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Heroes of the Storm Deep Dive Panel

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The Deep Dive Panel is mostly about the design behind the new dragon Heroes Alexstrasza & Hanzo and how the developers came up with their respective kits.

Alexstrasza

  • From an artistic perspective, the team had two ways to approach Alexstrasza and bring her to the game.
  • She's not just any dragon, but the Aspect of Life.
  • Dragons are obviously huge and they used Azmodan's size to get her size right.
  • Her second heroic ability was internally tested to bring health of Heroes standing in the area of effect of her second Heroic ability to an average value, but that didn't feel impactful.
  • Alexstrasza's trait works just like AscendanceAscendance in World of Warcraft.

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Alexstrasza's Kit and What Didn't Work Out

  • Blizzard tried out indiscriminate healing for her "W" ability. It's the same type of healing we saw in the Vortex Pinnacle dungeon back in Cataclysm - Healing WellHealing Well. Essentially, the ability heals both friendly and enemy targets and they didn't like that design to begin with.
  • One of the Heroic abilities that was tested early in development swapped out health percentage of Heroes to an average value, but that didn't feel impactful.
  • Alexstrasza's second Heroic ability was actually meant for Probius.

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Hanzo

  • All Heroes get bulkier when they are added to Heroes of the Storm.
  • Blizzard showed us how they adjusted Hanzo from Overwatch and brought him to the game and they also took his Overwatch model and imported it straight into Heroes of the Storm to give the community an idea of how the Hero would look without any adjustments.
  • It's harder to design kits for FPS Heroes.
  • Internal testing and the tuning process of Hanzo's kit was depicted, just before Q/A went off.

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Q/A

  • Blizzard would like to redefine Hero roles.
    • Split up Warriors into Bruisers & Tanks etc.
  • Tyrael's Mana costs will be revisited.

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So it's official... no more people not knowing the between a real tank and a bruiser!

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4 hours ago, Lovestud500 said:

Alexstrasza looks like shes going to be the body blocking champ.

I can totally see this happening if she gets enough mitigation from her allies (DevotionDevotion, Plasma ShieldPlasma Shield, Force of WillForce of Will, etc.), because sure, Dragonqueen gives whopping 500 bonus health, but we don't know yet what her base health is.

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7 hours ago, SteveFrost said:

I believe Tyrael needs way more than just mana adjustments...

Tyrael has his own niche and is naturally inferior in HL environment than he would be in coordinated with comms because he requires teamwork, he is sometimes meta and sometimes not meta depending of which other heroes are meta at the moment, but power level wise is just fine.

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Btw will the 500 health bonus scale with level?

If not it'll be a huge boost at the first levels but just a minor in the mid to late game.

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7 minutes ago, BrightwingMain said:

Tyrael has his own niche and is naturally inferior in HL environment than he would be in coordinated with comms because he requires teamwork, he is sometimes meta and sometimes not meta depending of which other heroes are meta at the moment, but power level wise is just fine.

He reached this state to begin with because he was spammed in competitive play (and Heroes of the Copycats so,,) and now there's a disrepancy; if someone's only good for top-level play because of the coordination and practice and.. not so good anywhere else (to not use the t- word), that's bad for game's health. Plus, he suffers from few options (since they removed many talents from him) and "always same build" syndrome, premiere reasons that warrant a talent tree update.

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The "same build syndrome" is true for many heroes, no matter how hard they try to balance things there are always talent choices better than others.

Ofc some have their optional builds e.g. building for tank or bruiser, but most alternative builds just swap one or two talents which often has no or just a minor effect on the play style.

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1 hour ago, Caldyrvan said:

The "same build syndrome" is true for many heroes, no matter how hard they try to balance things there are always talent choices better than others.

Ofc some have their optional builds e.g. building for tank or bruiser, but most alternative builds just swap one or two talents which often has no or just a minor effect on the play style.

That is a problem I see with Heroes like Sonya. You can't go full Slam build because it is extremely unviable. So everyone just do the same bread and butter build, where War Paint, Ignore Pain and Nerves of Steel are a must.

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19 hours ago, SteveFrost said:

He reached this state to begin with because he was spammed in competitive play (and Heroes of the Copycats so,,) and now there's a disrepancy; if someone's only good for top-level play because of the coordination and practice and.. not so good anywhere else (to not use the t- word), that's bad for game's health. Plus, he suffers from few options (since they removed many talents from him) and "always same build" syndrome, premiere reasons that warrant a talent tree update.

I agree he would use partial or complete talent rework, but I disagree about his viability, he is fine enough.

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On 11/5/2017 at 10:41 AM, Fliits said:

So it's official... no more people not knowing the between a real tank and a bruiser!

What if they have talents to be both? :(

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56 minutes ago, Blainie said:

What if they have talents to be both? :(

Multiclass?

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2 hours ago, Fliits said:

Multiclass?

I don't need any more Varian-Parryin in my life

 

 

pls

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16 hours ago, Blainie said:

I don't need any more Varian-Parryin in my life

 

 

pls

We should get Broll as a Bruiser / Assassin multipass, where you can either play as Bear Form or Cat Form.

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8 minutes ago, Valhalen said:

We should get Broll as a Bruiser / Assassin multipass, where you can either play as Bear Form or Cat Form.

That'd be a fun one. Hopefully there's no immune on him, but you could have him as a normal druid at 1-10, then at 10 he chooses cat form or bear form. Can still go back to human mode, but his R swaps between forms.

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1 hour ago, Blainie said:

That'd be a fun one. Hopefully there's no immune on him, but you could have him as a normal druid at 1-10, then at 10 he chooses cat form or bear form. Can still go back to human mode, but his R swaps between forms.

Yes, that would be pretty cool. I made a topic called "Heroes of the Brainstorm" where I made a presented a conceptual kit for Broll (I included him being to heal too).

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