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Blizzard has been inconsistent with Shard pricing of items and recently, players found out that some skins cost way more than they should, which caused an outrage on reddit.

Here's a quote from 2.0 launch patch notes:

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Much like new Heroes receive a Gold price reduction once they’ve been in the Nexus for a few weeks, new Skins and Mounts that are unlockable using Gems start at a higher than normal Shard price. These items will receive a Shard price reduction a few weeks after they are added to the game.
  • New items that are only unlockable via Loot Chests and Forging (such as a new version of an existing Skin) will not start at a higher Shard price, or receive a Shard price reduction.

The problem is that Xul's Bone Visage skin should cost 400 Shards, but it's at 600, Shadow Demonic Auriel, Kerrigan's MEKA skin and the Horrific Prime Evil Diablo skin should cost 1,600 Shards, but they cost 2,400 Shards. Spyrian responded that all new skins and mounts start at a higher shard price for several weeks following release and will have their price reduced after they've been in-game for a couple of weeks. Items from the Sun's Out, Guns Out will remain at their current prices throughout the event.

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Hey guys, just so there’s more transparency on this, we changed our approach to new item shard pricing so that all new skins and mounts now start at higher shard prices for a couple of weeks following release. In part, we felt there were too many rules around which new items have higher shard prices and which don’t, and feel this will be more consistent.

As mentioned above, these items will receive a price reduction after they've been in-game for a couple of weeks. If you’re short on shards, waiting a bit before picking them up is an option as well. Waiting may also give you a little more time to earn shards from the Loot Chests you receive as progression rewards. However, special event items, such as our Suns's Out, Guns Out skins and mounts, will remain at their current prices throughout the event.

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Sure, technically we don't have to spend any real monies on these skins, but that is kind of a low blow from their part.

One thing that is really rustling my jimmies is how the Sun's Out, Gun's Out loot chests only have a chance of containing the items from the event; as far as I know, they were supposed to be a 100% drop, am I right? At least one item should be from the event. Or did I misread the blue notes?

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I didn't have a problem with this. it honestly made sense. Though i will say 2400 shards is a lot. takes more than a month just to get 1600.

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1 hour ago, Valhalen said:

Sure, technically we don't have to spend any real monies on these skins, but that is kind of a low blow from their part.

One thing that is really rustling my jimmies is how the Sun's Out, Gun's Out loot chests only have a chance of containing the items from the event; as far as I know, they were supposed to be a 100% drop, am I right? At least one item should be from the event. Or did I misread the blue notes?

Not sure I understand where you're getting at, all the loot boxes I've opened so far during the event had at least 1 item from said event, so that counts as 100% drop in my opinion..

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4 minutes ago, Rashaall said:

Not sure I understand where you're getting at, all the loot boxes I've opened so far during the event had at least 1 item from said event, so that counts as 100% drop in my opinion..

A lot of times I've opened and didn't get anything, not even a spray.

Also, it should be guaranteed to drop when you re-roll, which is not the case.

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29 minutes ago, Valhalen said:

A lot of times I've opened and didn't get anything, not even a spray.

Also, it should be guaranteed to drop when you re-roll, which is not the case.

He is right, i've opened more than 50 chests, and not even half of them had an item of the event, so... its pretty unfair. Guys, not even 25/50, that's not cool. How come i have to lvl up more than 50 lvls to have all the things i want from an event? To people who dont have stim packs this is insane, its a lot of time playing... 

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I got to thank Blizzard for 5 (five!) legendary Tychus skins. I want them all because I got all others legs already. And thanks for not changing Odin skin in these legendaries. Who cares how their Odins look?

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4 minutes ago, HenrySteinway said:

I got to thank Blizzard for 5 (five!) legendary Tychus skins. I want them all because I got all others legs already. And thanks for not changing Odin skin in these legendaries. Who cares how their Odins look?

I got disappointed they didn't change Odin for those skins.

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What i hate about the new system is that for a skin to be legendary it used to have to be either changed attack animations or voice overs or both. But now they get away with just tossing in a new skin and not changing any of the animations or voice overs and calling it a legendary skin and making you farm a ton of shards for something that should be epic at best.

