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DISCLAIMER: THIS GUIDE IS OUT OF DATE AS IT WAS MADE FOR 5.4. PLEASE SEE THE IVY-VEINS GUIDE HERE FOR THE CURRENT ROTATION GUIDE

This guide is an attempt answer some queestions that Fury Warriors might have. In it, I'll do my best to try and write down some thoughts, notes and tips on how to better play your Fury warrior.

I mostly wrote this guide from hands-on experience, supported by a bit of napkin math and Simcraft, but the main point of it is to make people understand how the spec "feels". You can give a weapon to a warrior, but you can't run it through his enemies' bodies for him.

Should you have any comments, questions or tips to share about the rotation, tips, gear or talents, just ask them down below and I will do my best to answer any question and reply to your comments as soon as I can.

Note: This is only a Fury guide, which I will maintain updated to the best of my abilities. The Protection guide has been written and is being maintained by Estarriol and can be found here. The Arms guide is written and maintained by Sajakain and can be found here.

 

5.4 Fury Warrior

0) 5.4 Changes

Quite a lot has changed for warriors in 5.4, here's a summary of the changes that are going to affect Fury Warriors:

  • Warrior Stances now have a 1.5-second cooldown (down from 3 seconds).
  • Deep Wounds damage has been increased by 65%.
  • Hamstring is no longer on a global cooldown.
  • Intervene now also breaks roots and snares when used. (Changed back in 5.4.2)
  • Shattering Throw no longer costs rage.
  • Shield Wall and Spell Reflection no longer requires a shield.
  • Titan’s Grip now works with polearms.
  • Bladestorm's cooldown has decreased to 60 seconds (down from 1.5 minutes).
  • Bloodbath's snare and bleed effects are now two separate debuffs.
  • Both healing components of Enraged Regeneration have been buffed by 100%.
  • Impending Victory has been buffed slightly.
  • Storm Bolt now has a duration of 4 seconds (up from 3 seconds), and has an off-hand attack for Fury Warriors.
  • Vigilance no longer transfers damage to the Warrior.

Most of there are quality of life changes, however, a few are noteworthy: The Vigilance change basically gives us a Pain Suppression, so it's going to become a very useful CD to have in raids. Also, the Storm Bolt buff makes it very attractive to Fury Warrior. With the CD reduction trinket, you can fit Storm Bolt inside every CS which should make it a batter choice than Bloodbath when Warriors get their BiS gear.


1) Frequently asked questions:

1.1 Fury or Arms?

Unless you are playing in a top 100 guild where every single point of DPS counts, play whichever one you prefer. You'll always have an easier time and more fun playing a spec that you're more comfortable with. Both spec are close enough that they are viable enough for casual raiding.

However, if you really care about maxing every single aspect of your DPS, you will have to Dual Spec in both DPS specs. Fury is still ahead of Arms in single target fights, however the 5.4 changes Buffed Arms cleave and AoE to a point where they destroy Fury's. At lower ilvls, however (about below 510-515) Arms will win on both ST and AoE.

To sum it up:

  • Single target: SMF or TG
  • Cleave and AoE: Arms

Note: The gap between SMF and TG is pretty small. See next question.

1.2 Single Minded Fury or Titan's Grip?

Short answer is: It doesn't matter. Just go with the best weapons you have available. The higher the ilvl, the better it is. Switching from T14N (ilvl 496) weapons to T15N (ilvl 522) alone can easily boost your DPS by 15k to 25k, depending on the secondary stats on those weapons. SMF and TG are close enough in value that going with whichever one oyu have the best set of weapons for will always give you the best results.

If you have equivalent weapons for both specs, TG will pull slightly ahead of SMF with the 5.4 changes. Once you get the CD Reduction trinket, TG with Storm Bolt is going to go even farther ahead of SMF. Considering in 5.4 AoE, Arms will be our go-to spec, TG would be a ver good choice for Fury in 5.4 if you're lucky enough to get the weapons you want.

1.3 I saw that thing where a warrior used a 2-handed weapon in his main hand and a one-handed weapon in his offhand...

DO NOT DO THIS. You are losing way too many stats while doing this. Mainly, you are not getting the 35% damage buff from Single Minded Fury, and you're lacking the bigger secondary stats of a 2-handed weapon. No matter what you do, ALWAYS use 2 weapons of the same type.

1.4 Can I go Titan's Grip for the better AoE and switch to Single Minded Fury mid-fight to benefit from the improved execute?

No. Well, actually, you *can*, but you should NEVER do this. Switching weapons puts the Single Minded Fury passive ability on a 30 seconds internal cooldown. This basically means that should you switch to 1 handed weapons mid-fight, you'll lose 30 seconds of ~35% increased DPS, which no matter how good SMF's execute is, you won't be able to make up for.

Note: Equipping a shield does not trigger this effect, though with the 5.4 change to Shield Wall you should seldon need to equip shield as Fury.

1.5 Did the haste buff in 5.2 change anything for us?

No. Same stat priority, same rotation. Fury only got one small buff in 5.2 and it doesn't change the rotation at all. The RRPM trinkets, meta gem and T15 set bonus did make haste a small bit better for us though, as long as you have all 3 of the mentioned pieces of gear on you.

2) Rotation tips

2.1 Fury's 2 speed DPS system.

Simply put, Fury lives on a 6-14 DPS priority.

What this means is, for every 20 seconds (which happens to be Colossus Smash's cooldown, not just a coincidence) you'll have 6 seconds of button smashing frenzy, followed by 14 seconds of sleeping, going to grab a coffee and taking a walk in the park.

With time, you'll learn to appreciate and live with the "micro-burst" rotation. Whereas a DoT classe's DPS timeline might look pretty constant, a Fury warrior's PDS timeline looks like a saw blade, with the DPS peaking at insane numbers every 20 seconds.

2.2 Colossus Smash

This is the ability that makes a Fury warrior's DPS so good. If you can use it correctly, you're in business. If you don't know what you're doing with that skill and only use it mindlessly every time it comes of cooldown you're doing something wrong.

For every Colossus Smash you want to have at least 60, preferably 80-90, rage pooled up. If you're below that amount, it might be worth waiting a GCD or two to get one more Bloodthirst in to get more rage. Also, you want to get into your Colossus Smash debuff window with 2 charges of Raging Blow available if possible, and at the very least 1 charge.

