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While I am excited to see what builds will surface from the LoN effect with free ring slots (I can see every class benefiting from those slots fairly enough) the ancient gating is just like meh, combined with it being seasonal-only you are now "free to enjoy mindless grind till you have every slot ancient (thus start being 10% as a efficient as with an actual set), now get out there and find those BiS^2 GL to you all!"
But then I am just a filthy casual who never really gets every slot ancient even on sets.
I graze the top of the leaderboards in the first week and bail without even getting para 1K. I have little say.

I am eager to try the PTR though, once the servers are actually up when I attempt to. Absurd PTR droprates will remedy every problem I have.

Simple solution? Give the LoN half effect for non-ancients too, this is how you actually get people to try new things instead of "oh I wish I could try that out, but meh, gated."

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22 minutes ago, Koxsos said:

Simple solution? Give the LoN half effect for non-ancients too, this is how you actually get people to try new things instead of "oh I wish I could try that out, but meh, gated."

I totally agree.

And on top of that: I never had enough space in my inventory. That's why I destroyed lots of items, and ancients too.

Because I never imagined being able to use them because sets were always stronger.

If we had unlimited space I would have saved all my ancient items - maybe I would have quite a lot to use this build.

Then I may be interested in farming some more.

I never understood the limited space - where is the harm in giving people as much space as they want?

D3 is about loot for fucks sake, let people keep as much of them as they like.

Not as much as the developers see fit.

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Honestly, while I totally understand your issues, there will be easy ancients. The 3 new torments will see SO many legendaries dropping that getting an ancient now will be basically the same as getting a normal legendary was back when t6 was the max difficulty.

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Do you know anything about droprates of the new torments?

If you take GR as an example, there drop more legendaries the higher the GR - but the percentage of Ancient is still the same.

Approx. 10%. At most 1 per run. And most of the time (at least that is my feeling) it is a weapon...

Sure, you can farm it, it wont take ages.

But my motivation of refarming items is not really high.

However, I totally agree with you that the LoN buff is great. I am sure you won't be the only one who is hyped about it 🙂

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Here's the thing @WedgeAntilles, even if it's 1 per GR run that's plenty for me. Basically my aim/point in the articke isn't that we'll get the full LoN build ultra fast and destroy with it, it's that EACH new ancient you get adds to your build. Basically I plan to swap instantly when i have like 3 ancients and then every one that drops after that will massively enhance my char and change my build. So it won't really matter if they're relatively infrequent, in fact that might actually be a plus. Because it's the journey to the full ancient max GR farm that I'm looking forward to. Once i get the full set of ancients needed for the perfect build I'll basically stop playing and move on to another class.

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If you really like combat so much I envy you. Sure I enjoy smoothness of controls and movement but when it comes to endgame... All these builds where we have to run around waiting for 10 sec dmg and even being glass cannon getting 1 shot makes me frustrated and sick. These are broken playstyles, not fun and main issue with the game for me. I prefer to be able to constantly deal damage not rely on some weird cooldown mechanics and be more tanky without risk of getting one shot on every mob. No such problems in other arpgs.

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1 hour ago, Kaelos said:

If you really like combat so much I envy you. Sure I enjoy smoothness of controls and movement but when it comes to endgame... All these builds where we have to run around waiting for 10 sec dmg and even being glass cannon getting 1 shot makes me frustrated and sick. These are broken playstyles, not fun and main issue with the game for me. I prefer to be able to constantly deal damage not rely on some weird cooldown mechanics and be more tanky without risk of getting one shot on every mob. No such problems in other arpgs.

That's not an issue of the combat/builds though, it's because of the stupid endlessly scaling GR system. Basically you're either an indestructable god with *filtered* damage or 1 shottable infinite damage dude. It's just a flawed concept and has nothing to do with the actual combat. And I absolutely agree with you the edngame is bad, but that's why it's all about the builds for me, not pushing some pointless GR13034324324. Basically finding a cool and interesting build IS the endgame for me. Once i get it and have fun with it I move on to the next one/next class.

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People expect too much for a game that has no way of receiving financial gains after it has been sold.

 

 

For a game with no way for people to financially support this game through microtransactions, Blizzard has been doing an excellent job and have been generous.

