Jump to content
FORUMS
Damien

Fury Warrior 7.3

Recommended Posts

Guest Cortic

From my understanding (based on the discussion presented in the theory crafting forums), Execute was to be avoided until we had artefact weapon w/ Juggernaut talented (Or Massacre talented). Is this not the case anymore? Or is it worth using pre-patch but not in Legion until those criteria are filled?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Guest Cortic said:

From my understanding (based on the discussion presented in the theory crafting forums), Execute was to be avoided until we had artefact weapon w/ Juggernaut talented (Or Massacre talented). Is this not the case anymore? Or is it worth using pre-patch but not in Legion until those criteria are filled?

Execute is worth the cast if Enraged, unless that condition is met though it's not. It's DPC/DPR is very high, but it takes away from Rage that could be spent on Rampage for increased Enrage uptime which extends into losing out on Rage from reduced auto speed, so it needs to be used more sparingly in the pre-patch/without Massacre.

Edited by wordup

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Darph

is the haste stat priority a typo ?? 

 

  1. Haste to 38%~ (18%~ without class trinket);

with 

Note that Worldbreaker's Resolve Icon Worldbreaker's Resolve is still a significant factor as it reduces the Haste breakpoint by up to 20%, so if you are using this take that into account.

wouldnt it be " Haste to 18% (#8% without trinket) " ??

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Bloodwinger

Thanks you, this guide is really helpful.

Although there is a little mistake in Stat Prio part - it says you need 18% WITHOUT Class Trinket, while it should be WITH it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Cortic

It should read:

~18% haste with trinket 

~38% without trinket

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Bloodwinger

I actually think it's not a typo. It means "you need to have 18% haste without Worldbrealer's Resolve proc." 

 

I'm stupid.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, Guest Darph said:

is the haste stat priority a typo ?? 

 

  1. Haste to 38%~ (18%~ without class trinket);

with 

Note that Worldbreaker's Resolve Icon Worldbreaker's Resolve is still a significant factor as it reduces the Haste breakpoint by up to 20%, so if you are using this take that into account.

wouldnt it be " Haste to 18% (#8% without trinket) " ??

A typo yes, should read (18% with class trinket), will get that fixed up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Zethus

Very helpful guide! Thank you! For some reason it didn't occur to me that Rampage proc'd Enrage..../facepalm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How am I supposed to get the correct stat weights in ask mr robot. it is currently showing Crit>Mast>Haste>Vers as the only option. Is there somewhere I can import them from? Thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just curious, why would you need to be enraged to use Execute? It only increases attack speed and damage taken now, not damage done. Is this outdated or a mistake or is there some reasoning I'm missing behind this?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, ZeusTheWarrior said:

How am I supposed to get the correct stat weights in ask mr robot. it is currently showing Crit>Mast>Haste>Vers as the only option. Is there somewhere I can import them from? Thanks!

You can edit the weights manually, but this requires the actual stat weight values. 

47 minutes ago, ORCSMASH said:

Just curious, why would you need to be enraged to use Execute? It only increases attack speed and damage taken now, not damage done. Is this outdated or a mistake or is there some reasoning I'm missing behind this?

Mastery for Fury gives +%-damage when enraged.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, Blainie said:

You can edit the weights manually, but this requires the actual stat weight values. 

Mastery for Fury gives +%-damage when enraged.

And where can I find the actual stat weight values?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Munch

Another macro I like to use is

#showtooltip
/startattack
/cast {some offensive spell}

I replace most of my offensive spells with this (Bloodthirst, Charge, Furious Slash, Raging Blow).  It ensures that you don't stand around with your auto attack disabled, not generating rage.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Rufio

Any reason why rampage should be used at 100 rage as appose to 85+ or 70+ rage with carnage talent

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Guest Rufio said:

Any reason why rampage should be used at 100 rage as appose to 85+ or 70+ rage with carnage talent

You only use it at 100 if you're already Enraged, otherwise you use it as available.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Ofunearth

Within a 4 second enrage window, ignoring Rampage and assuming our haste is where it should be, how many RB can we expect to fit in? I've been doing 1 RB and 2 FS'. If I spec for Wrecking Ball, I still only get in one RB and a few WW (I think 2 again). 

Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, Guest Ofunearth said:

Within a 4 second enrage window, ignoring Rampage and assuming our haste is where it should be, how many RB can we expect to fit in? I've been doing 1 RB and 2 FS'. If I spec for Wrecking Ball, I still only get in one RB and a few WW (I think 2 again). 

Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong?

Depending on your Haste level you will only be able to fit in 3 globals following a BT (potentially also following a Rampage but that is more strict) so any mixture of RB, WW or FS in that window that follows the priority list is ideal and pretty standard, yes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Ofunearth
6 hours ago, wordup said:

Depending on your Haste level you will only be able to fit in 3 globals following a BT (potentially also following a Rampage but that is more strict) so any mixture of RB, WW or FS in that window that follows the priority list is ideal and pretty standard, yes.

Cool, thanks for the info. Another question -- I currently have Battle Cry macroed to Rampage when I'm not using Bladestorm to ensure my Rampages hit like a truck whenever Battle Cry is up. Do you see any downsides to this, beyond accidentally using just before Avatar or LegRing are up?

Per the guide, it looks like we should avoid clipping BT proc'd Enrages with Rampage Enrages (unless at max rage). Would you clarify on how important it is to not clip Enrages?

Also, why are the critical strike weapon enchants recommended over mastery ones? Seems contrary for us to have a 30% critical strike breakpoint, and then to have random bursts of high critical strike. Is mastery no longer super strong because of Inner Rage providing a set 100% boost to RB, Enraged or not?

Also, concerning Inner Rage vs. Bloodbath, do you see BB beating IR single target as gear scales or will IR stay the best single tar skill?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the amount of questions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Guest Ofunearth said:

Cool, thanks for the info. Another question -- I currently have Battle Cry macroed to Rampage when I'm not using Bladestorm to ensure my Rampages hit like a truck whenever Battle Cry is up. Do you see any downsides to this, beyond accidentally using just before Avatar or LegRing are up?

Per the guide, it looks like we should avoid clipping BT proc'd Enrages with Rampage Enrages (unless at max rage). Would you clarify on how important it is to not clip Enrages?

Also, why are the critical strike weapon enchants recommended over mastery ones? Seems contrary for us to have a 30% critical strike breakpoint, and then to have random bursts of high critical strike. Is mastery no longer super strong because of Inner Rage providing a set 100% boost to RB, Enraged or not?

Also, concerning Inner Rage vs. Bloodbath, do you see BB beating IR single target as gear scales or will IR stay the best single tar skill?

Thanks in advance and sorry for the amount of questions.

No problem questions are always interesting!

I'd advise against macroing into Rampage largely because you lose out on the benefit of the guaranteed Bloodthirst Enrage if you use it prior to that, which is a hasted GCD which Rampage is not.

Clipping Enrage is only a negative if you're clipping it with Rampage without the risk of losing Rage. Given that Bloodthirst's Enrage factor is tied to CD instead of resource, keeping it on CD will net more Enrage given you're effectively limited by RNG on whether or not it actually crits; but clipping a BT Enrage with Rampage is perfectly fine if there's prospective Rage wastage by holding it, since Rage gen amps up so much while Enraged.

Critical Strike weapon enchants win out simply because they have the best proc mechanic (being the refreshable buff). Crit and Mastery aren't massively different in value, but the difference of Thunderlord having such a superior mechanic to its procs makes it more worthwhile.

I'd have reservations about BB outdoing IR simply because IR has such a profound impact on frontloading Raging Blow damage during Enrage, and the added effect of effectively condensing two RB casts into one from the damage boost and freeing up more liberal GCD management during Enrage instead of forcing RB-RB-RB is a big advantage.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, Keriam said:

IS there a bis race for War fury ? Troll for haste ?

As always with racials the differences are incredibly marginal, but Troll and Orc will both serve well with frontloaded CDs that sync with baseline tools.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there,

Thanks for the guide, it's been supremely helpful in getting me back to playing Fury at a high level.

I'm seeking a little bit of advice on trinkets right now (as I just got back to the game after about 1.5yr break) and am wondering if you might be able to advise me on which two to go with.

Available to me I have the normal 715ilvl WBR/740ilvl Chipped Soul Prism/Gronntooth War Horn/705ilvl Spores of Alacrity

My unbuffed stats are:

Str: 5941 / Crit: 27.68% / Haste 17.13% / Mastery 34.54%

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Ravewave said:

Hey there,

Thanks for the guide, it's been supremely helpful in getting me back to playing Fury at a high level.

I'm seeking a little bit of advice on trinkets right now (as I just got back to the game after about 1.5yr break) and am wondering if you might be able to advise me on which two to go with.

