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Uther's Tomb Visual Update in Battle for Azeroth

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Uther's Tomb has been updated in Battle for Azeroth. Right now, we have no idea why it received visual updates, but Blizzard may use it as part of the Battle for Lordaeron scenario, or some other event in the future.

Uther's Tomb

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1 hour ago, Stan said:

(...) or some other event in the future.

I think it has something to do with the role of "the Light" in the future updates. Recently there were some datamined informations (...)

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(...) that hint to draenor factions being in confilict with each other because the side of the light took a more fanatic standpoint (i.e. "convert to the light, or die"). There were some text revolving around Yrel and/or some light imbued orcs terrorizing the others, if i remember correctly.

We already got a hint of the light's "not so nice" viewpoint when the naaru tried to force illidan to accept his "fate".

So it might be a reason for revisiting the story of all characters of the light, and bringing their ingame components and astethics to the current level.

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18 minutes ago, Lawrenz said:

So it might be a reason for revisiting the story of all characters of the light, and bringing their ingame components and astethics to the current level.

We might also see the spirit of Uther playing a role somehow. Maybe a character that is devoted to the light sees these things happening and starts to doubt their faith, then seeks the wisdom of someone that "knew" the light? A Paladin would definitely respect Uther enough to seek out wisdom from him.

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2 hours ago, Blainie said:

We might also see the spirit of Uther playing a role somehow. Maybe a character that is devoted to the light sees these things happening and starts to doubt their faith, then seeks the wisdom of someone that "knew" the light? A Paladin would definitely respect Uther enough to seek out wisdom from him.

when you sey the one "a character" are you thinking in Turalyon too?

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2 hours ago, Demenzel said:

when you sey the one "a character" are you thinking in Turalyon too?

He's a possibility, but I'd say Arator is more so - his father is completely devoted to the light, his mother wields the powers of the Void, a supposedly evil force being used in the name of good. 

If the rumours surrounding certain characters are true and their intentions, his questions about the light are probably going to be flowing freely.

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1 hour ago, Blainie said:

his mother wields the powers of the Void, a supposedly evil force being used in the name of good. 

This is really hard to say, "shadow" and "void" used to be different things. Demons used to be exclusively "fel", and a "void lord" wasn't a demon in early lore. We've seen the Burning Legion use both Fel and Shadow for their demons and magic in Legion (Hellfire Citadel springs to mind, with the raidboss Xhul'horac being a literal "shadowfel amalgamation")

 

In the early days - from what I understand - Shadow was just one side of the coin that also had Light. One couldn't exist without the other. Void however, used to thrive the more of it there is. Shadow and Light used to balance each other out.

 

Now, Void and Shadow are being used interchangeably on top of Fel being used interchangeably with Shadow. It turned into a mess in my opinion. Fel and Void were inherently evil while Shadow wasn't. But since Legion, even Light has shown its dark side (no pun intended), which is contradicting, because that's exactly what made Shadow risky and what it was used for.

 

Now Shadow (Alleria) is used for good and Light has shown to corrupt. It is simply no longer clear what's good or bad. Light - and to certain extent, Arcane - were the only magics allowed in the earlier empires, and for good reason.

 

Now Light can be considered worse than Shadow, which means "the general population" might be happier seeing Warlocks strolling the streets with their demons out rather than see a priest preach the Light in the cathedral.

 

It makes no sense. It's Archbishop Benedictus all over again.

 

 

TL;DR: 

 

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14 hours ago, Blainie said:

He's a possibility, but I'd say Arator is more so - his father is completely devoted to the light, his mother wields the powers of the Void, a supposedly evil force being used in the name of good. 

If the rumours surrounding certain characters are true and their intentions, his questions about the light are probably going to be flowing freely.

So Alleria = Lillith, Turalyon = Inarius and Arator is the first nephalem born out of demons and angels. World of Diablocraft is here :D

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15 hours ago, Yridaa said:

Now Shadow (Alleria) is used for good and Light has shown to corrupt. It is simply no longer clear what's good or bad. Light - and to certain extent, Arcane - were the only magics allowed in the earlier empires, and for good reason.

I'd say the only neutral force nowadays would be Life - it's pretty consistently been either good or passive, but I can't think of actual Life/Nature being evil at any point. Only when corrupted by another magic.

15 hours ago, Yridaa said:

Now Light can be considered worse than Shadow, which means "the general population" might be happier seeing Warlocks strolling the streets with their demons out rather than see a priest preach the Light in the cathedral.

This will depend on how much the gen. pop. actually know. For many of them, Naaru, Army of the Light, Illidan etc. are just elaborate tales that happened on another planet. They've never seen a Naaru, they haven't been on the Vindicaar, they never saw Illidan.

They could just as easily continue following the Light unless we specifically remove it as an option for them.

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2 hours ago, Seksi said:

So Alleria = Lillith, Turalyon = Inarius and Arator is the first nephalem born out of demons and angels. World of Diablocraft is here :D

New MMO confirmed

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36 minutes ago, Blainie said:

I'd say the only neutral force nowadays would be Life - it's pretty consistently been either good or passive, but I can't think of actual Life/Nature being evil at any point. Only when corrupted by another magic.

That's hard to say. Even life magic corrupted some parts of the world. I believe that Quilboars (descendants from Agamaggan) slowly became corrupt over time for example, long before the shenanigans going on in Razorfen Downs.

 

Although admittedly, this is the only example that I know of in which life magic corrupted its environment.

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21 minutes ago, Yridaa said:

That's hard to say. Even life magic corrupted some parts of the world. I believe that Quilboars (descendants from Agamaggan) slowly became corrupt over time for example, long before the shenanigans going on in Razorfen Downs.

Although admittedly, this is the only example that I know of in which life magic corrupted its environment.

I'm wondering how much of the Quilboars was due to corruption by magic, though. You could say that they are just doing as nature intends. There is limited land, food, etc. for the Quils/Orcs/Tauren etc., so are they forced to be aggressive? Like a bear needing to feed, for example?

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8 hours ago, Seksi said:

So Alleria = Lillith, Turalyon = Inarius and Arator is the first nephalem born out of demons and angels. World of Diablocraft is here :D

 

6 hours ago, Blainie said:

New MMO confirmed

Game Director = Zecharia Sitchin

The Vindicaar is renamed to "Chariot of the Gods".

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8 hours ago, Blainie said:

I'm wondering how much of the Quilboars was due to corruption by magic, though. You could say that they are just doing as nature intends. There is limited land, food, etc. for the Quils/Orcs/Tauren etc., so are they forced to be aggressive? Like a bear needing to feed, for example?

Hmm, that's some food for thought for sure but Agamaggan's spirit did mention they strayed from his path or vision or what he called it; there was definitely something wrong if even he (it?) wanted to put a stop to them.

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On 16.5.2018 at 1:21 AM, Yridaa said:

Hmm, that's some food for thought for sure but Agamaggan's spirit did mention they strayed from his path or vision or what he called it; there was definitely something wrong if even he (it?) wanted to put a stop to them.

True. They probably started to get more aggressive due to threats to them, then took it too far. That's probably when Aga started to disapprove. Attacking Orcish/Tauren wagons to try and scare them, for example.

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