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So.... Shadow Demonic Auriel will be 1600 in a few weeks? I know a guy whos saving his shards then! :P

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On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 3:23 PM, Valhalen said:

Sure, technically we don't have to spend any real monies on these skins, but that is kind of a low blow from their part.

One thing that is really rustling my jimmies is how the Sun's Out, Gun's Out loot chests only have a chance of containing the items from the event; as far as I know, they were supposed to be a 100% drop, am I right? At least one item should be from the event. Or did I misread the blue notes?

Spot on sir.  I can't afford to spend a ton of money for skins and the fact that you are hiking shard prices is terrible in my opinion.  I play a lot of games and it is somewhat difficult to obtain enough shards.

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1 hour ago, Darkjester79 said:

Spot on sir.  I can't afford to spend a ton of money for skins and the fact that you are hiking shard prices is terrible in my opinion.  I play a lot of games and it is somewhat difficult to obtain enough shards.

Yeah, ever since 2.0 launched I've been saving shards for when Blizzard finally released The Lost Vikings announcer. I recently bought my very first skin, the Admiral Krakenov, so I'm sitting at 2000 shards. And everything costs so damn much.

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On 15/07/2017 at 1:54 AM, Valhalen said:

Yeah, ever since 2.0 launched I've been saving shards for when Blizzard finally released The Lost Vikings announcer. I recently bought my very first skin, the Admiral Krakenov, so I'm sitting at 2000 shards. And everything costs so damn much.

Still saving for my Prime Evil Diablo skin :(

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If they are so worried about making money with the new gems and loot chests system since you can purchase 'packs' of each of those things. Then why not just throw some shards into each real money gem packs too. With the amount of shards that are a 'bonus' to purchasing them ascending with the cost of the packs too. It would act as further incentive for people to actually buy their real money stuff in the first place. Since you could use them to forge other skin variations you want that aren't able to be purchased by way of gems. Seems like a no-brainer business idea to appear more consumer friendly to the players to me. You of course wouldn't want to make it TOO high an amount that you could just forge the new gem/bundle based skins. So I suppose they could make it so you get a comparable amount of shards per gems that you buy. Since you have to spend gems to buy any bundles or packs of stuff. Again making it more appealing to buy gems in the first place. Maybe say 100 shards per 100 gems. Since I'm pretty sure it's 100 gems=$1 OR if they're really that worried about it then half the amount of shards to gems you purchase with real money. That seems fair enough. Better then none at all.

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13 hours ago, Blainie said:

Still saving for my Prime Evil Diablo skin :(

The Prime Evil Diablo skin was the very first legendary I got from loot boxes in 2.0, and I don't even like his D3 design. And I've got all variations of Tychus summer skin from loot boxes as well, and I don't even play Tychus.

Meanwhile, I've been wanting to get the Bucaneer Falstad, Lumberjack Uther, Love Goddess Tyrande from loot boxes, but nothing. Life is fucking unfair.

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8 hours ago, CyberDVonaven said:

That seems fair enough. Better then none at all.

I'd definitely be on board with having the shards included, yeah. I understand that they wanted to implement a slightly more RNG-element to the game with the boxes, but it sucks having to spend so much just to try and find enough shards to get the legendary you want.

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3 hours ago, Valhalen said:

The Prime Evil Diablo skin was the very first legendary I got from loot boxes in 2.0, and I don't even like his D3 design. And I've got all variations of Tychus summer skin from loot boxes as well, and I don't even play Tychus.

Meanwhile, I've been wanting to get the Bucaneer Falstad, Lumberjack Uther, Love Goddess Tyrande from loot boxes, but nothing. Life is fucking unfair.

Uhhh - so I have the ones you want (all of them), and you have the legendaries I want. Swap? :(

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2 minutes ago, Blainie said:

Uhhh - so I have the ones you want (all of them), and you have the legendaries I want. Swap? :(

Man, I'd do it right now if I could. The RNG God trolls me a lot by giving me stuff from characters I'll never touch (I have ALL voice lines for Tracer and not a single one for Auriel, my main).

Would be nice if Blizzard implemented a system where you could gift other players with stuff you have in exchange for their duplicate value in Shards.