Available to me I have the normal 715ilvl WBR/740ilvl Chipped Soul Prism/Gronntooth War Horn/705ilvl Spores of Alacrity

My unbuffed stats are:

Str: 5941 / Crit: 27.68% / Haste 17.13% / Mastery 34.54%

In that specific situation I'd lean to Class Trinket + Chipped Soul Prism in pretty much all situations.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Starym
      We've already seen Blizzard's official April Fools, uh, I mean patch 8.8.8 notes, so now it's time to take a look at what the community has created for this special day. Let's start off with the WoW reddit itself, as it got slightly reforged, with the header being distorted (and asking you to activate Windows), and the font changed to comic sans.

      Then it's on to fan creations, with two solid videos, starting with an epic Shadowlands login screen presentation.
       
      (Source 1, source 2)
      This next one is a weird one, but let's not think about it too much and just enjoy Sarguini:


      Method actually had one of the best entries today, as their "joke" actually sounds not only plausible, but is seemingly inevitable at some point in the future:
      That one actually scares me as I seriously think it's going to happen. I suppose I'd better get ready for Method 2 get the World First, as Limit 5 are 10% away from a kill, just ahead of Methods 1 and 3 and Limits 2 and 58.
      And we'll finish with the biggest one, which was done by WoWhead, who had some detailed info from the "8.3.5 PTR".
      They also had some cosmetics related to the Gift of N'Zoth, including Pepe and a whole bunch of tentacles,  but the big one was the summer mounts!
        
      And as a bonus, here are some Overwatch in-game googly eyes!
       
      I probably/definitely missed a bunch, so post your favorites in the comments, they don't even have to be WoW related!
    • By Starym
      Here come the traditional April Fools patch notes! This time it's patch 8.8.8, so Ion was correct in that we won't have 8.3.5 and are jumping a bit ahead! There's a whole lot new coming... some day... as we get Terrific Visions, new allied races in Mechatauren, High Dwarves and Kul Tiran Worgen, new M+ affixes, essences, micro-holidays, new flavors of Classic and a whole lot of (very serious) class changes!
      Patch notes (source)
      World of Warcraft Patch 8.8.8 Build 88888 WORK IN PROGRESS
       
      April 1, 2020
      Tech writer note – looking for edits from all producers and team leads here. Please get back to us by EOD tomorrow, and please don’t leak this doc like one of you leaked all the new professions. Oof.
      NEW FEATURES
      TERRIFIC VISIONS
      Now that N’Zoth is vanquished and all of Azeroth’s problems are solved forever, players will delve into future-looking scenarios that offer a new way of helping Azeroth’s champions see past the old god. With LACEC (Light Assisted Corruption Eradication Conversion), you’ll use Titan technology to step into a look at what the future might hold after everyone stops fighting.
      In Terrific Visions, you’ll keep an eye on your Vanity meter while enjoying all that life has to offer. If your Vanity runs out, you’ll be forced to read Torn Pages from N’Zoth’s Diary. For example:
      I am an Old God in this lonely city.
      I think about sad things; no one calls me pretty.
      “My name is N’Zoth” I scrawled over there.
      I never meant for ME to feel this despair.
      NEW ALLIED RACES
      HIGH DWARVES
      The long wait is finally over, and the much-requested High Dwarves are finally coming to Azeroth. There’s not really more to say about the glory of the High Dwarves that hasn’t already been said in the General Discussion forum.
      MECHATAUREN
      Moooove over, all you Horde races who are cursed with flesh. We’re about to raise the steaks on the udderly fantastic notion of Tauren+mechanical bioengineering. Don’t worry, we wouldn’t steer you wrong.
      KUL TIRAN WORGEN