 

 

 

 

Some of you really expect people will bills and a family to create you the best game forever and ever when you only pay them like $ 60 up front ? Depending on when you got into d3. 

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Honestly, I 100% relate to this article. Diablo has been an amazing series that I've been involved with since I was a child. And I have a love/hate relationship with Diablo 3 due to how glaring the issues are, despite how fun and addicting the gameplay can be. Much like you, the different legendaries, kanais cube, LoN were my favorite additions to the game due to how diverse and cheesy the builds can be. Don't get me wrong, set items can be fun, but it limits creativity by a good margin and becomes boring real fast. The only set item i really enjoyed was the Monkey King Garb for the monk because you had varying paths to choose from. My only complaint about this season is that the seasonal buff is the exact same as the ring set, if maybe they increased by 250% more as an additional incentive I probably would be back to play the season. But two extra ring slots is not enough. Maybe I'll check it out, but I've exhausted every ounce of creativity I had. 

 

This was a great article and refreshing to see due to the overwhelmingly amount of hate the game received after launch.

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3 hours ago, greatCraft said:

People expect too much for a game that has no way of receiving financial gains after it has been sold

For a game with no way for people to financially support this game through microtransactions, Blizzard has been doing an excellent job and have been generous.

Some of you really expect people will bills and a family to create you the best game forever and ever when you only pay them like $ 60 up front ? Depending on when you got into d3. 

Yea it's been getting really weird with people's complaints lately. It's either unreasonable defense of games because people like them OR absolute blinding hatered based on a couple of good points and then nothing else. Diablo 3 has made so little money after it's initial release it's not even funny. If Reaper of Souls sold even half the number of copies d3 vanilla did, we'd have 3 more expansions already. So basically it's been like 5 years of 0 profit (the Necro didn't make any money, let's be real here) and yet everyone expects levels of quality update that rival games that have constant microtransactions that have had them forever. Now of course lack of funds doesn't excuse any poor game design decisions, but honestly, if this was 10 years ago, no one would bat an eye. How many updates did Diablo 2 get?

42 minutes ago, Rhondis said:

Honestly, I 100% relate to this article. Diablo has been an amazing series that I've been involved with since I was a child. And I have a love/hate relationship with Diablo 3 due to how glaring the issues are, despite how fun and addicting the gameplay can be. Much like you, the different legendaries, kanais cube, LoN were my favorite additions to the game due to how diverse and cheesy the builds can be. Don't get me wrong, set items can be fun, but it limits creativity by a good margin and becomes boring real fast. The only set item i really enjoyed was the Monkey King Garb for the monk because you had varying paths to choose from. My only complaint about this season is that the seasonal buff is the exact same as the ring set, if maybe they increased by 250% more as an additional incentive I probably would be back to play the season. But two extra ring slots is not enough. Maybe I'll check it out, but I've exhausted every ounce of creativity I had. 

 

This was a great article and refreshing to see due to the overwhelmingly amount of hate the game received after launch.

Thanks. TO be fair some of the criticism at launch was warranted, but the funny part is that it was the WRONG criticism that got the most attention (cartoony gfx etc). The item system was a disaster and the RMAH just made it worse and worse. I remember i was the only one out of my group of friends playing that got his items self-found with no AH, everyone else just shopped cheap upgrades and if they got a really good drop, they'd sell it either for tons of gold (with which they'd buy more upgrades) or cash. But the core was always there and was really amazing.

It's just SO sad to me that they didn't do 1-2 more big expansions, they couldn've made a truly amazing game out of it. Nowadays every game only finds its true self after an expansion or two since the base game always caters to the masses and it *filtered* for it *cough*Destiny 2*cough*.

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1 hour ago, Starym said:

Thanks. TO be fair some of the criticism at launch was warranted, but the funny part is that it was the WRONG criticism that got the most attention (cartoony gfx etc). The item system was a disaster and the RMAH just made it worse and worse. I remember i was the only one out of my group of friends playing that got his items self-found with no AH, everyone else just shopped cheap upgrades and if they got a really good drop, they'd sell it either for tons of gold (with which they'd buy more upgrades) or cash. But the core was always there and was really amazing.

