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Azerite Gear Tradable & Artifact Power Catchup Coming Next Week

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Azerite gear will be tradable next week and an the Artifact Power catchup will be activated, meaning you'll need less AP to level up your Heart of Azeroth.

Check out our roundup of the latest Live Developer Q/A with Game Director Ion Hazzikostas for more details.

Azerite Armor

Ion admitted they've made a mistake with Azerite gear and the current plan is to roll out a hotfix that will take effect with weekly resets next week that makes Azerite gear tradable like other pieces of items (equipment, weapons) as long as you have something of that item level or better in that slot. The reason why they made Azerite gear non-tradable in the first place was to avoid social pressure that comes with Personal Loot and Azerite gear complexity. They didn't want players to abuse the system by checking out possible Azerite traits and pick the player and/or class that would benefit most from that item.

Artifact Power Catchup

Starting next week, the amount of Artifact Power needed to level up your Heart of AzerothHeart of Azeroth will be reduced, meaning each rank will need less Artifact Power and the amount will continue to decrease every week. In Legion, we've ended up with big numbers for the Artifact Knowledge multiplier and they want to avoid that in Battle for Azeroth.

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Its really nice, that azeritgear will be tradeable. Man how many items we couldnt trade, when any of our guildmates needed it in mythicruns....kinda annoying.

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Ion admitted they've made a mistake with Azerite gear ...

Understatement. Of. The. Expansion.

(So far; just need clarification on pvp scaling, story development/explanation outside the game, iLvl inflation, ...)

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22 minutes ago, Bago said:

Ion admitted they've made a mistake with Azerite gear ...

Understatement. Of. The. Expansion.

(So far; just need clarification on pvp scaling, story development/explanation outside the game, iLvl inflation, ...)

The issue with ilvl inflation is that WoW has four difficulties and for progress to feel meaningful, they added Warforging/Titanforging. Add multiple raid tiers per expansion and you'll end up with a relatively high ilvl in the end. We're going to see an ilvl squish every other expansion according to Ion.

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1 hour ago, Stan said:

We're going to see an ilvl squish every other expansion according to Ion.

Which doesnt bother me any.  

Better than no progression feeling or numbers that are just absurd.

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1 hour ago, MrOger said:

Nice to see. But i still don't get the reason why they can't be titanforged, hope they will change that too.

And I don't get why anyone would want that to happen. War- and Titanforging only makes it harder to trade the stuff that other people need more than you. I get why solo players might thing it's a good idea, but trust me, it's a nightmare for organized raid groups. "Oh, I just got that item that you have been trying to get for 4 weeks now. I can't trade because Item level, and I can't use it because wrong stats. G f***ing G".

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3 hours ago, Vulmer said:

Are the players with high azerite level like 20+ gonna get "refunded" for the squish or something?

No, I don't think so.

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7 hours ago, Vulmer said:

Are the players with high azerite level like 20+ gonna get "refunded" for the squish or something?

nope the price u pay for grinding it i unsubbed but when or if i come back in 8.1 i go from rank 3 to rank 25 in one wq lol waiting has its advantages 

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11 hours ago, elmurufdd said:

nope the price u pay for grinding it i unsubbed but when or if i come back in 8.1 i go from rank 3 to rank 25 in one wq lol waiting has its advantages 

And that's exactly it's disadvantages. You aren't playing and will still be behind someone who plays as much as you do. I never understand why people think they should be refunded for already spending time to play the game. You don't ask for a refund after playing the full expansion because you find out another expansion will make the former obsolete. At least in this case.. You will still be ahead.

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19 hours ago, jinsu2301 said:

And I don't get why anyone would want that to happen. War- and Titanforging only makes it harder to trade the stuff that other people need more than you. I get why solo players might thing it's a good idea, but trust me, it's a nightmare for organized raid groups. "Oh, I just got that item that you have been trying to get for 4 weeks now. I can't trade because Item level, and I can't use it because wrong stats. G f***ing G".

Yours is completely different issue that comes from deletion of master loot. It has nothing to do with titanforging. I agree that it's total bs.

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Just now, MrOger said:

Your is completely different issue that comes from deletion of master loot. It has nothing to do with titanforging.

WF/TF increases the chance that I can't trade stuff I don't need, so it makes personal loot even worse than it is. It's not the root of the problem, but it adds to the problem. It's not a seperate issue.

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4 hours ago, jinsu2301 said:

WF/TF increases the chance that I can't trade stuff I don't need, so it makes personal loot even worse than it is. It's not the root of the problem, but it adds to the problem. It's not a seperate issue.

He's right, you know. If they only let you trade with someone, who is already wearing that piece of gear of the same ilvl or higher than the one you are trying to trade (which is basically what I think how it works, correct me if I'm wrong), WF/TF indeed limits possible trades as those items are naturally of higher ilvl.

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3 hours ago, Evincare said:

If they only let you trade with someone, who is already wearing that piece of gear of the same ilvl or higher than the one you are trying to trade (which is basically what I think how it works, correct me if I'm wrong),

I may be misunderstanding you but it's not the recipient's gear item level but the trader.

On ‎8‎/‎24‎/‎2018 at 10:21 AM, Stan said:

as long as you have something of that item level or better in that slot.

so you can trade an item as long as it wouldn't be an upgrade for you or has a higher ilevel.

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21 minutes ago, JJ77 said:

I may be misunderstanding you but it's not the recipient's gear item level but the trader.

so you can trade an item as long as it wouldn't be an upgrade for you or has a higher ilevel.

Ok I see. That way it makes a little more sense. So it basically comes down to ilvl vs. stats. Assuming I wear a 350 piece with optimal secondaries, that would mean i cannot trade a WF/TF one with say 360 ilvl but stupid secondaries for my class/spec. Technically that 360 item wouldn't be an upgrade for me, but I guess, it still would not be tradeable. It comes down to ilvl alone I guess. I doubt they have raidbot-like sims implemented running in the background 🙂

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On 8/25/2018 at 3:50 PM, Evincare said:

Technically that 360 item wouldn't be an upgrade for me,

This is the whole issue they were trying to correct by 'minimizing' secondary stats, as it was intended anyway.

im sure there will always be class/spec combo that value them more than the other, but the intent was to make it 'more main stat = always better than any secondaries'.

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3 hours ago, PatrickHenry said:

This is the whole issue they were trying to correct by 'minimizing' secondary stats, as it was intended anyway.

im sure there will always be class/spec combo that value them more than the other, but the intent was to make it 'more main stat = always better than any secondaries'.

only problem with this idea is main stat is almost always worse than secondaries with most spec haste staved . even is main stat means higher dps it will still play liek crap without haste . i didnt even put any azerite gear on til 117 cuz secondaries made me hit harder til the squish got bad enough 

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13 hours ago, PatrickHenry said:

This is the whole issue they were trying to correct by 'minimizing' secondary stats, as it was intended anyway.

im sure there will always be class/spec combo that value them more than the other, but the intent was to make it 'more main stat = always better than any secondaries'.

As far as I can tell, secondaries not quite as big an issue as it was in legion - but far from negligible. I mean if they go by that logic, they could've just deleted secondary stats in the first place 😄. Then again, we are not yet wearing endgame raiding gear so things might change.

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22 hours ago, elmurufdd said:

even is main stat means higher dps it will still play liek crap without haste .

Playing like crap is a tough metric to chase.

Pure numerical dps is one they can generally tune around.  

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