Laffy

Retribution Sim/pawn questions

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Hi, I'm kinda new to using simcraft and pawn to help with itemization so hopefully you guys can answer some stuff for me. When I run the simcraft addon in WoW and copy the data from the pop up window and paste it into the simcraft program and run it, I take the pawn string from the results and plug it into pawn. Now I know our stat priorities, and I don't know if it's because I've been upgrading from like ~850 ilev pieces and pawn is suggesting upgrades based mostly on the str increase, but my haste has fallen to abysmal levels, like 15%. I'm assuming once I catch up to where upgrades are not so much about straight item level (str) increases, pawn will be suggesting upgrades based on secondary stats. Here's a link to my armory. Thank you for any suggestions.

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/firetree/Alissiana/simple

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Im a similar item level to yourself 889, your haste as far as I know should be at least 20%, I'm currently at 26% crit (which i find low), haste 21% and mastery at 28%.  Again your mastery seems really high at 36%.  Have you just concentrated on equipping the highest ilevel items you get?  I have tried to concentrate on haste and crit, but using simcraft it always tells me that my highest stat weight at the moment is mastery and vers.

Don't know how much this helps but thought I'd let you know what ive experienced recently 

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Basically I've been trusting Pawn. I sim myself a few times a week, especially after getting upgrades because I know that my weights can change slightly at different times. Basically if an item drops, and pawn says it's a significant upgrade (10% or more) I'll equip it. If it's less than 10%, I'll equip both and sim with both to compare. But because I've only been 110 on this toon for maybe a month, a lot of items that drop are a major upgrade, like 20+ ilev and I've been taking those upgrades rather than cherry picking stats. I don't have access to them right now, but according to logs, I generally make 75th or higher percentile for my item level bracket on most fights, so I know I'm basically performing ok, I'm just concerned because the other ret in the guild has like 36% haste and she's acting like I need more, but because I've been listening to pawn for upgrades, my haste has suffered.

 

Edit: On straight single target fights, I maintain right about 400k-410k as an idea for comparison. 

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