Honestly I never found graphics to be that big of an issue. Sure they are not as "dark" and "gloomy" as it's past predecessors, but people have to remember that the graphics back then are completely different, so of course D1 and D2 will have that dark gritty look compared to D3's more polished and brighter look. But yea, at launch D3 did have many many issues. RoS arguably saved the game in my opinion, I didn't get back into D3 until RoS dropped along with the bountiful of large patches that added more and more to the game as time went on. But yet people still complained for the same exact reasons. It's so bad that even when they post an update or create a post on any social media, they can't be helped by getting swarmed by mainly haters who have quit D3 when it first launched and never once touched an RoS era of D3. 

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t's just SO sad to me that they didn't do 1-2 more big expansions, they couldn've made a truly amazing game out of it. Nowadays every game only finds its true self after an expansion or two since the base game always caters to the masses and it *filtered* for it *cough*Destiny 2*cough*.

Man, you have no idea how high my hopes were about the addition of another expansion. I was very convinced and optimistic of a second expansion due to RoS's success but as each year passes by with little to no information regarding the future of one of my beloved games I just ended up disappointed and frustrated at Blizzard. I agree, with another expansion they could have made the game even more enjoyable, they could have fixed more glaring issues, they could have polished the game even further but alas I guess that will not be the case this time around.

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I would have liked you to have gone more in-depth about why you think the new torment levels coming in the patch to be a good or bad thing. Rhykker for example mentioned he thinks it's a bad thing because there will be less builds that are viable to handle torment 16 (grift 75) and thus discourage build diversity (at least until everyone has their LoN active, I suppose!).

But on the other hand, most builds were already able to spam t13 in under a minute and a half; having higher torments to reward with (we can fairly assume although it hasn't been explicitly stated) more death breaths per elite pack is also nice. In the worst case, I guess, there's always the sage set (but that invalidates LoN, but still absolutely worth the offset to farm) buff that doubles DB drops instead of just +1.

 

What are your thoughts on these parts of S17 and does this also play a role in your motivation to come back to D3 for Season 17?

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As someone who still plays, but doesn't push to get leaderboard achievements, this is exciting. Its not going to be about pushing to find the best set pieces in as liftle time as possible. I still play this game with friends, and its genuinely some of the most fun I've ever had. If leaderboard progression isn't for you, then fine. Dont do it. If you don't want to push GR100+, then don't. Play the game how you want to play it. If the continued seasons don't give you anymore enjoyment, you can always pick up another game. You should be spending your time how you want to, and I plan to do it by playing a game with some friends. 😉

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Fantastic article, @Starym. I liked seeing your perspective, and I also agree that Season of Nightmares could be the best season yet as it doesn't force you into using Sets and enforcing a specific gameplay style. I really hope they get rid of Sets in D4, because that streamlines the gameplay so much (even though Leapquake is my favorite gameplay style ever).

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2 hours ago, Yridaa said:

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I would have liked you to have gone more in-depth about why you think the new torment levels coming in the patch to be a good or bad thing. Rhykker for example mentioned he thinks it's a bad thing because there will be less builds that are viable to handle torment 16 (grift 75) and thus discourage build diversity (at least until everyone has their LoN active, I suppose!).

But on the other hand, most builds were already able to spam t13 in under a minute and a half; having higher torments to reward with (we can fairly assume although it hasn't been explicitly stated) more death breaths per elite pack is also nice. In the worst case, I guess, there's always the sage set (but that invalidates LoN, but still absolutely worth the offset to farm) buff that doubles DB drops instead of just +1.

 

What are your thoughts on these parts of S17 and does this also play a role in your motivation to come back to D3 for Season 17?

Can't say I understand that logic tbh. I suppose it's one of those "If I'm not optimized for the absolute hardest/best farm thing ever then I won't play my build" thing, but I'm not sure that's that relevant for the majority of the playerbase. Personally I'll simply play the highest possible torment I can with the build I find most fun.

Also, with the changes coming to the Sage set (DOUBLE the death's breath's dropped) I feel farming will not be an issue whatsoever on whichever pos-6 torment you choose.

Actually, you know what? I'll write up another article going more in-depth on what I plan to do in the season at least in terms of gearing up, maybe outline the many various ways we'll be able to play to get to those optimal Lon builds (which I have to say I couldn't give less of a *filtered* about. Being optimized is ruining Diablo for me.) I skipped a lot of that here cos the article was already getting really big.