      HIGHMOUNTAIN GOBLIN

      NEW MYTHIC KEYSTONE DUNGEON AFFIXES
      New affix: Legit Questioning – Within 3-5 minutes of each boss kill, 30 to 50 feral hogs run into your dungeon. How do you kill them?
      New affix: Tub Thumping – With each pull, you get knocked down. But don’t worry—you’ll get up again. We’re never gonna keep you down.
      NEW ESSENCE
      Now, the most-accomplished and powerful players – those who do a significant amount of pet battling every single day for many consecutive days – can obtain Vision of Furrpection .
      Major Power – Reflects all incoming damage. This effect scales with the number of max-level battle pets you have in your collection, to a maximum duration of 30 seconds, with a 60 second cooldown.
      Minor Power– You enter stealth after standing still for 2 seconds. Thereafter, moving does not break stealth.
      Developers’ note: We haven’t yet completed our tuning pass on this Essence, but we wanted to get it into players’ hands as soon as possible. We’re really looking forward to seeing if players find a use for it.
      NEW MICRO-HOLIDAY: MOTHER’S DAY
      She’s cared for you through so many difficulties. Now, it’s your turn to show your appreciation for her. Please make a note on the in-game calendar and actually show up for this easy quest chain. You only have to do it once per year, and it means so much to MOTHER.
      NEW MICRO-HOLIDAY: MAGNI-FICENT TRAVELS
      For one day only, Magni is just going to go wherever he wants and it’s up to you to find your own way there. Magni might lead you to visit your bodyguard in Nazjatar who’s kind of lonely now. He might want to go pull some pranks. When you finally get to him, have fun! Set the Stormwind Park back on fire or something.
      CHANGES
      CORRUPTION EFFECTS
      Infinite Stars has to be renamed, because every time we reduce Infinite Stars by 20%, we’re left with Infinite Stars. Even just pondering it gives us headaches. How about “Many Countable Stars”?
      Echoing Void no longer sounds like a car alarm between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. when people are trying to sleep over here!
      Ineffable Truth can’t be changed.
      Twisted Appendage has been given an additional twin tentacle: Twisted Sister.
      Gushing Wound has been reduced to gush 20% less than it gushed before.
      ESSENCES
      Worldvein Resonance now hurts your ears 20% less.
      Memory of Lucid Dreams is now 10% more memorable.
      Conflict and Strife is now only obtainable through Fishing.
      Vitality Conduit now yells at you in the voice of Shia LaBeouf to “Just Duit!!”
      Vision of Furrpection has been renamed and is now called Furrification Protocollar.
      MISCELLANEOUS CHANGES
      After receiving a great amount of negative sentiment having something to do with the Big Love Rocket mount, we’ve decided to make the Big Love Rocket mount 50% larger, and give it a 200% speed boost. Thank you for your feedback.
      Tortollan scribes are so very tired of watching you stumble around, that their standards have been lowered by 90%. Draw whatever shape you want. Go nuts. Just finish and get out of here.
      All bells have been removed from the game. We’re not sure why, but some raccoon showed up, said something about a house, and ran off with them.
      Essence of Fire, Essence of Water, Essence of Earth, and Essence of Undeath are no longer account-wide.
      CLASSES
      Death Knight
      Death Grip never really did what it says and cause death, rather than mere inconvenience to the target, so Death Grip has been renamed Tug Throat.
      Now that everyone is a Death Knight, we’ve added a new Death Knight ability: Directory – activate to hold up a chart that you can compare other players to, in order to figure out what race they are.
      Demon Hunter
      New ranged DPS spec: Tizzy. With a Tizzy DH, you’ll still jump around and make funny noises like there’s a bee on you, but you’ll do it from 40 yards away.
      Eye Beam has been given those new high-intensity bulbs, and now blinds everyone in front of you for miles.
      Druid
      Added a new Druid ability: White Claw – disorients you and frustrates your enemies. It shows up everywhere, even though you’ve never once heard anyone say that they like it.
      Shaking a Druid while in Tree of Life form now has a chance to spawn a swarm of angry wasps.
      Hunter
      Beast Mastery Hunters whose pets do 70% or more of the player’s total damage are now given a comfy bench to sit on during fights.
      Freezing Trap is now 30% less effective on targets who keep a sweater at the office.
      Mage
      Mages who say in voices comms that they’re putting down a portal to Boralus, but then it’s actually a portal to Dalaran Crater, are awarded the Achievement “Why Do They Fall For This Every Time?”.
      Blink distance reduced by 50%. You guys really need to tone it down with the Blinking. It’s gotten out of hand. Don’t make us turn this Blink around and go right back where we came from! Stop Blinking! I’ll give you something to Blink about!!
      Monk
      Ironskin Brew and Purifying Brew are now noticeably less hoppy than they were a few years ago during the hops craze.
      New Mastery: Savasana. All Monks have transcended to an elevated state of being, where the answers to all problems are beyond the need for violence. Monk characters are prevented from casting any damage-dealing abilities or using any attacks whatsoever. Namaste.
      Paladin
      Lay on Hands no longer causes your hands to get all tingly and numb and then you wake up and shake them and they feel so weird.
      Divine Steed updated to look less like you’re just running away from a fight, except when followed by the use of Divine Shield and Hearthstone.
      Priest
      Xal’atath, Blade of the Black Empire voicelines updated in the hopes that you’ll start using it again. You used to be so close and nowadays you barely even see each other. Baby please come back.
      Corrected an issue that would occasionally cause Holy Word: Serenity to take the sky from you.
      Rogue
      Rogues who save their Sap can now make it into a nice syrup.
      Rogues who use Cloak of Shadows, Vanish, and Shadowstep in rapid succession now disappear from the game altogether.
      Shaman
      No adjustments needed. Warlock
      Seed of Corruption must now be planted in the correct time of year and moisture, or else it will become Flowerpot of Disappointment.
      Doom duration increased to be a really long time, but not so long that you’d call it eternal.
      Warrior
      Heroic Leap now occasionally ends in a pirouette.
      Pummel now looks even more misspelled if you stare at it.
      WoW CLASSIC
      Following a tremendous amount of feedback, we’re happy to announce that WoW Classic now comes in three new old flavors:
      WoW ORANGE VANILLA
      CHERRY WoW CLASSIC
      DIET DR. CLASSIC
      There are no changes to WoW Classic in this patch.
      Here come the April Fools official patch notes!
    • By Stan
      Jaina Proudmoore drops two Glacial Tidestorms until the release of Shadowlands and there's a Discord community named Jaina's Buddies to help you get the mount.
      The idea of the community is to gather people with high item level to overgear the content and make multiple weekly clearing groups for the mount. Join Jaina's Buddies if you want to get your Glacial Tidestorm before the drop rate is reduced to 1%!
      Glacial Tidestorm
      Though she commands a variety of magical powers, Jaina has always been most proficient at summoning powerful elementals of water and ice.