Once you hit the Colossus Smash button, you have 6 seconds to wreck havoc. Raging Blow is by far the skill with the most Damage per rage you have, so you want to use all its charges inside a CS window. You still want to use Bloodthirst on cooldown to generate more RB charges and more rage. Finally, you also want to spam Heroic Strike as much as your rage allows, since it is off the GCD. Heroic Leap also being off the GCD, if you don't need it for movement of if a particular positioning isn't required you can use it inside a CS window for more DPS. Should you decide to do so, just HLeap from one corner of the hitbox of the boss to the other.

A perfect CS window would look like this: BT -> CS -> RB (HS) -> BT (HS) -> RB (HS) -> RB (HS).

A sub-20% CS window would look like this: BT -> CS -> Execute -> Execute -> Execute -> Execute.

2.3 Saving Rage

When the 6 seconds CS window is over, you now have 14 seconds to prepare for the next one.

This means, no rage spending unless you really have to. (i.e. you are about to cap) The only skills you use should be the ones that are rage-free, or really cheap. In order of priority: Bloodthirst to generate rage, Dragon Roar (should you have chosen that talent) (Note: Dragon Roar Should only ever be used right before or right after a CS, when you have the Bloodbath buff on you), procced Wild Strikes (remember that with 5.2 they are now entirely free), Heroic Throw, Impending Victory (should you have chosen that talent).

If you get too close to capping rage, your default rage dump should be a non-procced Wild Strike. If the Wild Strike is currently free due to Bloodsurge OR if you're going to cap rage before WS comes off the GCD then you may use Heroic Strike to dump a bit of rage.

Note #1: Some people might feel the need to fill *all* their GCD as Fury. This is not needed. If you don't have a free, or really cheap skill off cooldown and you're not about to cap your rage, just let the GCD go without casting anything.

Note #2: You should only use Raging Blow outside of the Colossus Smash window if you reach 2 charges of it, or if its remaining charge is going to drop before CS comes off cooldown.

Note #3: Sub-20%, you can use RB outside of CS as you want to save Rage for Executes, and therefore RB isn't used inside of CS from that point on.

2.4 Berserker Rage

This pretty useful button has two main uses: First, it forces an enrage, increasing your damage by whatever % your mastery is at. Second: It forces a Raging Blow charge, allowing you to cast this spell more often.

While not totally disregarding its first function, there are 3 main uses to BR in a Fury warrior's rotation:

  • Forcing a Raging Blow proc inside of a CS window: If there is more than 2 second left to the CS debuff, you can use BR to force a RB proc and get one more RB in before the end of the CS debuff.
  • Keeping a RB charge from dropping outside of a CS window: If there's less than 1 second left on the RB charge and less than 10 seconds remaining on CS's cooldown, you can use Berserker Rage to force a new RB charge, resetting its duration and making it last long enough to use in the next CS window. This however, becomes less and less necessary as our crit goes up, because even if the RB charge doesn't make it to CS chances are BT will crit before the next CS.
  • Forcing an Enrage during a sub-20% CS. If CS doesn't crit you won't be enraged for the full duration of it, and having both enrage and CS up is a *huge* damage gain for Execute. You can use BR to force a full enrage during CS and have all 4 executes on steroids.

3) Talents and Glyphs

3.1 Talents

Whereas the Icy-Veins warrior guides have a good breakdown of which talent is best for the maximum DPS, my idea here will be to say which ones could be useful under specific circumstances, as well as defending my favorite ones. I will not go over the description of each individual talent; the IV guide does that very well already.

Tier 1:

Juggernaut can be useful only if you really charge regularly more often than every 20 seconds. However, this is really unlikely to happen. Double Time, on the other hand, is my personal choice here. It offers you a huge buff in your burst mobility.

On most fights, you're going to need to move quick from one point to another, and then you'll be able to stay around that point without needing to charge for quite some time, which gives time to get both Double Time charges back up. As I said, Juggernaut is also a very good choice, but it is very hard to use it to its full potential.

Verdict: Double Time should be default, Juggernaut whenever the movement is regular and predictable.

Tier 2:

Doing a bit of napkin math, 1 talent really pulls ahead in a perfect situation:

Second Wind heals for 3% of your health per second, or 180% per minute as long as you are below 35%.

Impending Victory heals for 20% every 30 seconds, or 40% per minute.

Enraged Regeneration (assuming you use it while enraged, which shouldn't be too hard at above 30% crit chance) heals for 40% every 1 minute.

In terms of raw healing, Second Wind has no competition. However you are almost never below 35% long enough for it to be worth it. Its strength comes from constant AoE damage, a là Heroic Will of the Emperor or Primorius when he gets the Raidwide Damage mutation, allowing you to easily survive to the damage for a few seconds before a healer heals you. Second Wind also has a Strength in being a "Choose and forget" talent.

Impending Victory's heals are a bit lackluster, however, the talent is a (minuscule) DPS increase. On top of that, if there is a fight with a lot of adds, its value is diminished as getting procs of Victory Rush overrides the purpose of this talent. Also, if there is a time where you can't melee the boss or the adds, Impending Victory is useless to help you in those situations.

Enraged Regeneration is a good cooldown, however it has a rather long 1 minute cooldown. It is still a substantial 40% heal every 1 minute. In a situation where there is some predictable big burst of damage coming every 1 minute to 90 seconds, (i.e. Tortos' Quake Stomp) Enraged Regen is a strong cooldown to rapidly top you off. It also gains strength in situation where you can't melee your ennemies and therefore can't use Impending Victory (i.e Lei Shen transition phases).

Verdict: Enraged Regen or Impending Victory depending on the type of fight, Second Wind in very specific fights (or for soloing old stuff).

Tier 3:

If there are spells to interrupt: Disrupting Shout.

If there are adds that need slowing: Piercing Howl

If there are adds that need to be rooted *and* there is someone else that can mass-slow them: Staggering Shout

Verdict: See above.

Tier 4:

This one is between Dragon Roar and Bladestorm.

  • If the fight is purely single target, go Dragon Roar.
  • If there is 2 targets or more that you can hit with Bladestorm at any point in the fight, take it.
  • However, if you're part of a chain stun rotation on groups of mobs more often than once per minute (think Challenge Mode dungeons), then go Shockwave.

