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The Heroes Design team is looking for feedback on the latest Nexus Anomaly, the current thinking is to keep the Core changes permanently because they add unique flavor and cool moments to games, and this post focuses on the more controversial changes that have gone live for Structures, mainly Tower aggro.

Main Highlights

  • The team initially decided to pull out all of the Tower aggro changes in preparation for the next Anomaly, as they didn't think they were right for the game.
  • Once they removed the system, they started receiving feedback from across the team that this was the wrong decision, and that Tower aggro changes made the game feel better.
  • Left undecided, the Design team is currently looking for feedback, because they need to make a call soon, but they are not 100% sure what to do now.

Would you like the Tower aggro changes permanently added to the game?

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Hello fellow Heroes!

The Heroes Design team has been hard at work on our next seasonal content, including deciding what to do with the Call for Help Nexus Anomaly. We’re looking for feedback, and we wanted to take the time to give you some heavy insight into our thoughts, so strap yourselves in, this is going to be a doozy!

Firstly, we have already decided that we like what the changes to the Kings Core have brought to our game, and we want to keep those. We believe they give our maps a unique flavor and they add some cool moments to games. This article will be focused solely on the more controversial changes that were made to Towers, Forts, and Keeps in regards to how they interact with enemy Heroes. We think a good place to start is with what our goals were when we changed the Tower Aggro system.

We had two major goals with the system:

  1. We wanted players to feel like their Towers were “smart” about how they tried to protect members of their team. We have heard lots of feedback over the years that it’s frustrating that Towers will prioritize a nearby minion while an allied Hero is being attacked, and that this felt unintuitive, resulting in players being upset with their own structures for not helping them out.

  2. We wanted to create more interesting back and forth gameplay between Heroes in both Tower diving and town defense situations. Before this change, the defending team’s counter-play was to try to cast AoE abilities on enemy Minions so that they would die, effectively enabling their Towers to target the diving Heroes and protect them.

We want to also point out that while the first point may not seem like much, it is a fairly big deal, and was the initial primary motivator for changing Tower aggro. It’s important when playing games that they “feel” right, and when they don’t it can be a big deterrent to player enjoyment. It’s why we spend a lot of time and effort on high quality visual effects, sound effects, models, animations, and creating counter-play through proper design. It’s all related, and we believe that games become great works of art when things feel like they’re all working together in a cohesive and awesome way.

Where We Are

Let’s talk about how we feel about where things currently stand. We had recently made the decision to pull out all of the Tower aggro changes, and our recent playtests have had them removed in preparation for the next Anomaly. The team didn’t feel that it was a clear enough win due to some design concerns which we will discuss later, and due to how controversial the changes have been overall. We’re committed to only keeping Anomalies that we truly believe are better for the game as a whole, and since we were also incredibly torn on this issue, we had decided to remove it.

Then something interesting happened. Once we had removed the system, we started getting feedback from across the team that this was the wrong decision, and that the Tower aggro changes, although they had some issues, made the game, overall, feel much better. We ourselves also noticed that the games just felt better with the system on, which caused us to go back and ask ourselves: “are we making the right decision by taking this away?”

After lots of debate, we’re still torn on the how we want to proceed. We need to make a call soon, so we’re asking for some feedback from you to help us decide. In the next and final section of this post, we’re going to outline what we like about the current system, what we don’t like, and some proposed changes to improve the system if we decide to keep it.

What We Like

  1. We believe we succeeded in Towers feeling smarter as a defending player. They “feel” like they’re doing what they should be

  2. We believe we’ve created cool, high-tension moments when enemy Heroes dive under a Tower. We also like how attackers have some ability to manipulate who gets the Tower aggro to make intelligent, coordinated plays. We believe this can be even better with improvements in the future

  3. The combination on our end of being able to manipulate Tower damage and the stacking Armor debuff gives us a lot of room to manipulate exactly how we want these interactions to feel going forward, and gives us good tuning knobs to decide how much defensive power is from the Tower itself or from the nearby enemy Heroes who are there to defend it

Issues With The Current System

  1. We believe Towers are currently too punishing to consistently create the cool, high-tension moments we described above. They currently hit too hard to make those moments happen as often or as long as we’d like them to