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1 hour ago, Valhalen said:

Fantastic article, @Starym. I liked seeing your perspective, and I also agree that Season of Nightmares could be the best season yet as it doesn't force you into using Sets and enforcing a specific gameplay style. I really hope they get rid of Sets in D4, because that streamlines the gameplay so much (even though Leapquake is my favorite gameplay style ever).

They can make leapquake style builds work with simple legendaries as well. You just dont add the 1283721837218732817% damage bonus and slap the earthquake on leap effect on 1 legendary (maybe even have it reduce eq damage for balance) and voila, it opens up 5 slots for additional legendary fun and build making.

I mean look, i TOTALLY understand why sets are a thing. Balancing this amount of abilities is a NIGHTMARE, but I'd rather have an unbalanced game with many options, than a balanced one with few.

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4 minutes ago, Starym said:

They can make leapquake style builds work with simple legendaries as well. You just dont add the 1283721837218732817% damage bonus and slap the earthquake on leap effect on 1 legendary (maybe even have it reduce eq damage for balance) and voila, it opens up 5 slots for additional legendary fun and build making.

I mean look, i TOTALLY understand why sets are a thing. Balancing this amount of abilities is a NIGHTMARE, but I'd rather have an unbalanced game with many options, than a balanced one with few.

It is the godamn Leaderboards. People care about that way too much. D2 was an unbalanced mess, but it was fun as heck.

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19 minutes ago, Starym said:

Balancing this amount of abilities is a NIGHTMARE, but I'd rather have an unbalanced game with many options, than a balanced one with few.

 

14 minutes ago, Valhalen said:

It is the godamn Leaderboards. People care about that way too much. D2 was an unbalanced mess, but it was fun as heck.

 

This, totally this.

It was just fun to create your own builds of which some blew away Blizzard's expectations of what numbers would show up in D2. In D3 things are much more "tight" in terms of what you can do. Take the Twister sword for example in D3; people figured out a way to keep the stacks rolling and blizzard says "hey, that's cool and all, but we're going to cap the amount of stacks you can have now to 5".

I understand why they do it (leaderboards) but it goes to show that Blizzard clearly doesn't want you to exceed any of their expectations by X Y or Z margins, they'll just cut it right down.

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1 hour ago, Yridaa said:

This, totally this.

It was just fun to create your own builds of which some blew away Blizzard's expectations of what numbers would show up in D2. In D3 things are much more "tight" in terms of what you can do. Take the Twister sword for example in D3; people figured out a way to keep the stacks rolling and blizzard says "hey, that's cool and all, but we're going to cap the amount of stacks you can have now to 5".

I understand why they do it (leaderboards) but it goes to show that Blizzard clearly doesn't want you to exceed any of their expectations by X Y or Z margins, they'll just cut it right down.

The leaderboards thing is also just a red herring imo. It's really easy to just make them a separate mode aka you just "ban" powerful items from them or you can choose to play "non leaderboards" mode at char creation (like 99% of people would chose non leaderboard) and then you don't have to nerf anything in that one. Sure that makes for a mess in terms of same items with different stats and abiltities but so what.

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What really needs to be done is add a few new characters to the game.

We have so many builds but no new characters in the game,that's what Blizzard need to do and maybe the game will become fun again,also they need to add is a few more lvls of torment.

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Season 16 has been incredible, even though yet again the WW barb was very weak.

Sadly, Season 17 looks even worse for the WW barb. Losing the RoRG will mean bye-bye hexing pants (or swamp waders) so less damage and no LoN option for WW (the sword set is absolutely required for WW, and the Wastes armor set is pretty close as well).

As someone who has loved WW barb since D2, it is a bummer that this iconic and amazingly fun build/character continues to be ignored and left so weak and cruddy. 

