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Furty's Destro Guide - Just an odd question

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OK, so in the section labeled "Opening Sequence" Furty has the priority setup like this:

4. Opening Sequence

  1. Use Potion of Deadly Grace Icon Potion of Deadly Grace.
  2. Pre-cast Incinerate Icon Incinerate at 5 seconds on the countdown.
  3. Pre-cast a second Incinerate Icon Incinerate.
  4. Pre-cast Immolate Icon Immolate.

I am probably reading this entirely wrong but it looks like he wants me to pre-cast 2 spells, one spell twice. If this is accurate, then I assume the fight starts after the first IncinerateIncinerate. With that assumption why do I cast a second IncinerateIncinerate? Why not just move into casting ImmolateImmolate? Please help me, I am simply trying to figure out how this whole priority rotation BS is suppose to work but it isn't as black and white to me as it seems to appear to everyone else. 

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I'm not a Warlock genius, but I assume this is due to the travel time of Incinerate. Unless I remember incorrectly, the spell moves rather slowly and, given the max range, your spell will most likely hit the boss as it starts. That's the only thing that comes to mind.

In the future, it's worth putting your comment in the comments thread of the guide

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Incinerate is like chaosbolt, it moves very slow. When  it hits the boss it does it's dmg so the 5 secs are ok.
I tried it already out in prepatch (all ids).
In our group I started to cast at 4 because of ping, player reaction and so on.
Some times I pulled when casting on 5 because of the "bad?" reaction of the tank.

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hmm... so I'm still not quite understanding this concept... is it because in theory, if you cast the two and then immolate, all three will hit the boss around the same time because the slow moving Incinerate? Why not cast immolate once the boss is engaged? Does Incinerate buff any spells? Sorry that I'm not catching on...

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14 hours ago, Lightsourced said:

hmm... so I'm still not quite understanding this concept... is it because in theory, if you cast the two and then immolate, all three will hit the boss around the same time because the slow moving Incinerate? Why not cast immolate once the boss is engaged? Does Incinerate buff any spells? Sorry that I'm not catching on...

So essentially, you are required to keep Immolate up at all times and never letting it drop. By pre-casting these spells, we can immediately have the debuff up on the boss. Due to the way the cast and travel times work, your first Incinerate and the Immolate will hit at the same time. Your second Incinerate will hit shortly after.

You can then immediately launch into your normal rotation, rather than having to spend time in the actual boss fight applying your first Immolate.

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im going to assume that with the coming shard changes, that incin can be replaced with a CB. This is actually really nice for destros openers because we can pretty much start the fight with eradication rolling. 

on the topic of openers...im currently putting up my immo, conflag, conflag, then CB. once eradication is up i pop all three portals, throw in my serv imp and doomguard, by that time i recast immo and conflag and then another CB. Everything seems to just line up nicely at the start there.

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18 hours ago, vaeevictiss said:

im going to assume that with the coming shard changes, that incin can be replaced with a CB. This is actually really nice for destros openers because we can pretty much start the fight with eradication rolling. 

Will definitely be interesting to see. I'm sure Furty will keep things updated shortly after those shard changes go live!

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