I Could use some help with my DPS

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Question: I feel like I should be doing ALOT more DPS for the gear that I have but I can't seem to go higher than 50k. I have the opener burst down mostly but keeping the damage up seems to be trouble. I've played using defile, breath, and necroblight but find that breath is usually where I do more DPS. Any tips on how to pump out better numbers? When I have breath I usually try to take advantage of using AMS to absorb magic damage for extra runic power but It doesn't seem to be helping to much.



EDIT: gonna try DW frost. I don't think I have the gear for unholy

Edited by Alarmclock

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So, I enjoy digging through logs to see what I could do better, and since you posted yours I figured I'd see what I could do to help you out. I didn't look through all of your logs but I dug into your Iron Reaver fight a bit since it is a simple one to pull apart. I noticed a few things that should help bring your DPS up if/when you decide to come back to playing Unholy.


1) You wasted a rune to plague strike after getting into melee range instead of using outbreak on the way in. Its not a big DPS lose but its a simple thing to fix as well.

2) You are running Breath of Sindragosa for the fight but you spent runic power to cast a death coil at 6.6 seconds into the fight. You need to save all of your runic power until after your first Breath of Sindragosa is finished to maximize its uptime.

3) You got procs of Sudden Doom at 7.8, 15.4 and 22.9 seconds (3 separate procs) but didn't use any of them until after a 4th proc (at 24.7 seconds) came up. They don't stack, you need to make sure you use them.

4) You reached a full 12 stacks of Blood Charge at 19.5 seconds into the fight but you didn't use your first Blood Tap until 33.3 seconds into the fight. If you are having trouble properly managing your blood tap, switch to runic corruption instead.

5) Ring was used (not by you, but if you aren't using it then you have to line your rotation up with whoever is using it to maximize your dps) at 2 seconds into the fight, but you didn't start your Breath of Sindragosa until 10.5 seconds in and only got 13 ticks of Breath despite having a heroism active. You want to try to start Breath as soon as the ring is used and to keep Breath going for the full 15 second duration of the ring, at a minimum. If you aren't able to do that, consider staying with Necrotic Plague or Defile instead.


Overall your gear isn't bad, but you will want to pick up your 4 set bonus as soon as you are able. On top of that I strongly suggest putting in the effort to get yourself a Convulsive Shadows trinket from Iron Maidens in BRF. Even the heroic version (685 iLVL) of the trinket will be better than either of the trinkets you are currently using.


All around you aren't doing badly, Unholy is a challenging spec to master and you have the concept well in hand, you just need to polish up your rotation a bit.


I hope this helps you out and good luck!

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