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Blizzard unveiled the "Lost Honor" cinematic during the opening ceremony at BlizzCon, starring Varok Saurfang and King Anduin.

You can find more details about Saurfang's Fate in Patch 8.1 here.

A prisoner within the heart of the Alliance seat of power, Varok Saurfang is confronted not only by King Anduin Wrynn, but the choices that lie before him.

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There are enough people who died because of this old fool still clinging to his boy-maximalist "honor". I hope he will find the death he seeks soon enough.

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I mean, I had decided to just embrace Blizzard's bad writing and go full morally gray, accept Sylvanas' plans, serve my Queen and drop BASIC Campfires on all Night Elves I killed (which aren't a lot, but the action counts and THEY BASIC anyway).

And now, they go and release this and they expect us to believe this is not Garrosh 2.0. I like collecting Toys, but I think I am gonna pass on that "Save Saurfang" storyline.

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It's totally not gonna be like Garrosh 2.0

We're simply going to repeat the initial TERRIBLE choice for a successor to Warchief, going to have that warchief commit evil and despotic deeds.    Then we're going to have an honorable hero of the horde quietly start a rebellion while telling the player to "play along" with the warchief for now while they do some work.     We're going to watch as that warchief incompetently alienates even more of the horde, kills a lot of innocents, and lays waste to the land with corruption.     We're then going to lead a raid to kill or capture (lol, that 2nd option has always worked well...) the warchief and install some placeholder who'll die to random bullplop in a year after doing nothing.

Totally not garrosh 2.0.   I mean, Garrosh isn't even in this story.

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Stopping Sylvanas doesn't necessarily mean killing her in a raid. If you follow her storyline, she clearly holds on to regrets from her time alive and has powerful mixed emotions about her predicament. in order to stuff that down and hide it, she's gone full, pardon the term, chunnibyou about her suffering and what it means to be forsaken yadda yadda.

 

So there's still the possibility that her story can be turned around by making her realize her mistakes and what she's doing to the Horde and to Azeroth and that she's slowly becoming like the thing she hated the most, Arthas.

 

We'll probably just see a lame-o garrosh 2.0 outcome, but we aren't there yet so I'll lightly hold onto some hope for her.

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There's going to be no redemption for Sylvanas.  There can be none for what she's done.  But you're right she doesn't have to die or end up in a raid, though her ending up in a raid doesn't mean she really dies.  I mean, we "killed" Illidan in a raid.

It's villains who really drive the story so keeping her around as a villain, letting the Horde return to possible less-than-villain aspirations with her removed but banished is a possibility, allowing her to return as an independent aggressor with her own version of The Scourge works too.  Then even if she eventually ends up as a boss in a raid she's still not the same as Garrosh 2.0 and more like Arthas 2.0

But she has to go from The Horde one way or the other, or they just have to start being honest about being on the side of evil, which creates a conflict with at least The Tauren, if none of the other races can be motivated to give a crap because they've never been "good" to begin with, only having the potential to be that any being of free will does.

But people need to drop this idea of "morally gray" when talking about Sylvanas because it's just dumb.  She is not gray at all, that ship sailed before BfA even started.

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What a greate cinematic again, i just loved it. You can feel all the disapointment of both sides, emotions are capt so well. Even if there are people yelling "bad story writing/telling"...i do like the story so far and i'm really interested in Sylvanas destiney and how she probably is misguided by old gods?

Good job Blizzard, plz give us more ? !

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On 11/2/2018 at 2:41 PM, MrOger said:

There are enough people who died because of this old fool still clinging to his boy-maximalist "honor". I hope he will find the death he seeks soon enough.

You mean more deaths than sylvannas caused on her own when she blighted her own troops, that died in a war she obviously started?

More than that, you mean?

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