Verdict: Dragon Roar on single target, Bladestorm on AoE.

Tier 5:

This one is a fight by fight basis.

Safeguard if you need to often reduce damage on an ally, be careful if you use it on a tank, you are going to eat the boss' next melee attack.

Mass Spell Reflect if there is spells worth reflecting on other raid members. If you're only using it to reflect spells of yourself, then make a macro to equip your shield and cast Spell Reflect and get a better tier 5 talent.

Vigilance if your raid can make use of another external cooldown. As of 5.4, Vigilance doesn't transfer damage to you anymore, so you can freely use it on any raid member without fear of dying.

My default choice is Vigilance, you never have too many defensive cooldowns. However, remember to switch to any of the other 2 talents if combat mechanics make them more useful.

Verdict: Vigilance by default, Safeguard or MSA if they can serve your raid better.

Tier 6:

Number wise, Storm Bolt and Bloodbath are the only 2 viable options. For TG, Storm Bolt barely outclasses Bloodbath and should be your default choice for 5.4 (Though BB is close enough that you shouldn't fare too bad if you prefer to keep it). If you decide to take Storm Bolt you'll want to use it on cd even though half the uses won't benefit from CS.

For SMF, you will want to keep bloodbath until you get the CD reduction trinket (Evil Eye of Galakras), and at least the Flex version (LFR one won't cut it). In that case, you should take Stormbolt, as it will line up with every Colossus Smash for massive damage.

Verdict: For SMF: Bloodbath, unless you have Flex+ Evil Eye of Galakras trinket, then go Storm Bolt. For TG: Storm Bolt or Bloodbath until Galakras trinket, then Storm Bolt.

3.2 Glyphs

Major:

I cannot stress enough how awesome Unending Rage is. Take it. 20 more rage to pool for CS windows is pure awesome.

Heroic Leap is very good too. You can never have enough mobility. Take it, unless some other glyphs are better suited for the situation.

Your other choices are: Rude Interruption if you have anything at all to interrupt is a DPS increase. If you don't have a druid, rogue or protection warrior to keep the sunder armor debuff applied, you can use the glyph of Colossus Smash to keep the debuff applied yourself. Finally, if there is a lot of AoE, Raging Wind is a DPS increase.

Minor:

They are all cosmetic. So take Blazing Trail. Fiery Charge. Come on guys, what can be more awesome?

4) Gear

4.1 Stat priority

Without inv_jewelry_orgrimmarraid_trinket_03.jpgThok's Tail Tip:

  • Hit (to 7.5) = Exp (to 7.5) > Crit (to ~42-43%) >= Str >= Mastery > Crit > Haste > Hit (to hard cap)
With inv_jewelry_orgrimmarraid_trinket_03.jpgThok's Tail Tip:
  • Hit (to 7.5) = Exp (to 7.5) > Crit (to infinity and beyond) > Mastery >= Str > Haste > Hit (to hard cap)
Note #1: If you don't have the legendary Meta Gem and/or RPPM trinkets, Haste will go below Hit (to hard cap) in both lists.

Note #2: The list above is only a rough representation of what your stat priority should look like. Since many stats can overcome each other at different gearing tresholds (Crit/Str/Mastery mainly) you're better off simming yourself to see where your own stat priority is at.

4.2 Weapons

Available weapons in Siege of Orgrimmar are as follow:

  1. 1 Handed:
  2. 2 Handed
Always remember the rule that generally, an higher ilvl weapon will be better than a lower one.

For TG, Xal'atoh will obviously be BiS. For SMF, Kil'ruk's Furious Blade will be BiS unless you are an Orc, in which case Malkorok's Skullcleaver will be your go to weapon.

4.3 Trinket ranking

Once again taken from Collision, on the US Warrior Forums

Click here to see the full results of the simulations.

For single target:

  1. Evil Eye of Galakras
  2. Thok's Tail Tip
  3. Skeer's Bloodsoaked Talisman
  4. T15 Trinkets (Primordius > Ji Kun > Twins)
  5. Fusion-Fire Core
For AoE (At least 3 targets):
  1. Fusion-Fire Core
  2. Evil Eye of Galakras
  3. Thok's Tail Tip
  4. Skeer's Bloodsoaked Talisman
  5. T15 Trinkets (Primordius > Ji Kun > Twins)

And you've come to the end of my small guide. I hope it did help you. If you have any question or comments about this guide or Fury warriors in general, just post them down below or send me a private message.

I will also take in considerations demands and suggestions about things I should add, remove or fix in this guide with open arms :)

-Rage

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Allright, I call this one tentatively *almost* complete. I need to do quite a but of simming to get the right value on the trinkets, though I can say for pretty much certain that Gaze of the Twins and Primordus' Talisman of Rage will be BiS.

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Added temporary trinket ranking (looks like Fabled feather and Gaze are actually BiS, though if you can't get rid of the Hit on Ji-Kun, Primordius' Talisman will be pretty good too)

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Great guide, easy to understand and I do appreacate the discussion on CS (no longer mindlessly using it on CD). Just have one stupid question. From the tanking prespective (espically as prot warrior), the main problem I have is getting threat, not keeping it. The pull is always the most stressful part, espically in dealing with mobs. So, from that point of view, dpsers using dragon roar is my nightmare due to the pushback. I haven't seen to many warriors using dragon roar at all, but I have screamed at some druids for using typhoon on pull, making it very difficult to get threat on a group of splitting mobs. I'm not sure on what your (or others) experience has been on this, but I've tried to think about the tank's job when dpsing. Not sure if anyone has thought of this or if this has ever been a problem for other tanks, but thought I would throw in my two cents.

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[...] So, from that point of view, dpsers using dragon roar is my nightmare due to the pushback. I haven't seen to many warriors using dragon roar at all, but I have screamed at some druids for using typhoon on pull, making it very difficult to get threat on a group of splitting mobs. I'm not sure on what your (or others) experience has been on this, but I've tried to think about the tank's job when dpsing. [...]

