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Hi ya'll - My Mission is to a make EVERYONE comfortable in PvP and have FUN knowing they're playing their class well, and are able to help contribute to the team. This should decrease the amount of griefers, salty dogs, ragers, and quitters in PvP throughout arena / bgs!! It's my goal <3
Pushing towards that I wanted to share a PvP Guide I've put together breaking down talents, honor talents, and how to do the rotation for Elemental Shaman. I hope it helps you guys and gives you an edge in PvP. I'll be putting together some more to help break more pieces of PVP.
Elemental shaman are at the BEST place they've been in for PATCHES!! So it's a great time to push rating and try some different comps out!!
My top 3v3 comps:
1) Boom + Ele + MW/Hpal
2) Destro + Ele + Heals
3) Sub + Ele + HPriest
4) Ele + War + Rdruid
5) Spriest + Ele + Heals
My top 2v2 comps - anything other than these is kind too hard to handle with how often there are melee in 2v2.
1) MW + Ele
2) Rogue + Ele
3) Ele + Rdruid
4) Ele + Hpriest
Let me know what works for you and what doesnt!!
The future guides will include
1) Arena Guide - dealing with positioning, when to do damage, communicating , and key addons that will help you
2) Battleground Guide - what specs work for each map, little tips and tricks per map type, and how to communicate with your teammates well
3) UI - reviewing how different UI setups can REALLY enhance your pvp gameplay
4) Keybinds and Macros - Trying to call out the little changes you can make that can make a big difference, and things you may not be thinking about for Macros/keybinds that could blow your mind.
Before you start any transmog farm ensure you have the following addons:
The farm i will be doing is located in the vanilla blackwing lair raid,
This can be done with only a few characters as you require 2 things:
- A way to drop combat such as invisibility or feign death
- Magical damage such as arcane explosion for mages or hunter trap
the best option is still to use mage and even better would be a nightelf mage as you would have shadowmeld and invisibility.
A detailed video on any information you may need.
Thanks for your time and i hope you get some nice stuff.
There are two variants for this build and depending on preference: Grim Scythe (stable dps) or the Devour (burst dps)
Briggs' Wrath + Avarice Band+ Goldwrap + Boon of the Hoarder + Frailty Aura of Frailty +Life from Death creates a giant aura (that is almost the size of the screen) to pull all the enemies towards you, to paint an easy target for devastation.
Grim Scythe variant:
Grim Scythe Cursed Scythe Corpse Lance Brittle Touch (single target burst) or Corpse Explosion Close Quarters (multi-target burst) Bone Armor Dislocation Blood Rush Potency Land of the Dead (I prefer Frozen Lands to stop goblin hoards) Frailty Aura of Frailty Devour variant:
Devour Cannibalize Corpse Explosion Close Quarters Bone Armor Dislocation Blood Rush Metabolism (Speed) or Blood Rush Potency (Survivability) Land of the Dead Shallow Graves Frailty Aura of Frailty *Note: Corpse Lance isn't recommended for this build. Also this variant is better playing with a team is because it's a double edged sword, it's easy to have the flow stop when there aren't a good supply of elites coming your way and you will feel like you're dead in the water. However it is a choice for the Grim Scythe build due to the consistent damage that grim scythe itself can deal.
