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I think for precasting lavaburst before flame shock you must be at as far as to the target to attack it.Then flame shock arrives before lava burst,any other range doesn't seem to be enough to be a critical strike of lava burst

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As far as I understood the changes, this is not the reason why you precast Lavaburst.

Lavaburst creates more Maelstrom so that the duration of the flameshock is longer compared to a precasted lightning bolt.

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Guest Guest Shammy

Very useful guide, well done. Is there any indication whether there is an advantage using a staff rather than 1h + shield?

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On 8/19/2016 at 7:18 AM, Guest Guest Shammy said:

Very useful guide, well done. Is there any indication whether there is an advantage using a staff rather than 1h + shield?

There isn't, just item level/stats. Generally staves are easier to obtain.

 

On 8/14/2016 at 0:51 AM, Guest derv said:

a friend gave me this. what is your opinion about it? (artifact talent tree path) 

http://imgur.com/a/9S9Xa

Will be included in the Legion guide arriving shortly with some included commentary on individual traits and their importance.

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Working up my rotations in TellMeWhen, and I realized that Totem Mastery is not mentioned at all in the rotations. It's kind of late to bother, but whereabouts does it fall in terms of importance?

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I see that Ele Shamans are doing very poor with DPS, on Recount I am always at the bottom of the list with some decent gear and using rotations and CDs as applied... Every other DPS character I own surpasses the ELE Shaman by far...Is there any advice in how to tweak things to run this toon smoother and put out Higher DPS? I know I am asking a question that is hard to answer but were does anyone else stand on this subject?

Thanks

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11 hours ago, Guest Redima said:

I see that Ele Shamans are doing very poor with DPS, on Recount I am always at the bottom of the list with some decent gear and using rotations and CDs as applied... Every other DPS character I own surpasses the ELE Shaman by far...Is there any advice in how to tweak things to run this toon smoother and put out Higher DPS? I know I am asking a question that is hard to answer but were does anyone else stand on this subject?

Thanks

It's a pre-patch... abilities are whack. I'd just suggest patience; see how it comes together at 110 with the artifact weapons. And a couple of tuning patches.

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Thanks for updating the guide. You wanted to put some racial sims into it. Any thoughts on which race for the horde will do exceptional well?

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On 8/29/2016 at 1:58 PM, checkmate said:

Thanks for updating the guide. You wanted to put some racial sims into it. Any thoughts on which race for the horde will do exceptional well?

All the Horde races are quite good except for Goblin.

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2 hours ago, Guest nimet said:

can we have the stat weights pls?? 

When I have something accurate to provide, of course! Right now it's a little murky ... hopefully later this week

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Right now it's a little murky

is there a chance that the stat values going to change later on?

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On 9/3/2016 at 3:03 AM, Guest nimet said:

is there a chance that the stat values going to change later on?

The values themselves, most definitely, but the general priority itself is unlikely to shift barring changes to the class itself.

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Hi Furty,

maybe it is too much I am asking for, but I am currently a bit irritated.

This is my arsenal link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/blackhand/Anatoly/simple

My initial talent choice was TM + AS + PE + EM + Asc. Both leveling and doing heroics felt horribly disappointing, it felt very painful.

Then I rechecked Binkensteins guide on Wowhead and he more or less recommends the same talent build like you did:

TM + AS + PE + EM + ASC

Binkenstein calls this the crit-build and says "This crit build is the "best" from a min/max viewpoint, but focuses heavily on getting as much critical strike rating as possible". Stat priority is int > crit (7.2) > haste (6.8) = versatility (6.8) > mastery (5.4)

Then I saw that Binkenstein gave an alternative with a mastery-build:

PoF + Echo + EF + EM + Asc

He says:" The Mastery build isn't the min/maxing best, but has a broader stat distribution plus an important quality of life talent (Echo)". He gives the following stat priority with int > haste (7.2) > versatility (6.8) > mastery (6.5) > crit (5.6).

 

Now comes what causes my concerns.:

Though having many crit-items my dps in heroics is very bad with this crit-build. During trash I am almost always the worst dps, during boss fight cause of my burst I am more or less ok.

Then I tried Binkensteins "mastery-build" and the sun began to shine again. I am doing wonderful both @trash and @boss fights.

Lavasurge is proccing non stop so that even in solo play and world questing this mastery builds feels so much superior to the crit-build.

Now my question is: From which item level on will the crit-build be indeed better than the mastery build? I am currently 839 and should I still collect crit-items

 

Greetings

Checkmate

 

 

 

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Hi there!

Thank you for the great, thorough guide, Furty! I like that you also explain about each spells/talents and their ups/downs. I do not know if this was mentioned or not, but I found that Elemental Blast and Icefury are also affected by mastery. I tried playing around EB and noticed that when mastery does proc, the spell gives me another buff; it could potential have all 3 stat buffs at one cast. I was wondering what you think of it?

Edited by Kerrsh
Awkward wording.

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48 minutes ago, Kerrsh said:

Hi there!

Thank you for the great, thorough guide, Furty! I like that you also explain about each spells/talents and their ups/downs. I do not know if this was mentioned or not, but I found that Elemental Blast and Icefury are also affected by mastery. I tried playing around EB and noticed that when mastery does proc, the spell gives me another buff; it could potential have all 3 stat buffs at one cast. I was wondering what you think of it?

It isn't directly mentioned in the guide but is accounted for with the respective talent & stat evaluations!

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7 hours ago, Furty said:

It isn't directly mentioned in the guide but is accounted for with the respective talent & stat evaluations!

Ah, thank you for the fast response as well as clarifying!

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Guest marrzta

Dont know if my previous post got in

Question about haste cap.

I am at 32% haste now and my reduced cast time is stuck on 1.5 sec.

If it worth to stack more haste now ? Have I reached a cap for it ?

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Hey marrzta sorry we have to manually approve so can take a few minutes?  Not sure on your haste question (although I'm interested in the answer with me maining ele shammy this time round!)

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2 minutes ago, Peelyon said:

Hey marrzta sorry we have to manually approve so can take a few minutes?  Not sure on your haste question (although I'm interested in the answer with me maining ele shammy this time round!)

 

thanks for the quick reply.

Do you know what more benefits we get from haste  ?

`What i know now is ticks for flame shock, the global cd and cast time.

 

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I'm useless as a theory crafter / stat mod :P I'm only here for gold making!  Fingers crossed someone more knowledgable will be along soon

 

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On 9/10/2016 at 6:31 PM, Peelyon said:

I'm useless as a theory crafter / stat mod :P I'm only here for gold making!  Fingers crossed someone more knowledgable will be along soon

 

You ideally don't want to "stack" Haste at all, but you should be fine to continue to acquire the stat. 

13 hours ago, checkmate said:

In the BIS-Section is a minor mistake as you gave a leather  wrist. You probably mean the wrists from Xavius

Thanks for the catch.

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Path of Flame evaluation is wrong. If you Lava Burst on a target with Flameshock, it spreads the Flameshock which is actually very useful in dungeons.

Nothing to do with Lava Surge.

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