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Fjord Cutter You are surrounded by a Chilling Aura when attacking. New Legendary Power: Seismic Slam attacks 50% faster and also deals 100-150% increased damage against Slowed or Chilled enemies Bracers of Destruction Seismic Slam deals [400-500%] increased damage to the first 5 10 enemies it hits. Fury of the Ancients Call of the Ancients gains the effect of the Ancients' Fury rune and your Ancients attack 100% faster Bone Ringer Now has a cap of 60 stacks. Developer Note: We never intended for this item to be used in a way where you farm stacks for an egregious amount of time (5+ minutes) and then watch all their health disappear in less than a second. It's not an engaging style of gameplay, and we don't want that experience to be the best way to play the Necromancer. Legacy of Dreams This gem is now more likely to drop from a Greater Rift Guardian Return to Top Monsters
      Blighter Blighter's Poison Tentacles' Area of Effect now hits less frequently, but at higher damage, when attacking players Return to Top Bug Fixes
      Wizard Archon Fixed an issue where certain item bonuses (such as from the item Deathwish) would persist between changing forms to/from Archon Developer's Note: A few patches ago, we stated we were going to continue to observe Bazooka Wizard to see its performance over time. Back then, we thought it would require a high level of skill to execute that would make it relatively less utilized as a hard, but rewarding, gameplay option. That hasn't been the case, as many feel it's too mandatory. In the context of this and other changes (like Bone Ringer and Chantodo's), we think it makes sense to make this change now. Spite Fixed an issue where casting Restless Giant would cause the 200% physical bonus damage to fail to apply when the Gargantuan enraged Squirt's Necklace Fixed an issue where some ground effects were causing the Squirt's Necklace buff to fall off despite being shielded Return to Top The patch is here and the notes are significantly changed sine the PTR.
         

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    • By Starym
      UPDATE: The patch is now live with many changes from the PTR notes, and Season 19 will NOT be coming this Friday. Check out more details and the full patch notes here.

      We'll be seeing an end to the current Diablo 3 Era when patch 2.6.7 aka Season 19 arrives, meaning  the main, non-seasonal, leaderboards will reset. As for when exactly the patch will arrive, the safe bet is this Friday, November 15th, as that's how long the between-season downtime has been for the past two seasons.

      Season 19, the season of Eternal Conflict, will feature a new system of combos, where you'll get a specific effect trigger after a specific killstreak, as well as a flat damage and move speed buff, stacking  up to 1000 kills. We'll also get new Crusader and Monk sets, new legendary items/powers and a lot more!  Check out the patch notes from the PTR for all the info, as we still wait for the official ones to release:
      Patch 2.6.7 (Season 19) full patch notes (PTR)
       