I have talked about this quite a lot with both my tanks, and the word I got from them is that the DR pushback isn't enough to be much of an annoyance. Their main AoE threat abilities (i.e. Blood Boil and Spinning Crane Kick, since I raid with a blood dk and Brewmaster monk) have a bigger range than the pushback of DR, so it's not too bad. The main concern, I think, is to make sure that the DPS warrior know to react in the event where they pull aggro. (Usually Die by the Sword is enough to survive until the tank regains aggro).

A druid's typhoon or a shammy's thunderstorm are something else however, because their pushback is much bigger.

Finally, I will say that opening with DR is not that bad of an idea, if you know that your tanks can keep aggro, since you usually have 1 or 2 GCD's to wait on the pulls for your enchants/trinkets to proc before you pop all your CDs. However, I have seen a lot of warriors using DR after the CS window too. Both ways work, it all depends on how confident your tank is of keeping aggro.

-Rage

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First off thanks for the guide! I love the advice. It is written in warrior speak and easy to understand and apply. I have been raiding as Arms and I am trying to transition into Fury. I prefer Arms but to help my guild, I need to be able to take the next step and max out my deeps as SMF or TG, depending on weapon drops. This guide is a great starting point for learning the rotations and what to do and not do. Thanks again!

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Updated (a bit late I admit) with 5.3 stat priority and trinket list.

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Switching weapons puts the Single Minded Fury passive ability on a 30 seconds internal cooldown.

Do you know if equipping a shield in the offhand slot (through a macro in order to pop Shield Wall) triggers this?

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I don't think so, but I'll check tomorrow -- going to bed right now. I'll give you an answer as soon as I know.

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I don't think so, but I'll check tomorrow -- going to bed right now. I'll give you an answer as soon as I know.

Nevermind, silly question, I just checked - it does not!

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I was wondering if you would have any recommendations on how to macro Bloodthirst /heroic strike together if possible and the same for RB an HS

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You should not macro Heroic Strike with any ability, as the use of heroic strike cannot really be predicted.

You only ever want to use HS in 2 situations: First, if you're about to rage-cap and Wild Strike is either free (procced) or currently on cooldown. Second: During Colossus Smash, as much as your rage allows. So your HS usage depends very much on how current rage level and macroing it would not only make its use non-optimal, it would probably even be disruptive to your rotation,

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So what do you think about trinkets? ATM I'm using upgraded Heroic Primo and normal Gaze. I didn't see any Ji-Kun trinkets so far (we killed it 8times in normal and 8 times in HC mode + 16 bonus roll, 0 trinket Posted Image )

Im planning to use hc primo and hc jikun if it drops. or hc gaze is better than hc primo? I think jikun's trinket should be nr 1 but what should be nr2? Posted Image 3% crit always and str procc or str always and crit procc....huge dilemma Posted Image

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It's in the list at the end of the post, but at equivalent ilvls, Gaze is better than Prim, mainly because the buff lasts 20 seconds, and therefore you will be able to carry it into CS even if it procs at an inappropriate time.

Also, proc rate on Prim is low enough that you almost never see past 3 stacks of it.

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thanks for your answer :) maybe I will try both versions and we'll see ;) btw I had lots of times 5 stacks of rampage sometimes it even procced when I had 5, soooooo... I like this trinket :)

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I've looked at my logs just for fun, and in my last 3 raiding night (a bit over 9h total) this trinket stacked to 5 a grand total of 10 times. I don't have the heroic version just yet but still... It's not a *bad* trinket, like Spark is for example, but Gaze is definitely better.

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So what about WS during CS bursts? What's it's priority? Let's say you have a RB proc and a WS proc. RB goes first I suppose? And then you spam WS while also spamming HS and keeping BT on cooldown?

And what if RB procs during the Execution phase? Do I still spam Execute, or can I use the RB in there too?

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Hi Snowcat. Under CS burst you have to use as many spell you can on CS time debuff.

 

So on your example, if you have >= 1 charge of BT & a WS proc, you have to do:

 

CS > ((RB+HS) > (WS + HS) > BT > (WS + HS) > (WS+HS) ...

 

if you have a RB proc on the BT, of course you replace (WS+HS) by a RB + HS

 

Most important is that you arrived on CS time with max rage (120 with glyph) + Enrage (debuff of course)

 

Do not forget to use berserk rage to get RB.

 

You have a lot of different priorities depending on your rage, your proc, your enrage buff

 

PS: You can switch (WS+HS) on rotation if you do not have RB proc by a HeroicLeap under CS debuff. (particulary, if you have many mobs)

 

Hope it will help you.

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You only want to use WS during CS if you don't have a RB charge. RB's Damage is much higher than WS, but in the event where you weren't lucky enough to get enough RBs to fill in your CS, WS is the next best alternative.

 

Keep in mind that a non procced WS costs 30 rage, so if you use one during CS you won't be able to use HS as much.

 

RB becomes a simple filler during Execute phase, so you want to use your charges as soon as they pop, because RB is cheap. During CS you exclusively want to use Execute as it is by far your highest damage ability. Outside of CS, RB takes priority over Execute unless you have 90+ rage.

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I edited the guide with most of the 5.4 changes, and I changed the formatting a bit too, should be easier to read now.

 

I just need to update the BiS trinket list and the guide should be set for 5.4, but for those who are really curious BiS trinkets should be between these 3:

 

inv_jewelry_orgrimmarraid_trinket_11.jpgEvil Eye of Galakras

inv_jewelry_orgrimmarraid_trinket_06.jpgSkeer's Bloodsoaked Talisman

inv_jewelry_orgrimmarraid_trinket_03.jpgThok's Tail Tip

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Preliminary math shows that Evil Eye of Galakras & Thok's Tail Tip should be BiS.

 

Tier 6 Talent should be StormBolt for Titan's Grip, whereas SMF will want to keep bloodbath until we can get our hands on the Galakras trinket.

 

Also added your SoO weapon choices in the OP.

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Ragebarr, thank you for the posts and the early gear evaluation. My PTR testing was inconclusive because it was so difficult to find stable groups running the new raids, so I'll likely be testing both Fury and Arms in 5.4 live to see which I prefer, but this reminds me of the Dragon Soul days, when so many Fury warriors (myself included) switched to Arms for better output.

 

I was rather sad to see the usage of polearms  as the only Fury-specific change in 5.4, and to make matters worse, the only strength polearm in SoO has Haste on it. Oh, the humanity!

