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Blizzard today clarified in a series of blue posts that clearing the new raid won't be required to unlock Zandalari Trolls and the Allied Race isn't coming with the raid or Mythic Season 2, but later in Patch 8.1.5 as stated at BlizzCon.

If you've been patiently waiting for the new Allied Races to arrive with Mythic Season 2 and Battle of Dazar'alor, you'll have to wait a little longer. Both Allied Races will arrive in Patch 8.1.5 and Blizzard also specified unlock requirements for both. The good news is that clearing the new raid isn't required to start the quest to recruit them, but you'll still need to complete the entire War Campaign up to the last chapter, reach Exalted with two factions, and complete the story of Kul Tiras & Zandalar.

Unlock Requirements

Allied Race Unlock Requirements
Kul Tiran Humans Exalted with Proudmoore Admiralty + Tides of Vengeance + Zandalar Forever! Zandalar Forever!
Zandalari Trolls Exalted with The Zandalari Empire + Tides of Vengeance + A Nation United A Nation United

Are you disappointed that Kul Tiran Humans and Zandalari Trolls will not be available in Tides of Vengeance or do you not mind at all? Let us know in the comments!

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I’m curious if I can unlock it today or if I have to wait for the new raid to go to raid finder, anyone know for sure?

At BlizzCon we talked about these Allied Races coming in Patch 8.1.5. It might feel like a new patch day with the season update and raid opening up today, but this is still the continuation of the Tides of Vengeance story. We will have more information on the Zandalari and Kul Tiran soon!

The wait sucks, but I’m at a point of apathy about it now. I wish more clear info would come out about to what extent raiding is related to unlocking the two races. Can the quest be done in LFR if a quest is needed?

There will be no raiding required. Some people may have seen the requirements on the PTR and we do plan to talk about them more to help spread the word.

As it currently stands, if you do the Zandalar quest arc (through the Blood Gate quest and Zul’s death), the War Campaign through the Tides of Vengeance achievement, and get Exalted with the Zandalari Empire, you will be able to do the questline to get access to the Zandalari Allied Race as soon as 8.1.5 goes live.

What are the requirements for Kul’tirans? I’m assuming something equivalant to the Zandalari but specifics matter.

Tides of Vengeance War Campaign achievement is the same. The story arc should be “A Nation United” achievement. Exalted with Proudmoore Admiralty.

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Story achievements are switched... I don't think I have to play the Horde story to unlock Kul Tiran Humans....

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I canceled my subscriptions and haven't played since almost back in November, probably wont come back till the trolls and tirans are released as they were the whole reason i even pre ordered the expansion in the first place.

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I preordered day 1 so I could get the new druids at launch since that was what everyone assumed... we'll be six months in before we get the damn things.

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I haven't played WoW in a bit, but back when I did, new races (and classes) were an expansion feature. Did Blizz ever explain what justified changing this on top of the gating?

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1 hour ago, Oxygen said:

I haven't played WoW in a bit, but back when I did, new races (and classes) were an expansion feature. Did Blizz ever explain what justified changing this on top of the gating?

Storywise it makes no sense,since Branduin welcomed Kul Tirans after the campaign and the whole Jaina incident,and as horde you're basicly thick as thieves with Talanji and the Loa.

I haven't been paying that much attention to their presentations or explanations but my input would be : - Play our game ! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ! - 

It does stand to reason that this way they can coax players into coming back with the release of Kul Tirans and Zandalari trolls,thus enhancing the numbers even with the repercussion of having unsatisfied players that expected this at launch.

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4 hours ago, Oxygen said:

I haven't played WoW in a bit, but back when I did, new races (and classes) were an expansion feature. Did Blizz ever explain what justified changing this on top of the gating?

Hopefully Ion gets asked this question and answers it straightforwardly in the next Q/A soon.

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40 minutes ago, Seksi said:

Hopefully Ion gets asked this question and answers it straightforwardly in the next Q/A soon.

Questions don't get answered straightforwardly in this industry unfortunatelly. We know it is to keep players hooked for longer and thus pay more money, but he will say some "pride and accomplishment"-stuff instead.

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For 10+ years of expansions we got 5 new races. In the last six months we got 6 new allied races and people are still complaining why the even newer ones aren't already available. In my opinion it's rather clear they don't want to upset the current raid tier and PvP season - both the Kul Tirans and Zandalaris have OP racial abilities that could imbalance the world first race and arena if not deployed with enough care.

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5 hours ago, Ogerscherge said:

Questions don't get answered straightforwardly in this industry unfortunatelly. We know it is to keep players hooked for longer and thus pay more money, but he will say some "pride and accomplishment"-stuff instead.

On the other hand for many it may have caused the opposite effect - they wanted to play these races earlier, but after 6 months they are just bored and won't bother.

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3 hours ago, Badadada said:

In my opinion it's rather clear they don't want to upset the current raid tier and PvP season

Im in your same opinion, at least as far as complaining about the arrival time (or lateness perhaps) of the new races.

Theyve said that since before expansion release, iirc.  It's old news.  People still want "good" explanations, which always ends up being "just give me the race."  Theyve explained why already.  And honestly even if they DIDNT outright explain it, We've already been either at direct conflict with, or at best a cold war/politically shunned with each faction.  

You dont go from zero to 60 quick in situations like that.  It makes sense that you have to prove yourself as not just a good ally, but a consistent one.  

Hell the Lightforged took downing a frickin TITAN to join the cause.  

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I'm not happy that they're not coming today, even though we all knew they wouldn't. I'm tired of waiting for Zandalari druids. The hype for them is just about dead at this point, and the PTR will still be at least 2 months from releasing, considering how it looks right now. If they wanna hype new cool forms of something, they shouldn't have done so to sell the game, and then not give it to us for over a half year. It's frustrating to say the least.

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Hey Guys, If I am exalted with proudmoore on one character but finished A Nation United on another character that isn't exalted do I unlock Kul'Tiran or do they all need to be on the same character!!! Hoping not, that rep grind is a pain and the character I have exalted was faction changed so I never did the alliance story line.

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17 hours ago, BlakeArmentrout said:

I canceled my subscriptions and haven't played since almost back in November, probably wont come back till the trolls and tirans are released as they were the whole reason i even pre ordered the expansion in the first place.

Its already almost half a year after the expansion release, the races are still not unlocked. A very cheap way to tempt you to either use a level boost or pay for race change. 

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On 1/23/2019 at 9:41 PM, spazzer said:

Hey Guys, If I am exalted with proudmoore on one character but finished A Nation United on another character that isn't exalted do I unlock Kul'Tiran or do they all need to be on the same character!!! Hoping not, that rep grind is a pain and the character I have exalted was faction changed so I never did the alliance story line.

It shouldn't matter so long as you completed the achievements, you should be able to create a Kul Tiran when 8.1.5 goes live, oh, and let's not forget about the War Campaign requirement.

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