  2. Many players don’t like how much they have to change their behavior when near enemy Towers, particularly the ones near the Gates, mainly due to splash damage inadvertently causing Towers to attack them

  3. A lot of the map is now more dangerous than before, making it less possible to fight enemy Heroes, particularly in the early game. This exacerbates issues we already have with our desire to make the laning phase of the game more interesting

  4. When too powerful (which we believe it currently is), it disincentivizes players from pushing with their map objectives, which can make those moments feel less awesome

  5. Some players just like the way things have been for years, and don’t want such a large change to a fundamental aspect of the game. While not a commanding reason to never make changes, it is something we always try to keep in mind, and why we think the bar needs to be high in order to keep these kinds of fundamental changes to game systems

Now that we’ve covered where we’re at, here are some potential ideas that we have been debating to help make things better if we decide to keep the changes. We could end up doing none of these or all of them, and we’re open to other ideas from you!

  1. Change all structures to prioritize Map Objectives before anything else

Pros

  • It would fix players not wanting to push with Map Objectives

Cons

  • It adds another rule that can be unintuitive for the defending players since they will not always be defended by their Towers, only most of the time, which can be confusing and goes against the primary goal of Towers “feeling” smart in how they work

  • Towers don’t defend their teammates in the moments of the game when they need them most

  1. Change Tower aggro so that the front Towers prioritize Minions, but the Forts, Keeps, and Kings Core prioritize Heroes who attack other Heroes

Pros

  • The early game would better reward aggression and pushing, and less of the map would be as dangerous as it currently is with the new system
  • Players could attack gates without feeling like their splash damage could get them into trouble

Cons

It adds complexity to the game with two different Aggro rules depending on the Structure

  1. Lower the damage that Structures do to Heroes

Pros

  • Towers won’t be as directly threatening themselves, which mitigates the issue of them being too punishing in the early game
  • Players will have more time to be aggressive with Tower diving and less immediately punished when Towers initially start to shoot them
  • It puts the onus of properly defending towns more on the defending team, which incentivizes interaction between heroes

Cons

It makes Towers weaker, which could result in Tower diving being too prevalent.

These are our thoughts on the current Anomaly. Thanks again for taking the time to read through our ideas. We’re now looking for feedback on how you feel about the current system, whether or not you would like to go back to the old system and why, or other ideas on how to improve the current one. We want to make a choice in the near future about what to do, so please be a Hero and give us your feedback – it will greatly help us in our tireless pursuit of constantly improving this game that we all love playing together.

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So honestly, I've really been liking the tower changes. The anomaly, I feel, like it's actually possible to work under towers and makes amazing plays possible since the old slow made the forts and keeps nearly guaranteed to peel for you. I will admit the towers in the front have made the game slower in some aspects and more dangerous to play risky early so honestly, revert towers but keep forts and keeps as they are now. Option 2 is best and the con of giving the game complexity is not even really downside. See denies and camp stacking in Dota 2 as examples of good complexity. And of course keep the core abilities, that *filtered* is awesome and makes the end of the game feel climatic.  

The issue with option 1 is that if the towers prioritize minions, then they'll basically be how they we're before and that's quite lame considering what the change has done to make towers much better. 

Finally, the Issue with option 3 is that towers might as well not exist if they don't do enough damage. Tower diving is a good thing to allow to happen but if the mid game becomes focus around it, that makes the appeal of it being a skillful and dangerous play null.

TL;DR - Option 2 has no downsides.

That's my two cents.

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I really like the new tower changes and how each core has their own gimmicks. If I were to make more tweaks to this system would be for the Core to be even more of a threat. Make it hit harder, a respectable final challenge. Maybe they could draw some power away from the towers and inject into the core, for balance reasons.

