about that. Just be patient.

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Sorry for the long wait!

 

I'll start with Iron Reaver and I'll be looking exclusively at Ground phases, since there's not much you can do in Air phases.

 

You had two minutes of Ground phase with one Bloodbath and two Dragon Roars. Make sure you're syncing your uses of those. I also notice one Demo Shout and Last Stand. You could have fit a Shield Wall in.

 

You died 1:49 into the Ground Phase. Your Shield Block fell of 7.11 seconds before your death and you used nothing else until you died. Shield Barrier may not be big and beefy like it once was, but it still could have saved you.

 

I see and Draenic Strength pot in your buffs list. The strength pot gives you 1000 AP. An armor pot would give you 1500 AP and a sizeable boost to survivability. You have 5 Shield Barrier casts with an average size of only 40k. If you're using those to soak the Artillery, make sure you're using it about 5 seconds before it hits to maximize your Barrier size since Resolve falls off quickly.

 

Your Shield Block uptime looks really low and so I pulled up the graph of your timings to compare to when you are taking melee damage. You were tanking the boss for the first ~15s with no Shield Block. The second time you're tanking, it takes about 7s for you to put up a Shield Block. Same with the third time. The fourth time, you didn't use SBlk at all. The fifth time, you use a Shield Block on time and it covered the whole period of melee damage. The final time, you used no SBlk at all. You should be using your defensive abilities much more.

 

One critical thing I need to look at to give you solid information is rage use, but you logged without Advance Combat Logging turned on, so I can't see your rage use. If you could turn that on next time, I'd be able to give you a better assessment. Protection warriors are all about rage management.

 

For a 2 minute phase, you should have about 80 GCDs used. Since you have to run out, I estimate that you lose about 10s worth of useable time every time. You got artillery 3 times. So I'm estimating about 60 GCDs. From your damage done, I see that you used 52 GCDs. My estimate is pretty conservative, so it looks like you may be losing some GCDs.

 

At this point, I can't give you any solid recommendations. If you had ACL on, I could look at your rage use and tell you if you could have put more rage into damage or not.

 

My recommendations thus far are to change your talents as has been recommended, focus on having Shield Block up when tanking, and bring me some logs with ACL turned on.

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