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Significant Changes Coming to Primal Ancient Items

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Primal Ancient items spark controversy since their introduction and are dubbed a terrible and lazy design choice. The issue with the philosophy is that boosting stats isn't new content or gameplay what the Diablo developer team should be focusing on.

A blue post talks about significant design changes coming to Primal Ancient items in a future (not the next) PTR Build.

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Loving the amount of thoughtful and constructive discourse on this topic. We knew introducing Primal Ancients would be somewhat controversial, because they are meant to be very rare, and we appreciate the time and effort you all have taken to testing them thus far. We're reading as many threads, watching as many videos, and listening to as many streams as possible to gather your thoughts and reflect on them. 

There are definitely some good and valid concerns, and we are going to be making some significant design changes with Primal Ancients. These changes aren't set in stone and have some technical hurdles behind them, so they won't be making the next PTR patch, but a future one instead.

Communication is key this early on in PTR. Are you checking all the primal related threads in the PTR feedback, or just this one?

We're definitely looking at multiple threads, it's just much easier for us to pick a centralized location to converse.

On a related note, it's easier on us if there's more of a centralized discussion, so while other threads likely won't go unnoticed, it's much easier for us to parse one thread on a topic than fifty.

Let's hope they will be turned into something more impactful!

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I believe in the "significant changes" when I see them.

After the disaster of the New Tristram event it is absolutly clear what Diablo means to Blizzard: Less then nothing.

If they are not interested in investing more then maybe 2 hours of coding on the 20th birthday celebration - why should they do anything interesting this year at all?

 

The necromancer will be an overpriced (my guess: 15 bucks, maybe even 20) class with absolutly nothing new or interesting compared to the other classes. But wait, I forgot, he has no mana! They call it some other thing I cant remember. Yeah, that is fantastic, that is innovation, that is new and exciting - well, at least as much as blizzard is able to do.

 

It is realy sad to see the state Blizzard is in. Blizzard had such a fantastic team, they made incredible games. They had good stories, fantastic cinematics, great dialogues, the games where made with love. Warcraft, Diablo 1+2, Starcraft, Brood-War...

Well, that was a long time ago, these times are gone forever I fear :(

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I would like to know WHAT exactly is being re-worked on the primal ancient items, I mean...they have perfect stats so WHAT needs to be re-worked??? Perfect stat items should have been easier to get a long time ago in my opinion. Diablo 3 has been out for 20 years so shouldn't they have had perfect items a long time ago? I hate the complaints from people in regards to the content, the game is 20 YEARS OLD, what do people think? that they are going to re-write the story for them to add more stuff that didn't exist previously??? That is a STUPID notion!!! I also don't understand how players think that you have to complete a level 70 SOLO before they start to drop, I have only done a level 60 with my zbarb and I have already had 2 useful Primal Ancient items drop for him soooo..... explain the whole level 70 SOLO thing to me like I'm a 3 year old because he has NOT done a level 70 SOLO and yet they drop (AS THEY SHOULD) so clearly I don't get it!

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On 8/31/2017 at 8:37 PM, ROSSCUSS said:

 also don't understand how players think that you have to complete a level 70 SOLO before they start to drop, I have only done a level 60 with my zbarb and I have already had 2 useful Primal Ancient items drop for him soooo..... explain the whole level 70 SOLO thing to me like I'm a 3 year old because he has NOT done a level 70 SOLO and yet they drop (AS THEY SHOULD) so clearly I don't get it!

It can be done on any character on the account. Also, the rework needs to be done because RNG dictates the Leaderboards currently. If you don't get the right weapon as a Primal, you can say goodbye to any chance of a top finish for the season. Personally, I'd prefer Primal tokens. Can either use one to get a random Primal item, two to get a random item in a specific slot or three to get a specific item Primal.

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