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      Artanis Base Shield Overload [Q] Fixed an issue that caused Shield Overload to not display correctly if empowered by Shield Surge. Brightwing Level 10 Blink Heal Fixed an issue that caused Blink Heal's trailing images to be visible while Brightwing has no remaining Blink Heal charges. Chen Base Fortifying Brew [Trait D] Fixed an issue that caused Fortifying Brew being instantly destroyed not granting Attack Speed. Fortifying Brew has been added to the Buff Bar. Dehaka Base Burrow [E] Fixed an issue that caused Burrow's visuals to be displaced if Dehaka is launched shortly after Burrow ends. Jaina Base Frostbite [Trait] Ice Block's before first use attention indicator is now also removed when Jaina is killed. Johanna Level 4 Eternal Retaliation Updated Eternal Retaliation's visual effect to only be visible to Johanna. Level 10 Blessed Shield Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Blessed Shield. Lt. Morales Level 10 Medivac Dropships Fixed an issue that caused Medivac Reinforcement's indicator beam to point to Lt. Morales' active position instead of where Reinforcements was cast. Mephisto Base Shade of Mephisto [E] Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Shade of Mephisto. Ragnaros Level 13 Cauterize Wounds Cauterize Wounds healing is now a singular combined effect each time it heals, instead of a heal effect for each Hero hit. Fixed an issue that caused Cauterize Wounds healing amount to be determined by the damage dealt to the target furthest from the primary Empower Sulfuras target. If Cauterize Wounds is reapplied while already active, any remaining healing will apply over the refreshed duration. Samuro Base Critical Strike [W] Fixed an issue that caused Samuro's Critical Strike stacks to be visible to an enemy Samuro. Sonya Level 10 Wrath of the Berserker Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Wrath of the Berserker. Stukov Base Healing Pathogen [Q] Fixed an issue that caused Healing Pathogen to persist for a brief period after activating Bio-Kill Switch. Sylvanas Base Black Arrows [Trait D] Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Black Arrows. Level 10 Mind Control Fixed an issue with the display duration for the duration bar of Mind Control. Level 20 Deafening Blast Fixed an issue that caused Deafening Blast to activate off of the center of units instead of their edge. The Lost Vikings Fixed an issue that prevented Olaf from charging while Silenced. Valeera Level 16 Assassinate Damage bonus is now additive. Fixed an issue with duration extension. Return to Top
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    • By Staff
      After extensive PTR testing, the latest Heroes of the Storm patch is now live and here are the official patch notes!
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      Our next Heroes of the Storm patch is live! Read on for more information.
      NOTE: Orange text indicates a change between PTR and Live notes.
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      General Storm League Balance Update Bug Fixes General
      Anduin has replaced Malfurion as the Ally hero in Try Me Mode. Numerous game strings have been updated to reflect current gameplay. Updated Homescreen and Startup Music. Return to Top
      Storm League
      Rank Decay will now only apply to players in Master and Grand Master Leagues. Reduced maximum party size for Master and Grand Master players to 2. Master and Grand Masters can only party with players 5,000 Rank Points away from them. Return to Top
      Balance Update
      Heroes
      Ana
      Base
      Biotic Grenade [W] ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: If Biotic Grenade does not hit any enemies, its cooldown is reduced by 3 seconds. ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: If Biotic Grenade only hits Ana, its cooldown is reduced by 2 seconds. Talents
      Level 1 Vampiric Rounds Shrike now gives a 15% passive healing bonus. Level 20 Deadeye ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Eye of Horus can now be toggled On and Off. ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Eye of Horus rounds are regained once every 10 seconds. ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Eye of Horus cooldown is now 6 seconds. Bonuses acquired from Deadeye now lasts 4 seconds. Auriel
      Base
      Bestow Hope [Trait D] Reduced amount of energy stored from 40% to 35% of damage to non-Heroes. Reduced amount of energy stored from 80% to 70% of damage to Heroes. Azmodan
      Talents
      Level 16 Trample ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Now reduces Heroic cooldown by 25% if Trample hits a Hero. E.T.C.