      Animations (MountSpecial, Run, Fly)

    • By Starym
      Here come this week's first hotfixes, with the already announced Legion legacy loot rules along with some more visual tweaks to dungeons, specifically Ashvane Warden in Tol Dagor.
      March 31 (source)
      Dungeons and Raids
      Ashvane Warden The ground visual for Lockdown should remain visible when Projected Textures is disabled in the System Settings menu. Ashvane Warden The ground visual for Lockdown should remain visible when Projected Textures is disabled in the System Settings menu. Items and Rewards
      Legion Raids and Dungeons [With regional restarts] Legacy loot rules are now in place for Legion raids and dungeons. Developers’ note: Standard encounters drop an amount of loot scaled by the amount of players in the raid, which results in fewer pieces for players who defeated encounters in small groups or as a solo player. In Legacy loot rules, raid and dungeon encounters will drop a fixed quantity of class-agnostic loot, regardless of the group size.
    • By Stan
      This week's bonus event revolves around world quests making it the ideal time to farm reputation and unlocking Allied Races.
      The Sign of the Emissary buff increases the amount of reputation gained from World Quests by 50%, and all Allied Races require exalted with their respective factions to become unlocked. Completing 20 world quests rewards 1,000 War Resources. Check out our Mechagnomes and Vulpera guides to learn more about how to unlock the latest Allied Races.
      Blizzard (Source)
      Chart a course across Kul Tiras and Zandalar for this week’s Bonus Event – World Quests.
      THIS WEEK
      All week, open your map (default hotkey-"m") and select any of the Kul Tiras or Zandalar regions to view the World Quests available to you. To find out more about each World quest, simply hover your mouse over a World Quest on the map to see what tasks are needed to complete it, the rewards you’ll receive, and the time remaining that the quest is available to you.
      Look for the following all week long:
      Chronicler Toopa in Boralus or Chronicler Shoopa in Zuldazar has a quest for you—The World Awaits. You can also start the quest from within the Adventure Guide (Shift-J). Quest requirement: Complete 20 World Quests in Kul Tiras, Zandalar, Mechagon, or Nazjatar Reward: 1,000 War Resources Passive buff: +50% to Reputation gains from World Quests If you’ve been looking to impress some emissaries, this is the week to do it!
      EVERY WEEK
      The Bonus Events system consists of a rotating schedule of different activities, currently scheduled to run each week beginning on Tuesdays. Each Bonus Event grants a passive bonus to a particular game activity and offers a once-per-event quest with a noteworthy reward for accomplishing a related goal. The in-game calendar can serve as your one-stop reference for the event schedule. The Adventure Guide also offers a direct link to active Bonus Events, allowing you to easily accept any associated quests.
×
×
  • Create New...