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The polearm change is mostly a QoL change, as it didn't make sense to have 2h str weapons unusable by Fury warriors imo. As far as the stats on them, there isn't must you can do, other than hoping for next tiers to have polearms with better stats.

 

As far as the DPS numbers go, I'm really mitigated. In a sense I'm sad that I'll have to go Arms on some fights to be optimal, but on the other hand I'm glad Fury is still viable so I won't have to stay Arms full time.

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      15 Exposed Elements Echo of the Elements Elemental Blast               Earthen Rage 30 Aftershock Master of Elements Totem Mastery       Call the Thunder 45 Spirit Wolf Earth Shield Static Charge         60 High Voltage Storm Elemental Liquid Magma Totem       Master of the Elements 75 Nature's Guardian Ancestral Guidance Wind Rush Totem         90 Earthen Rage Primal Elementalist Icefury       Surge of Power 100 Unlimited Power Stormkeeper Ascendance         I thought someone here should know about these differences because it appears there has been no update recently to your setup.   I know that I personally would appreciate an update so that I can adjust my in-game setup to work better.
    • By Narii625
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    • By Valhalen
      In the Deckard Cain Meta Tier List made by @Oxygen, @MagikMurlok asked if someone could compile a list of Heroes that have strong self-sustain that can be viable in matches that features no Supports. I decided to help.
      I ended making a list of all non-Support Heroes that have any form of self-healing. Took me around 6 hours to compile every single nook and cranny (with all the revisions and edits), so here it is! I hope this help. Any feedback is welcome.
      I've also included a suggested build for each character to use in the event that there is no Support in the team, aimed at maximizing survivability.
      Special thanks to @ExorionAether for the help with talents and Heroes I missed, forgot or did not include originally for other reasons.
      ASSASSINS
      Alarak (suggested build) Lightning Surge provides a powerful sustain, which becomes even stronger with the talent Sustaining Power (1) and Lightning Barrage (16), with the latter allowing Alarak to cast two Lightning Surges in succession, thus doubling its effects.  Cassia (suggested build) Ring of the Leech (4) provides passive self-healing to Cassia when dealing damage to any opponents inflicted with Blind. Any talent that increases Cassia's damage in general will increase the healing gained from this talent. Plate of the Whale (4) provides extra passive life regeneration, as well increasing her maximum health once completed. Falstad (suggested build) Has access to the Hammer Gains (4) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase his Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance. Fenix (suggested build) Fenix is an exception to this list, because while he doesn't feature any talents that replenish his life, his passive Shields from Shield Capacitor pretty much adds an extra layer of sustain. To avoid confusion, I will not be listing similar talents for non-Support Heroes that have access to shielding (Johanna, Zarya, etc.) Rapid Recharge (13) and Auxiliary Shields (13) can both be counted as a form of improved sustain, as they aid in replenishing his Shields Unconquered Spirit grants him a massive boost of shields. Gul'dan (suggested build) Has excellent self-sustain with Drain Life, which is part of his core gameplay interacting with his ability to sap his life to restore mana through Life Tap. Has access to talents such as Consume Soul (4) Healthstone (16) which provides extra self-sustain aside from Drain Life. The Drain Life can be picked to increase its performance, but they often have compete with better talents, so I wouldn't recommend them. However they can work really well in a non-Support composition that features a solid frontline. Illidan (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Betrayer's Thirst provides mindless sustain, as you just have hit stuff to get heals. Has access to talents like Thirsting Blade (7) and Hunter's Onslaught (7) which further improves his self-healing. Talents that increase the damage of Illidan's Ability Damage will increase the healing from Hunter's Onslaught, such as Marked for Death (16) Any talents or buffs that increase his Attack Speed and/or his Basic Attack Damage will improve the performance of Betrayer's Thirst, such as Unending Hatred (1). Kael'thas (suggested build) Fel Infusion (1) heals Kael'thas when activating Verdant Spheres. Not much healing, but hey, it's something! Kel'Thuzad (suggested build) Phylactery of Kel'Thuzad (4) provides passive heal to all his Ability Damage once it's completed. Not much, but it helps. Kerrigan (suggested build) Siphoning Impact (1) rewards precise Ravage kills with heals. Assimilation Mastery (7) provides extra passive health regeneration. Li-Ming (suggested build) Dominance (4) heals Li-Ming whenever a nearby enemy Hero is killed, meaning Li-Ming doesn't have to necessarily land the killing blow to enjoy the self-healing. Lunara (suggested build) Siphoning Toxin (4) provides healing as long the enemy has a stack of Nature's Toxin. Malthael (suggested build) Fantastic self-sustain through Soul Rip as long enemies are affected by Reaper's Mark (which is not hard to do since his Basic Attacks cleave to inflict opponents with this debuff) Soul Collector (13) further improve its healing. Angel of Death (20) provides a powerful healing effect to Last Rites. Mephisto (suggested build) Hateful Mending (4) causes a percentage of Skull Missile's damage to heal Mephisto. This synergizes with Unyielding Power (1), Malicious Intent (1), Abhorred Skull (13) and Lightning Reaction (16). Spite (4) increases the effects of Regeneration Globes. Orphea (suggested build) Overflowing Chaos, her trait, heals Orphea through Basic Attacks based on the stacks of Chaos she acquires whenever damaging enemy Heroes with Basic Attacks. Ancestral Strength (1) increases Chaos generation against opponents under crowd control effects. Invasive Miasma (13) deals area damage and grants Chaos per enemy Hero hit. Dead Magic (16) causes Chaos-infused Basic Attacks to ignore armor, therefore increasing its healing potential. Ravenous Hunger (7) is a repeatable quest (no cap) that increases Chomp's damage in addition to healing Orphea. This synergizes with Lurking Terror (16), which grants Dread a free cast of Chomp. Determination (13) causes Shadow Waltz's dash to grant Orphea Spell Armor, which while active increases her physical damage, therefore also increasing her healing from Overflowing Chaos. Abyssal Symbiosis (13) causes Chomp to grant maximum stacks of Overflowing Chaos whenever it hits enemy heroes. Bond of Anguish (16) causes half of the damage from Shadow Waltz to heal Orphea. Eldritch Conduit (20) increases Orphea's Spell Power per Chaos consumed, which in turn increases the healing from both Ravenous Hunger and Bond of Anguish Ragnaros (suggested build) Empower Sulfuras is a powerful area heal as long you hit as many enemies as possible. This becomes even stronger by taking related talents, such as Sulfuras Hungers (1) and Cauterize Wounds (13). Catching Fire (4) provides extra passive life regeneration. Submerge (20) puts Ragnaros in stasis and heals him. Raynor (suggested build) Adrenaline Rush provides Raynor with a reliable self-sustain, specially since its cooldown is lowered when Raynor hits anything with basic attacks. This effect can be further improved by Give Me More! (16).  