      Base
      Face Melt [W] Cooldown reduced from 12 to 10 seconds. Rockstar [Trait D] Armor from Basic Abilities increased from 20 to 25. Armor from Heroic Abilities reduced from 60 to 50. Talents
      Level 4 Crowd Surfer Cooldown reduction reduced from 7 to 6 seconds. Level 7 Hammer-on ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Basic Attacks deal 12% more damage, increased to 36% while Guitar Solo is active. Level 13 Encore Cooldown reduction reduced from 5% to 4%. Level 20 Power of the Horde NEW TALENT: Activate to grant nearby allied Heroes a Shield that absorbs damage equal to 30% of their maximum Health for 5 seconds, increased by 2% for each other allied Hero in the area. This new Talent replaces Storm Shield. Ride the Lightning NEW TALENT: Activate to teleport to a nearby location and deal 48 damage to nearby enemy Heroes. The cooldown is reduced by 10 seconds for every enemy Hero hit, up to 50 seconds. Genji
      Talents
      Level 1 Pathfinder ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Heroic Ability now heals Genji for 10% of the damage dealt to enemy Heroes, increased by up to 30% based on how low Genji's Health is. Level 10 X-Strike Cooldown increased from 60 seconds to 75 seconds. Detonation damage increased from 275 to 290. Slash damage increased from 135 to 145. Level 13 Shingan Now does 40% less damage to Structures. Level 20 Living Weapon Cooldown reduction increased from 10 seconds to 12.5 seconds. Imperius
      Base
      Molten Armor [E] Now hits two extra targets if no Heroes are in range. Talents
      Level 1 Impaling Light REWORK: Impaling Light cooldown is reduced by 2 seconds. REWORK: Impaling Light does 180% more damage to Heroes, reduced by 20% for each additional Hero hit. REWORK: Impaling Light mana cost is reduced from 40 to 30. REWORK: When a Valorous Branded target's Stun ends, Impaling Light's cooldown is reduced by 1 second for each Valorous Brand on the target. Level 7 Blaze of Glory Blaze of Glory delay reduced from 2 seconds to 1.75 seconds. Holy Fervor Molten Armor no longer grants Holy Fervor. Level 20 Heavenly Host ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: All Shields created by Angelic Armaments no longer expire. ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Swords fired by Heavenly Host Shields can target non-Heroes, but Heroes are prioritized. Molten Wrath NEW TALENT: Molten Armor will now hit two extra targets even if enemy Heroes are in range. Lunara
      Talents
      Level 7 Splintered Spear ADDED FUNCTIONALITY: Now grants 3 stacks of Splintered Spear. A stack is consumed when an extra target is attacked. Can have a maximum of 3 stacks and all stacks can be consumed in a single attack. Level 13 Endless Spores Now also refunds 50 Mana. Level 20 For The Wildlands! NEW TALENT: Thornwood Vine now shoots out 4 additional Vines in an arc. Forest's Wrath Can now be selected with either Heroic. Malthael
      Base
      Wraith Strike [W] Range is increased from 6 to 7. Talents
      Level 4 Black Harvest Quest goal reduced from 180 seconds to 150 seconds. Level 10 Tormented Souls No longer resets the cooldown of Wraith Strike when Tormented Souls ends. Now reduces the cooldown of Wraith Strike to 2 seconds and removes its Mana cost while Tormented Souls is active. Level 20 Reaper of Souls While 2 or more enemy Heroes are in Tormented Souls' radius, its duration does not decay. Zagara
      Talents
      Level 16 Corrosive Saliva Damage reduced from 1.75% to 1.5% of maximum Health. Return to Top
      Bug Fixes
      General
      Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Taunt effects. Map
      Battlefield of Eternity Fixed an issue where areas of the map were not covered under Fog of War. Blackheart's Bay Fixed an issue where some Heroes would not be able to path around Healing Fountains. Cursed Hollow Fixed an issue where Hogger could go through unpathable sections of the map. Warhead Junction Fixed an issue where healing fountains were not symmetrical on the map. Heroes
