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Havoc DH DPS help

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Hey!
Demon hunters are not famous because their continuous damage, however, we can definitely do some huge burst damage, so don't worry. 

First of all, use some enchants and gems. Period. Secondly, get your stat prio right: crit>versa/mastery>haste (this is my prio). Use potions, flasks, food: these can help maximize your damage. You have to be careful about relic choices: I prefer chaos strike runes over anything else. Do not use magic reduction relics etc. even if they provide 5-6 lvl difference. 

When you are playing, it is really important to use Nemesis and Chaos blades at the same time (since they both have 2 mins cooldown) with Fury of the Illidari. 

I hope this somehow helps.

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One thing I would suggest is speccing out of Bloodlet and speccing into First blood.  Remove throw glaive from your base rotation and only use it as a filler ability when you're stuck with no Fury and only auto-attacking.  Using blade dance on cooldown with first blood will provide a greater and more consistent increase in damage than bloodlet can provide.  I would also sim this setup against your current setup and see what the simmed numbers say.  According to your profile I don't see any gems socketed in your gear which can help get your stats up.  

My DH can be found here.  Currently I'm missing a gem slotted into my helm and honestly forgot that I even had a socket in that piece.  I'm running Unleashed Power for additional CC in M+ at the moment.  I'm currently spiking during burst at 1.2m ST and extended dropping to about 325-350k.  The extended could be brought up by tweaking and perfecting my rotation however I haven't put that much time into it with testing different builds to find what's the most fun while still being competitive for the content i'm running.  The thing that i'm noticing is that my Crit and Mastery are higher than yours which could possibly impact either of our damage.

Hope this helps at all, also any feedback related to my gear/build/etc.. is appreciated as well (don't have any logs to provide :(  sorry)

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Thanks for your input everyone. Ill test First Blood > Bloodlet, however for single target DPS, First Blood is still better than Bloodlet?

I find bloodlet as basically a free DoT, where you can put up whenever you have some down time within your rotation. Whereas, im theorising that First Blood is taking away from the amount of times you can cast Chaos Strike, due to its Fury cost. Also, should i be casting Blade Dance whenever its CD ends to make this talent worth speccing to?

Lastly, are there stat caps that i can aim for? Unless Diminishing Returns with Stat Stacking has been removed, blindly following the stated Stat Priority can cause more harm than good, 

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First Blood always performs better than Bloodlet (Bloodlet's damage has been cut in half recently) except in one theoretical encounter with 2-3 stacked targets and while using Mo-arg Bionic Stabilizers. First Blood performs significantly better than both Bloodlet and Chaos Cleave in single target encounters, though.

On 1/24/2017 at 8:11 AM, Iose said:

im theorising that First Blood is taking away from the amount of times you can cast Chaos Strike, due to its Fury cost.

In the comparison between First Blood and Bloodlet, I simply believe that Blade Dance's low Fury cost (First Blood reduces the cost to a forgettable 15) equals more damage in the long run, than Bloodlet would. To use Bloodlet to its fullest potential, you would have to spend a tonne of GCD's on Throw Glaive, when you could be spending those GCD's on something like Chaos Strike. In this case, I believe Bloodlet would actually result in less Chaos Strike casts than First Blood. 

On 1/24/2017 at 8:11 AM, Iose said:

Lastly, are there stat caps that i can aim for?

Not really. It was previously believed that there was a mastery breakpoint to reach for Chaos Cleave to outperform other talents, however this talent has since been nerfed in such a way that this is no longer the case. The stat priority now is Critical Strike > Mastery > Agility > Haste > Versatility, and there are no harmful diminishing returns that I know of.

This is simply my personal opinion though. Please feel free to disagree, as I am still very much new to this, and still eager to learn.

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