Fight or Flight (4) and Fuel The Rush (7) both decrease the cooldown of Adrenaline Rush, therefore allowing Raynor to use it more often. Behemoth Armor increases Raynor's maximum health by a flat amount, and is further increased each time he hits enemies with his trait, Give 'Em Some Pepper, therefore further improving his sustain. Paint Them Red (16) causes Penetrating Round to heal for the same damage dealt when it hits Heroes. Has access to the Sustaining Rounds (4) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase his Attack Speed will increase this talent's performance when hitting with his trait, Give 'Em Some Pepper. The Butcher (suggested build) Butcher's Brand provides a fantastic self-sustain, as long you can hit the Basic Attacks, and its healing becomes stronger the more meat he has. In addition, talents that further increase his Basic Attack and Attack Speed, such as Brutal Strike (13), Blood Frenzy (16), Enraged (16) and Nexus Blades (20), will result in a stronger / faster health-per-hit to branded enemies. Victuals (7) provides a passive heal which is great in maps focused on waveclear, such as Tomb of the Spider Queen. It should be noted that it doesn't work with summoned minions or special minions such as the Zerg Wave from Braxis Holdout. Thrall (suggested build) Frostwolf Resilience provides a strong self-sustain as long Thrall hits opponents with abilities. Just don't spam because Thrall is one of those Heroes that goes mana hungry very very fast. Talents that improve his generation of Frostwolf Resilience stacks include Feral Resilience (4), Grace Of Air (13), Tempest Fury (16) and Wind Rush (20). Frostwolf's Grace (13) provides an extra healing cooldown. Rolling Thunder (1) provides additional sustain by allowing Thrall to heal through Basic Attacks after using Chain Lightning. Ancestral Wrath (7) is a bit of a complex talent as you have to keep track of your Frostwolf Resilience stacks, but provide an instant targeted damage which heals, which is great. Tracer (suggested build) Is That a Health Pack?! (4) increases the healing from Regeneration Globes and Healing Fountains. Has access to the Leeching Rounds (13) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase her Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance. Total Recall (20) essentially heals Tracer as it "undoes" the damage she took when using Recall. This effect can be further improved by Slipstream (20). Tychus (suggested build) Has access to the That's the Stuff! (13) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase his Attack Speed will increase this talent's performance, such as In the Rhythm (4). Valla (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Has access to the Tempered by Discipline (13) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase her Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance. The downside is that she needs to be at maximum stacks of Hatred to gain this effect. Siphoning Arrow (13) provides a life-leech effect to Hungering Arrow. Zeratul (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Has access to the Mending Strikes (13) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase his Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance. Shadow Mending (20) heals Zeratul when he deals ability damage. Any additional talents or buffs that increase his Ability Damage will improve this talent's performance. Zul'jin (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Regeneration restore health, but any damage will interrupt it, unless you pick Forest Medicine (20). Troll's Blood (4) further improve its healing. Amani Resilience and Buzzsaw, both level 20 talents, provides healing effects to Taz'dingo! and Guillotine, respectively.  
      WARRIORS
      Anub'arak (suggested build; suggested scarab build) Regeneration Master (1) provides extra passive life regeneration, as well increased health once completed. Decent life-leech with Locust Swarm, with Hive Master (20) providing a passive life-leech effect. Leeching Scarabs (7) provides self-healing as long his Scarabs deal damage. There is an entire build dedicated to that talent, but it's pretty shitty now (used to be very OP before his rework). Arthas (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Death Coil can be used on Arthas to heal himself. Immortal Coil (7) and Embrace Death further increase its self-healing performance. Army of the Dead provides a reliable self-heal by sacrificing Ghouls, which becomes further stronger with Legion of Northrend (20). Rune Tap provides a passive life-leech, which can become quite strong when combined with Icy Talons (4). Anti-Magic Shell (20) heals Arthas for a small ammount of the damage absorbed. Blaze (suggested build) Oil Spill + Flame Stream provides with one of the strongest self-sustains in the game. Grill and Kill (7) further increase its effects by extending the duration once completed. Heat Treatment (16) is surprisingly strong, specially since it Pyromania provides armor, and the heals are gained when hitting any type of enemy (including minions). Chen (suggested build) Freshest Ingredients (1) provides passive extra life regeneration. Brewmaster's Balance (7) provides passive extra life regeneration as long Chen has 50 Brew or more. Stormstout Secret Recipe provides passive life-leech whenever Chen deals damage with his Basic Abilities. Cho (suggested build; suggested Gall build) Consuming Blaze provides a fantastic self-sustain, with two related talents at level 1 that provide strong effects, being Consuming Fire and Fuel for the Flame. Surging Dash (16) heals Cho'gall as long Surging Fist is being channelled. Dehaka (suggested build) Absurdly strong self-sustain through Essence Collection and Adaptation. Tissue Regeneration (1) provides more essence, which translates in more healing. It also adds passive extra life regeneration. One-Who-Collects (4) and Hero Stalker (4) both provide additional means of getting essence, therefore allowing Dehaka to self-sustain himself faster. Essence Claws (20) provides additional essence as long Dehaka Basic Attacks Heroes. Buffs that increases his Attack Speed further