      Alarak Level 16 Lethal Onslaught Fixed an issue that caused Lethal Onslaught to not increase Alarak's Basic Attack damage correctly. Artanis Base Shield Overload [Q] Fixed an issue that caused Shield Overload to not display correctly if empowered by Shield Surge. Arthas Level 10 Summon Sindragosa Can now be cast over the Minimap. Azmodan Level 20 Sin's Grasp Tooltip Updated. Brightwing Base Arcane Flare [Q] Now has a minimum cast range of .05. Level 10 Blink Heal Fixed an issue that caused Blink Heal's trailing images to be visible while Brightwing has no remaining Blink Heal charges. Chen Base Fortifying Brew [Trait D] Fixed an issue that caused Fortifying Brew being instantly destroyed not granting Attack Speed. Fortifying Brew has been added to the Buff Bar. Dehaka Base Burrow [E] Fixed an issue that caused Burrow's visuals to be displaced if Dehaka is launched shortly after Burrow ends. Level 7 Paralyzing Enzymes Fixed an issue that caused Paralyzing Enzymes' duration to not be reduced if Drag ends early. Gazlowe Base Xplodium Charge [E] Now has a minimum cast range of .2. Level 10 Grav-O-Bomb 3000 Now has a minimum cast range of .2. Hanzo Base Sonic Arrow [E] Now has a minimum cast range of .2. Jaina Base Frostbite [Trait] Ice Block's before first use attention indicator is now also removed when Jaina is killed. Johanna Level 4 Eternal Retaliation Updated Eternal Retaliation's visual effect to only be visible to Johanna. Level 10 Blessed Shield Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Blessed Shield. Kel'Thuzad Level 13 Chains of Ice Chains of Ice no longer Slows if the Stun is removed. Li-Ming Level 10 Disintegrate Fixed an issue that allowed Disintegrate to be cast while moving. Lt. Morales Base Healing Beam [Q] Fixed an issue that allowed Healing Beam to be cast on multiple targets at once. Level 10 Medivac Dropships Fixed an issue that caused Medivac Reinforcement's indicator beam to point to Lt. Morales' active position instead of where Reinforcements was cast. Malfurion Level 1 Emerald Dreams Emerald Dreams no longer puts Heroes to Sleep if the Root gets removed. Medivh Level 20 Glyph Of Poly Bomb Fixed an issue that allowed Medivh to cast abilities during Raven Form. Mephisto Base Shade of Mephisto [E] Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Shade of Mephisto. Level 20 Unspeakable Horror Fixed an issue that caused Unspeakable Horror to Silence twice. Muradin Base Thunder Clap [W] Fixed an issue that caused Thunder Clap's splat to not match the area Thunder Clap hits. Level 4 Thunder Burn Fixed an issue that caused Thunder Burn's damaging area to be smaller than Thunder Clap's area. Fixed an issue that caused Thunder Burn's warning indicator to be inconsistently sized for the area affected. Murky Base Pufferfish [W] Now has a minimum cast range of .05. Orphea Base Shadow Waltz [Q] Fixed an issue that caused Orphea to not dash when moving after hitting an enemy Hero with Shadow Waltz. Ragnaros Level 13 Cauterize Wounds Cauterize Wounds healing is now a singular combined effect each time it heals, instead of a heal effect for each Hero hit. Fixed an issue that caused Cauterize Wounds healing amount to be determined by the damage dealt to the target furthest from the primary Empower Sulfuras target. If Cauterize Wounds is reapplied while already active, any remaining healing will apply over the refreshed duration. Rexxar Base Misha, Charge! [W] Can now be self-cast. Samuro Base Critical Strike [W] Fixed an issue that caused Samuro's Critical Strike stacks to be visible to an enemy Samuro. Sonya Level 10 Wrath of the Berserker Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Wrath of the Berserker. Remaining duration indicator is now standalone from Whirlwind's duration indicator. Stukov Base Healing Pathogen [Q] Fixed an issue that caused Healing Pathogen to persist for a brief period after activating Bio-Kill Switch. Sylvanas Base Black Arrows [Trait D] Fixed an issue with the display priority for the duration bar of Black Arrows. Remaining duration indicator is now standalone from Haunting Wave's duration indicator. Level 10 Mind Control Fixed an issue with the display duration for the duration bar of Mind Control. Level 20 Deafening Blast Fixed an issue that caused Deafening Blast to activate off of the center of units instead of their edge. The Lost Vikings Fixed an issue that prevented Olaf from charging while Silenced. Tracer Level 16 Ricochet Now appears as its own entry in the Death Recap. Tychus Base Frag Grenade [W] Fixed an issue that caused Frag Grenade to not apply physics to physics objects when no targets are hit. Valeera Level 16 Assassinate Damage bonus is now additive. Fixed an issue with duration extension. Whitemane Base Searing Lash [E] Can now be self-cast. Return to Top
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    • By Staff
      Game Pass members can now unlock 30 Heroes in Heroes of the Storm for free. Here’s how to claim your in-game perks.
      Game Pass Ultimate and PC Game Pass members are getting a fresh batch of in-game perks this week, and Heroes of the Storm is officially part of the lineup!
      Starting now, subscribers can unlock 30 playable Heroes in Blizzard's free-to-play MOBA just by linking their Battle.net account.
       
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