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2 hours ago, Valhalen said:

Man, I'd do it right now if I could. The RNG God trolls me a lot by giving me stuff from characters I'll never touch (I have ALL voice lines for Tracer and not a single one for Auriel, my main).

Would be nice if Blizzard implemented a system where you could gift other players with stuff you have in exchange for their duplicate value in Shards.

That'd be pretty awesome, but I imagine it'd lead to them seeing it as a hit on their profits, so it'll probably never happen :(

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      It's time for a new Heroes Brawl and this week it's Silver City - a single-lane battleground straight out of the High Heavens. Shuffle pick and standard play with no talent restrictions apply. The first team to destroy the enemy Core wins. Play two games to earn a Loot Chest.
      Update #2: The issue has been fixed.
      Update: There seems to be a bug with this week's brawl and credit toward earning a Loot Chest is tagged as completed from last week. Relogging does not solve the issue and playing a brawl does not count toward the credit or fix the problem either.
      Blizzard (Source)
      This week’s Heroes Brawl is Silver City! Battle against the enemy team on this single-lane Battleground featuring a familiar design straight out of the High Heavens, Mercenary Camps ready to be swayed to your team’s favor, and tons of action. Queue up, choose your hero, and try your best to send the enemy team to the Burning Hells!
      Rules:
      Shuffle pick - Choose from one of three Heroes before entering the battle. Standard play - no talent or level restrictions. The first team to destroy the enemy Core wins! Rewards:
      Complete two matches of the Silver City Brawl to earn a Loot Chest! Find out more about the new Heroes Brawl game mode on our Heroes Brawl site; and as always, you can find more information on this week’s Brawl by clicking the Brawl Info button at the bottom of the play screen when preparing to queue for the Brawl game mode.
    • By Stan

      Weekly sales have been updated for the week of September 26. Get Cassia, Zeratul and other skins & mounts at a reduced price.
      Blizzard (Source)
      Weekly Collection Update: Sept 26 – Oct 3, 2017
      Next week's Collection Update will begin on Tuesday, September 26! Check out the new list of featured items and Hero discounts below.  Upcoming Hero Sales
      Cassia — Sale Price: 375 Gems Zeratul — Sale Price: 375 Gems The following Skins and Mounts will enter the Featured Item Rotation, and will be unlockable using Gems until next week's Collection Update:
      Upcoming Featured Skins
      Pirate Queen Cassia Golden Unraveler Zeratul Azure Grimskull Nazeebo Techno Super Sonya Lurkablo Amber Ghost Tracer Pajamathur Abathur Storm Wolf Rehgar Upcoming Featured Mounts
      Marshal's Outrider Verdant Magic Carpet Weekly Sale Bundle
      If you’d rather pick up everything at once, we’re also going to add a new Weekly Sale Bundle to the Featured tab in your Collection. This limited-time bundle contains all of the items above at a discounted Gem price, but will only be available until next week’s Collection Update takes place.
    • By Stan

      In next week's patch, Loot Chests purchased via the Loot tab will be only of Rare quality. The change only applies to Loot Chests purchased after next week's patch goes live, so it's best to hold off Loot Chest purchases until then.
      Other changes
      Celestial Steed Mount has been removed and replaced by Celestial Raptor. The Welcome Bundle has been removed from the Collection. 1,000 Gem reward at level 5 has been removed. The collection adjustments have been taken from the latest patch notes.
      Blizzard (Source)
      Collection
      Collection Adjustments
      Loot Chests Loot Chests purchased via the Loot tab will now only grant Rare Loot Chests, rather than Normal Loot Chests. Please note: This only applies to Loot Chests purchased after this patch is applied to the live version of the game in each region. Normal Loot Chests the player already owns will not convert to Rare Loot Chests. Rewards The Celestial Steed Mount has been removed and replaced by the Celestial Raptor as a reward for purchasing Loot Chests. The 1,000 Gem reward for reaching level 5 has been removed. Please note: Veteran players who have not logged in following the release of Heroes 2.0 earlier this year will no longer be able to claim this reward once this patch is applied to the live version of the game in each region. Bundles The Welcome Bundle has been removed from the Collection.