improve his essence gathering. Change Is Survival (20) further boosts the healing from Adaptation. Diablo (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Diablo by default has a powerful self-sustain as his health progressively increases as he gathers souls for Black Soulstone. After his rework, Diablo has gained a very strong self-sustain, with Fire Stomp now being a skillshot and healing per enemy hit, with more healing when the flames come back at Diablo. Souls to the Flame (4) increases the healing effect, while Hellfire (13) increases spellpower per enemy hit (which translates in more healing). Eternal Flames (7) reset the cooldown of Fire Stomp whenever Diablo stuns a Hero with Shadow Charge (meaning hitting the enemy against a wall) or Overpower. Life Leech (4) provides passive healing as long Diablo Basic Attacks an enemy Hero. This can be further improved through Cruelty (13), which increases his attack speed, translating in more heal-per-hit. Feast on Fear (1) heals Diablo whenever he stuns opponents with Shadow Charge or Overpower. This effect stacks. Domination (16) resets the cooldown of Shadow Charge whenever Diablo uses Overpower, thus triggering Feast on Fear an additional time if Diablo hits the opponent against a wall. Overpowering Nightmare grants 2 additional charges of Overpower, meaning more triggers of Feast on Fear. Devil's Due (1) provides Diablo with one of the strongest self-healings in the game. Since Regeneration Globes become neutral after 3 seconds and can be claimed by either team, this essentially doubles his self-sustain (including mana regeneration). Lord of Terror siphons the life of nearby Heroes, which can heal Diablo for a lot if he is surrounded by enemies. ETC (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Guitar Solo is a reliable self-sustain ability on low cooldown. Can be further improved by Guitar Hero (1) and Prog Rock (1). Hammer-on (7) has good synergy with Guitar Hero. Garrosh (suggested build) Bloodthirst provides Garrosh with a very strong self-sustain, specially when combined with his natural resilience from Armor Up. In For the Kill (4) provides Garrosh with lots of sustain in the laning phase and while killing minions because of the resets and mana refund. This can be further improved by Bloodcraze (13).  Johanna (suggested build) Laws of Hope provides an Active Ability that can save Johanna from some nasty situations. Holy Renewal can heal for quite a lot if Johanna manages to hit 3 Heroes or more. Leoric (suggested physical build; suggested ability build) Very strong self-healing through Drain Hope, specially against opponents with low movement options. This healing can be further improved through Willing Vessel (7). March of the Black King heals Leoric per Hero hit. Ossein Renewal (1) provides an Active Ability similarly to Johanna Laws of Hope, but on a higher cooldown (however this can recharge faster by picking Regeneration Globes). Consume Vitality (1) heals Leoric whenever he hits Heroes with Skeletal Swing. Fealty Unto Death (1) passively heals Leoric whenever minions die nearby him (either friendly or enemy). Spectral Leech (20) provides passive healing as long Leoric Basic Attacks an enemy Hero. This can be further improved by Mithril Mace (16), specially once completed. Mal'ganis (suggested build) Passive healing from Vampiric Touch, his trait, which grants Mal'ganis one of the best self-sustains in the entire game. Vampiric Aura (1) provides further bonus healing, as well granting nearby allies with life-leech as well. Time to Feed (1) provides an extra layer of bonus healing whenever Mal'ganis deals damage to enemy Heroes. Fueled by Torment (4) causes Mal'ganis to be healed after taking damage while Necrotic Embrace is active, and also increases the effects of Vampiric Touch. Black Claws (7) causes Mal'ganis to get extra healing from his next Basic Attack after hitting an enemy Hero with Fel Claws. Will of Tichondrius (7) causes Fel Claws (Third Strike) to heal percentage damage based on the enemy's maximum health. Carrion Swarm (10) renders Mal'ganis invulnerable, while damaging opponents and healing him. Dark Conversion (10) swaps Mal'ganis and the enemy target health percentage. Frenzied Assault (16) increases Mal'ganis attack speed whenever he Basic Attack an enemy with higher health percentage, which increases the effectiveness of Vampiric Touch. Blind as a Bat (16) temporarily removes the cooldown from Fel Claws, which increases the effectiveness of Vampiric Touch. Vanquish the Weak (20) causes Fel Claws and Basic Attacks to slow enemy Heroes, while increasing the effects of Vampiric Touch against slowed Heroes. Muradin (suggested build) Very powerful out of combat healing thanks to Second Wind. This can be further improved through Third Wind (1) and Stoneform (16), with the later allowing Muradin to activate his trait to gain healing effects in-battle. Avatar, in a sense, can be considered a healing ability as it increases Muradin maximum health for a limited time. Healing Static (13) provides a healing effect to Thunder Clap as long it hits Heroes. Rexxar (suggested build) Hungry Bear (4) provides life-leech to Misha. Hunter-Gatherer (4) provides extra passive life regeneration to Rexxar. Animal Husbandry (4) essentially allows Rexxar and Misha to reach infinite health points as long Rexxar remains alive. Spirit Bond (20) provides Bestial Wrath with a life-leeching effect where Misha's Basic Attacks heals Rexxar. Sonya (suggested physical build; suggested ability build)  Very strong self-sustain through Whirlwind. This can be further improved by Life Funnel (7) and Wrath of the Berserker (as more damage equals to more healing). Has access to the War Paint (1) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase her Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance. Battle Rage (7) provides an Active Ability that heals Sonya. Stitches (suggested build) Devour is a very powerful self-sustain ability. Can be improved by Chew Your Food (1). Hungry for More increases Stitches' maximum health, therefore increasing the healing from Devour. Amplified Healing (4) increases all healing Stitches recieves, with includes Devour. Savor the Flavor (4) permanently increases Stitches health regeneration when he uses Devour on enemy Heroes. Restorative Fumes (4) causes Vile Gas to heal Stitches. Cannibalize (20) provides passive healing as long Stitches Basic Attacks an enemy Hero. This effect becomes even stronger with Hungry for More, as more health equals to more healing. Tyrael (suggested build) Ardent Restoration (1) provides Tyrael with passive healing as long he deals any form of damage to enemy Heroes. Divine Vigor (4) allows Tyrael's Basic Attacks to heal him after he hits enemies with Smite. It synergises well with Purge Evil (7), Smite the Wicked (16) and Seal of El'Druin (20), as they all improve Tyrael's Basic Attacks, therefore increasing