Stand Alone Spreading Malediction Life from Death (Survivability) or Blood is Power (Additional CD reduction) Swift Harvesting (Grim Scythe) or Blood is Power (Devour) - Until the bugged Fueled by Death is fixed
Off-Hand: Leger's Disdain (grim scythe build) or Lost Time (speed)
Set: Inarius's Conviction + Inarius's Martyrdom + Inarius's Perseverance + Inarius's Reticence + Inarius's Understanding + Inarius's Will
Necklace: Wisdom of Kalan
Ring #1: Krysbin's Sentence
Ring #2: Avarice Band or Briggs' Wrath (whichever rolled better)
*Note: For your items, I suggest getting additional gold/health glob pick up area to add to the passive affects that we're wanting to boost
Trag'Oul's Corroded Fang
Avarice Band or Briggs' Wrath (whichever wasn't rolled very well with)
Aquila Cuirass or Grasps of Essence (depending if you're using corpse explosion - also note I suggest adding Flawless Royal Diamond to some sockets to add some resistance if you're giving up the damage reduction)
Bane of the Trapped
Boon of the Hoarder
Gogok of Swiftness (Grim Scythe) or Wreath of Lightning (Speed)
Helm: Flawless Royal Diamond
Everywhere Else: Flawless Royal Diamond (Survivability) or Flawless Royal Topaz (Damage)
Grim Scythe variant:
Keeping Bone Armor on cooldown, this is the most important thing for this build to work because of the damage reduction and damage boost you get for the set bonus Corpse Lance/Corpse Explosion is used against the champions, rares and uniques. Land of the Dead will be used when during large encounters/boss fights. Blood Rush will be used for traveling/utility (especially when In-geom is procced). Grim Scythe will be used in all other cases. Devour variant:
Bone Armor (keeping on cooldown), to get things started. Land of the Dead to start building your momentum when your 1st elite pack shows up. Corpse Explosion you'll be using as your main point of dps because you'll be dragging everything on the screen towards you, piling towards the center to deliver devastating splash damage. Blood Rush + Devour in sync will be used as your movement utility, which during your In-geom proccing will make Devour almost needed because of how quick you'll be moving and how quickly your health will drain. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reference for a standard ancient only build: https://www.d3planner.com/236420675
Reference for a perfected build: https://www.d3planner.com/376141709
"For AoE there are two options. The first of these is Loramus Thalipedes' Sacrifice, further increasing the power of Fel Rush for each subsequent target you charge through, though recent changes have diminished how powerful this is. 7.2 has extended this to apply with the first target hit, but are still unremarkable."
This may sound stupid but I was hoping someone could just help me clarify this last sentence of this section. "7.2 has extended this to apply with the first target hit, but are still unremarkable." I'm a bit confused as to what this means. Is this sentence saying that the damage is "unremarkable" in a good way? Or bad way? I've just received the legendary boots and am trying to see if they're a good choice in fights with a lot of adds.
Thank you for your time.
Hi, boys and girls!
I recently played Evo-Shaman again (Brian Kiblers version basically), after having a lot of fun (and frustration) at the beginning of Whispers of the old Gods with an Evo-Deck and trying the Jade version in Mean Streets of Gadgetzan. But all the time I played it, it felt like I had a lot of bad luck with Evolve. Always getting something worse than I had before. So now I tried to prove myself wrong by doing some math (or counting). And I want to share my results with you! Enjoy!
First off the five different classes:
Bomb : possibly gamewinning. Overwhelming stats and/or powerful abilities. The best you can get for this price (e.g. Succubus, Savannah Highmane, Aya Blackpaw, Cairne Bloodhoof)
Better : better stats than before (e.g. 2/3 from evolving a Totem) or a some kind of useful effect (e.g. Deathrattle) (e.g. Kindly Grandmother, Ornery Direhorn, Argent Commander)
Mediocre : underwhelming stats or a downside / probably useless effect. (e.g. Scavenging Hyena, Frozen Crusher, Cabal Shadow Priest)
Bad : worse than before. Terrible stats compared to other cards of the same cost (e.g. Grimestreet Outfitter, Nerubian Prophet)
Awful : cards that can make you loose the game, are entirely useless in most situations or have extremly bad stats (e.g. Doomsayer, Ancient Watcher, Big-Time Racketeer)
And some important things to considerate:
cards are evaluated like if you are ahead or equal to your opponent (e.g. Abomination is Aweful)
cards with useful effects are evaluated compared to an every day situation with a somewhat aggressive Evolution-Shaman-Deck. Likewise minions like The Voraxx are Bad, because you will not be able to use there ability.
Minions with one Health are most of the time Bad
Minions are compared to other minions you can get. Likewise nearly any 6-drop is better than the 2/2 from Doppelgangster but getting a Fight Promoter is still bad.
Minions are partly evaluated like you would evolve them at the end of your turn and/or after you played them (so with not much mana left), as you most of the time would do. Likewise minions with triggered abilities like Gadgetzan Auctioneer are most of the time Bad.
Of course Battlecries doesn't matter at all.
