Cirto

Need help with brewmaster tank

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Hi! I am running through antorus right now, and I'm trying to push heroic with my guild now. We just downed the hounds, and we won't be raiding again until next weekend. I was wondering if I can get some help with learning what I'm doing wrong with my monk, I'm a brewmaster tank, and I seem to be taking almost twice the damage of the other tank in the raid, the prot pally. What am I doing wrong? what can I fix? 

Here's the link - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HZ8tYNGLM2T4bcfr/#fight=12&type=summary

 

Thanks very much!

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So, it looks like you're doing pretty good with brews/stash juggle. Your legendary choices are pretty questionable though (Chest/shoulders is what I prefer - or chest/wrist for suitability). Your trinkets are pretty garbo as well - Agility, Agility, Agility - if it doesn't have Agility on it it's not worth using for monks (for survivablity and dps).

 

Looking at logs you don't seem to purge stagger correctly - I do it as a feeling but usually 75% cap or so, or if I 'feel' the stagger. Also your build is a bit wonky - Also believe it's 14.4 for max haste. 

Chi Torpedo (extra movement quick helps)

Black Ox Brew - Once you're good at maintaining up time correctly, purging off incoming damage (or purging off a large hit) is what makes monks broken. Black Ox Brew allows for this.

Rushing Jade Wind > special delivery: Fits better with the rotation, more dps then special delivery, and ironskin brew  has a max length of 25 seconds, so constantly spamming it is very bad. 

Blackout Combo - High Tolerance: Getting rocked, swap to High tolerance, it helps quite a lot. 

Now on paper you take 'more damage' then this guy, mostly because you're not tracking/purifying access stagger correctly. I had 24 expels to your 38. You are 'smoother' then him, as he spikes like a fucking mad man. Your flat damage taken though is nearly double then me for all aspects - So build, get a higher ilvl, and get better trinkets (I'm just using artus trinkets these days - eye and tanking one from Argus, sometimes swapping to the leg if I need a shield). 

But the main reason for the extra dmg is capping stagger at key times - cap stagger you're taking unmitigated dmg.

 

 

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Moved this over to the Monk forum, since it's a Monk-specific topic. Missed it since it was in PvE, but adding to above:

  • For such a constant fight as Felhounds, your cast amounts are pretty low. You're filling with Tiger Palm far too often. You're missing out:
    • ~10-15 Keg casts
    • ~20-30 Blackout Strike casts
    • ~5-6 Breath of Fire casts
    • ~2 Exploding Keg casts
  • Above problem is likely caused by you being far too cautious with your energy usage, especially in the first quarter of the fight. You spend a full 2 minutes with an average Energy of ~75. 

Probably a bit late, but good luck with improving!

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On 12/29/2017 at 6:13 AM, Blainie said:

Moved this over to the Monk forum, since it's a Monk-specific topic. Missed it since it was in PvE, but adding to above:

  • For such a constant fight as Felhounds, your cast amounts are pretty low. You're filling with Tiger Palm far too often. You're missing out:
    • ~10-15 Keg casts
    • ~20-30 Blackout Strike casts
    • ~5-6 Breath of Fire casts
    • ~2 Exploding Keg casts
  • Above problem is likely caused by you being far too cautious with your energy usage, especially in the first quarter of the fight. You spend a full 2 minutes with an average Energy of ~75. 

Probably a bit late, but good luck with improving!

hey! I have definitely improved! but thank you for the advice, and I didn't even see the monk forum! thanks!

 

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20 hours ago, Cirto said:

hey! I have definitely improved! but thank you for the advice, and I didn't even see the monk forum! thanks!

Glad to hear it! Well done! 

Well, if you ever need help in the future, you always know where to post!

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