      Era End (source)
      With the major balance changes and new class sets being introduced in Patch 2.6.7, we’ll be ending the current Era and beginning the next with the deployment of our next patch.
      For more information on Eras and our philosophy around them, please refer to this blog post . Thanks for your participation, and we’ll see you in Patch 2.6.7!
      And in case you forgot just what exactly Eras were and what they do, here's the post explaining it:
      Eras (source)
      Hi, everybody. Wyatt Cheng here again with a second installment of Developer Chronicles. Today, let’s discuss Eras.
      When we introduced Seasons to Diablo III, we also debuted "Eras." The thinking was that while the seasonal leaderboard would naturally reset every season, there would be some players who would want the non-seasonal leaderboard to reset periodically as well. There is a certain excitement associated with a fresh leaderboard—a sense that you could maybe see your own name up there at the beginning of an Era. It can also be disheartening to see somebody who is not currently playing the game hold a top position on a leaderboard long after the record was set.
      As Diablo III has evolved, it has become clear in hindsight that while the fresh excitement is there, it doesn’t last very long. First, the Era leaderboard is not something you "climb." If you are capable of achieving a particular Greater Rift tier, you're likely able to replicate that performance, or very close to it, at the very start of a new Era. Second, between patch changes, item buffs, and Paragon levels, there is built-in power growth over time—the concern of somebody holding a high Era ranking long after they've quit hasn’t really materialized.
      Eras Going Forward
      It has been our plan for some time to stop advancing the Era count every time a new season occurs. Expect that to be the norm moving forward. We are looking to move Eras to be 6–12 months in length.
      Besides simply allowing Eras to be 6–12 months long, there is an additional circumstance in which we feel an Era reset will still be warranted: when we expect that the highest attainable Greater Rift is going to go down. As an example, in patch 2.4.2, we made changes to the Twisted Sword, Energy Twister, and crowd control mechanics that caused the highest cleared Greater Rift to go down. When we have strong reason to believe the highest cleared Greater Rift will significantly drop, we do need to advance the Era to keep the non-seasonal leaderboard from going stale. Though this was the case in 2.4.2, expect Eras to advance less frequently moving forward.
      This brings us to a related question. When an Era advances, is it done before a patch goes live or after? The answer to this depends on the intent of Eras. Previously we advanced an Era as soon as a Season ended. This was back when there were season-specific items. The Era would advance in order to record the state of the non-seasonal leaderboards before all the season-specific items were transitioned to non-seasonal. We no longer have season-specific items and there is greatly reduced value in trying to memorialize the leaderboards at that particular moment in time. However, when we expect patch changes to cause the previous top ranks to be difficult or impossible to beat, it makes more sense to advance the Era AFTER the patch has gone live. Advancing the Era before the patch goes live would cause some players to lock in high ranks that become unbeatable once the patch hits. Advancing after the patch goes live allows players in the new Era to compete in a fresh environment based on the balance of the current live patch.
      To summarize, seasons are for those who want a recurring fresh experience; Eras should represent periods of time closer to a year.
    • By Starym
      There was a change to the PTR version of patch 2.6.7 in the client that was at BlizzCon, with the new legendary power for Lamentation being taken off - meaning the 200% buff to Rend is no longer on the item at all. This caused a lot of discussion and complaint from the barbarian community, started by well known barb advocate Free, and today we finally got a response on the matter from Nevalistis, the Diablo community manager.
      In short, the buff will not be there when the patch releases because they felt it was too strong, but Barbarians will get a tuning pass at a later date, as they're doing for Crusaders and Monks this season (with a new set etc). 
      Lamentation Buff Removed (source)
      Okay, time for me to be unpopular. All part of the job, though. Hang tight, this is gonna be wordy.
      We did, indeed, remove the Lamentation bonus in the release client build for Patch 2.6.7, which was the build that streamers and BlizzCon attendees were shown on the show floor. In an ideal world, I would have had a chance to contextualize this change before the convention. Unfortunately, I did not have that opportunity between my other job duties for the show and titles I support (including Diablo IV and Diablo Immortal, both which had presence at the show).
      Normally, when a change like this happens, I find it when I’m updating patch notes for release. This process didn’t occur until last Thursday, after I got back from the show and being home sick from a chest cold I’m still fighting off. My next step is to go to the developers, have some back and forth, and find out insights and intention behind the change. I add that to the patch notes, get it reviewed for accuracy, then come and make a post as soon as I can. That’s where we are right now.
      That’s all just background. Here’s what you came to read, and is what you’ll find in the patch notes once 2.6.7 launches:
      We’re trying to set up Barbarian to be in a better place with more individual knobs to turn so we can tune it better once we get to their new class set and balance pass. We actually want to maintain this process for all classes, too, so if you continue to have feedback on Monk and Crusader, keep it coming! There will always be opportunities to revisit any of these changes.
      It’s okay if you don’t like this answer. It’s awesome if you have feedback on it. And it’s the absolute best when you can present that feedback respectfully and constructively. I’ve seen a lot of that, and I’m grateful for it—I only wish I could reply to all of it!
      It’s taken a long time to get to this point. We’ve gone through many phases of balance for every class, and there have been ups and downs for everyone. Balance is nearly never a perfect process with a perfect end, and sometimes, no end at all. I’ve said it often before, and I will say it again: we’re not done yet. There’s more Diablo III left to come, and we’re going to continue to read your feedback, play the game, and bring updates to keep you sated in Sanctuary for as long as possible.
      RE: Communication being limited - I’ve kind of already touched on this, but I’m being as present as I can be. BlizzCon and Diablo III’s production schedule lined up in an unfortunate way (and getting sick didn’t help matters), but you have my personal commitment to being as communicative as I can be around patches and PTRs specifically. I wish I could have fulfilled this better around 2.6.7—it just wasn’t possible with the other priorities I had to fulfill.
      I won’t make excuses, but I will continue to do my best, and I’m grateful for an understanding, passionate community that I saw the best of just a little over a week ago. It was wonderful to see so many of you in person, to finally share my excitement for the future in an honest and open way, and I hope you enjoy the other things we have in store in Diablo III and beyond.
      Now, back to work for me. ?
      You should also really read the original post by Free, as it pretty clearly states why this change is problematic and where Barbs are right now in the meta.
       
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