Jades can get pretty much any manacost, so they fit everywhere.
Aya Blackpaw is evaluated like if you get her while playing other Jade-cards in your deck (as you normally do in Evo-Shaman) otherwise she is mediocre.
Finally some cards are very debatable and fit more in between classes, so you might come up with different results sometimes (e.g. Nat Pagle)
Costs of the minion you want to evolve (examples in common Evo-Shaman-Decks) →
Class (e.g. Better) Number of cards ( I = one card, IIIII = 5 cards) (Best / Worse cards you can get) [chance of getting something aweful in %] - total number
1-Mana (HP-Totems, Murloc-Tokens, Fire Fly, Patches the Pirate, Bloodsail Corsair) →
Bomb IIIII II (e.g. Millhouse Manastorm, Cornered Sentry) - 7
Better IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII - 45
Mediocre IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII I - 21
Bad IIIII IIIII I - 11
Awful III (e.g. Doomsayer) [3,45%] - 3
Charge: 1 (1,2% chance)
Taunt: 7 (8,1% chance)
2-Mana (Flametongue Totem, Primalfin Totem) (3/3 vanilla is mediocre) →
Bomb IIIII III (e.g. Injured Blademaster, Shaku, the Collector) - 8
Better IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII - 30
Mediocre IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII I - 31
Bad IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II - 32
Awful III (e.g. Unlicensed Apothecary) [2,88%] - 3
Charge: 1 (0,96% chance)
Taunt: 10 (9,6% chance)
3-Mana (Mana Tide Totem, Stonehill Defender) (4/4 vanilla is mediocre)→
Bomb IIII (e.g.Flamewreathed Faceless, Twilight Summoner) - 4
Better IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII II - 27
Mediocre IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII I - 26
Bad IIIII IIII IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII I - 31
Awful I (Faceless Shambler) [1,11%] - 1
Charge: 2 (2,2% chance)
Taunt: 10 (11,2% chance)
4-Mana (Jinyu Waterspeaker) (5/5 or 5/4 or 4/5 vanilla is mediocre)→
Bomb IIIII I (e.g. Earth Elemental, Grimestreet Enforcer) - 6
Better IIIII IIIII IIIII III - 18
Mediocre IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII III - 23
Bad IIIII IIIII IIIII IIIII - 20
Awful IIIII (e.g. Abomination, Bomb Squad) [6,94%] - 5
Charge: 2 (2,8% chance) (Doomguard and Leeroy Jenkins)
Taunt: 11 (15,3% chance)
5-Mana (Doppelgangster) (5/5 vanilla is mediocre)→
Bomb IIIII (e.g. Kabal Trafficker) - 5
Better IIIII IIIII IIIII II - 17
Mediocre IIIII IIIII IIIII IIII - 19
Bad IIIII IIIII - 10
Awful III (e.g. Big-Time Racketeer) [5,55%] - 3
Charge: 2 (3,7% chance)
Taunt: 9 + Hogger (16,7% chance)
6-Mana (Thing from Below) (6/6 vanilla is mediocre)→
Bomb I (Swamp King Dred) - 1
Better IIIII IIIII II - 12
Mediocre IIIII I - 6
Bad IIIII IIIII I -11
Awful I (Baron Geddon) [3,22%] - 1
Charge: 0 (0% chance)
Taunt: 4 (12,9% chance)
It seems that you can get a lot of good stuff (mainly 2/3s and 3/2s) from evolving 1-Mana-minions like your totems and Primalfin-Murlocs. The danger of getting Doomsayer seems pretty low (1,3%).
Evolving 2-Mana-Minions seems pretty good too. You get a decent chance of getting real big bombs and high-value-cards, but there is also some pretty bad stuff. Also you have to evolve your valuable totems (these are your 2-Mana-Minions most of the time).
Evolving 3-, 4-, 5- and 6-Mana-minions are pretty much 50/50. They got a lot of awesome stuff, but also some pretty bad results.
Especially the 5-Mana Evolve is important, since you will often get three 6-drops from one 5-drop (Doppelgangster), so getting a bunch of 4/5s is still awesome.
Jades will probably turn into something similar or worse most of the time.