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Frost Mage Boot Enchant

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I apologize if this has already been asked but I can't seem to find an answer anywhere.

Everywhere online recommends the Enchant Boots - Pandaren's Step as the boot enchant (or sometimes Greater Precision) but I'm really struggling to understand how Pandaren's Step is a better alternative than Enchant Boots - Greater Haste.

I can see how the 8% movement increase would be very valuable in pvp, but in pve, with Blink, and mastery as our weakest stat, does that 8% really make 140 Mastery better that 175 Haste?

Could someone please help me understand?

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The 8% is merely a quality of life improvement for pve. If you are comfortable with staying out of ground effects with Blink then technically the 175 Haste would be better, but we are talking about a totally negligible gain in dps. It is dependent on the fight, but typically the movement bonus (when blink isn't up) will make up more dps than the stat weights (due to increased uptime on target).

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It would have to be a considerable dps gain to opt out of the run speed increase. Mages will always benefit from run speed increase in raids because most of our options to cast on the move are less dps outside of procs. This holds especially true when human response meets the need to move making milliseconds that much more valuable. Currently the haste is better by roughly 46%, but on such a small enchant this could easily gone unnoticed.

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Thanks for the answers, that makes sense. I always threw down a freeze if I knew I was going to have to move so I'd have some insta-casts. Generally can't do that anymore so I guess I'll stick with Mastery :)

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The 8% is merely a quality of life improvement for pve

That may be what it technically is, but I've grown so accustomed to having some sort of minor run speed that I feel sluggish without it.

Anybody else feel this way?

~Sage

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That may be what it technically is, but I've grown so accustomed to having some sort of minor run speed that I feel sluggish without it.

Anybody else feel this way?

~Sage

Sorry after rereading my post I realize I wasn't very clear. I FULLY recommend the run speed enchant over the haste. 99% of the time it will be more effective and provide more dps due to increased uptime with your standard rotation. Posted Image

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Sorry after rereading my post I realize I wasn't very clear. I FULLY recommend the run speed enchant over the haste. 99% of the time it will be more effective and provide more dps due to increased uptime with your standard rotation. Posted Image

I might not have played for about 2 to 3 weeks now, but I was still pretty sure run speed was the recommended. You scared me for a sec, like 5.2 introduced a new boot enchant that I'd be forced to switch to for min/maxing purposes.

Not cool bro

~Sage

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Pnadarens step is best, because the movement speed for one gets you around that small bit faster, and for 2, mastery increases damage against frozen targets, and with your Frostfire bolt and FoF procs, the casts count as the target being frozen so the damage does increase slightly and is good for nthe extra bit of dps

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The 8% is merely a quality of life improvement for pve. If you are comfortable with staying out of ground effects with Blink then technically the 175 Haste would be better, but we are talking about a totally negligible gain in dps. It is dependent on the fight, but typically the movement bonus (when blink isn't up) will make up more dps than the stat weights (due to increased uptime on target).

I had the same question as the OP a couple weeks ago, and came to the same conclusion when I tried it. Yes, Mastery is weak for Frost, but getting an edge in mobility helps in any situation. Plus, Frost excels at kiting and the movement speed boost just makes it even better.

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