the healing gained. Varian (suggested Protection build; suggested Arms build; suggested Fury build) Lion's Fang naturally heals Varian whenever he hits any opponent (including minions). Can be further improved by Lionheart (7). Second Wind (7) and Victory Rush (7) both provide passive healing as long Varian Basic Attacks anything, with the latter healing for a huge amount, but having a cooldown. Second Wind is improved by High King's Quest (1) and all of Varian's passive effects of his Heroic Abilities. Glory to the Alliance (20) causes banners to increase all healing effects, which includes all the aforementioned talents and abilities above that provide Varian with self-healing. Yrel Vindication deals damage and heals Yrel in return. Light of Karabor (1) increases Vindication radius, as well bonus healing per enemy Hero hit. Ardent Defender heals Yrel for half of the damage absorbed. Word of Glory (20) causes Ardent Defender to heal all nearby allies for the damage Yrel absorbed. Maraad's Insight (1) causes Yrel's next Basic Attack to heal whenever she uses a Basic Ability. Gift of the Naaru (4) causes Divine Purpose to heal an ally nearby Yrel.  
      SPECIALISTS
      Abathur (suggested build) Abathur is an exception to this list as he cannot self heal with his related talents below, since he cannot use Symbiote on himself. Regenerative Microbes (1) causes the Symbiote's Carapace to heal the host. Soma Transference (13) causes the Symbiote's Spike Burst to heal the host when hitting enemy Heroes. Azmodan (suggested build) Cydaea's Kiss (13) causes All Shall Burn to heal if it channels completely. Can be further improved by Sin's Grasp (16), as it increases its range and reduces the cooldown if fully channeled.. Gazlowe (suggested build) Goblin Repairs (1) provides extra passive life regeneration. Medivh (suggested build) Force of Will heals damage absorbed. This can be further improved by Circle of Protection (13) or Reabsorption (13). Raven's Intellect (1) provides extra passive life regeneration. Murky (suggested build) Rejuvenating Bubble (13) heals Murky whenever he uses Safety Bubble. This can be further improved by Big Tuna Kahuna as more health equals to more healing. Fish Tank (13) heals Murky whenever he deals damage with Basic Attacks and Basic Abilities. Nazeebo (suggested build) Hexed Crawlers (4) causes Corpse Spiders to heal Nazeebo. Blood Ritual (4) heal Nazeebo whenever he gains stacks of Voodoo Ritual. Both talents above scale progressively as Nazeebo gains more stacks of Voodoo Ritual. Sgt. Hammer (suggested build) Has access to the Regenerative Bio-Steel (4) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase her Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance while in Siege Mode. Sylvanas (suggested build) Life Drain (13) causes Shadow Dagger to heal Sylvanas each time it spreads to an enemy. The Lost Vikings (suggested build) Has access to the Pain Don't Hurt (4) talent, meaning that any additional talents or buffs that increase Baleog Attack Speed and Basic Attack Damage will increase this talent's performance. Erik the Swift heals Erik as long he is moving. Play Again! fully heals the Vikings. Xul (suggested physical build; suggested Skeleton build) Harvest Vitality (7) causes Cursed Strikes to heal Xul whener it hits enemy Heroes. This can be further improved through Grim Scythe (4) and Rapid Harvest (13) or Executioner (13). Trag'Oul's Essence (7) causes Skeleton Warriors to heal Xul whenever they deal damage. Andariel's Visage (20) causes Poison Nova to heal Xul for half the damage dealt. Zagara (suggested build) Nydus Network heals Zagara as long she is inside it. Hydralisk Transfusion (13) heals Zagara as long Hunter Killer deals damage to enemy Heroes. This talent does NOT benefit from Corrosive Saliva (16) bonus damage or the bouncing attacks from Mutalisk (16).  
      TOP 10 BEST PUBSTOMPERS WITHOUT SUPPORT AID
      Fenix: as long his Shield doesn't drop completely, he has one of the most powerful lane presences in the game, essentially having two healthbars. And if losing his Shields he can simply retreat and let them replenish again. Just be careful with hard engages, stuns and damage-over-time (as each tick will put Shield Capacitor on cooldown). Malthael: ridiculous sustain that allows him to 1v2 or even 1v3 under the right circumstances. Make sure to hit as many opponents as possible with Basic Attacks to maximize his sustain. Dehaka: incredibly sticky and slippery, with a global presence that allows him to engage and disengage at ease. His trait combined with Adaptation makes him really hard to kill. Blaze: powerful lane presence and one of the best self-sustains in the entire game. Diablo: his recent rework made him absurdly resilient, with a self-sustain that can surpass Blaze's under the right circumstances. Sonya: still one of the strongest solo laners in the game, with reliable self-sustain, great damage overall, and strong engage potential. The Butcher: with a high risk, high reward gameplay style, he can become unkillable, but requires a really strong frontline to keep him well protected, as well at least one backline Hero that can harass enemies at long range. Medivh: a Support labelled as a Specialist. With a very versatile kit, he can provide damage, mobility, vision, crowd-control and most importantly, damage immunity and healing. ANY team without a Support greatly benefits from Medivh. Thrall: very strong on really long matches, as his most powerful quest talents require a lot of farming. At the endgame he deal eye-watering damage while healing for huge chunks of health. Illidan: with his passive healing, he is a no-brainer. He can easily harass the backline and disengage, forcing the enemy team to waste cooldowns and allow the allied team to retaliate.  
      THE TOP 5 BEST SELF-SUSTAIN TEAM COMBINATIONS
      Disclaimer: every team here will feature Medivh, as he is essentially a Support. Adding him almost feels like cheating, but everyone knows that Medivh Cheats!!!
      Stitches, Sonya, Kel'Thuzad, Kael'thas, Medivh. Garrosh, Stitches, The Butcher, Kel'Thuzad, Medivh. ETC, Blaze, Fenix, Kel'Thuzad, Medivh. Johanna, Cassia, Raynor, Fenix, Medivh. Johanna, Blaze, Sgt. Hammer, Li-Ming, Medivh.
    • By Purplespirk
      I am new to mmos and I was playing an Arcane Mage but my fiance said frost mages are better so I am trying to learn how to play it and I have watched videos and gone over the icy viens information but it is still very confusing for me. I know this sounds bad but can anyone like dumb it down or like comment simpler instructions right now i am going off this attachment i made based of some advice and off of icy viens and i am only doing 4152 dps total so I am not sure if this is low or not but I am already level 120 right now 
      https://gyazo.com/4130f71f1790c7b25a8dd3d23cb4f388
    • By Chumani
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