Mistweaver Monk Shadowlands

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This thread is for comments about our Mistweaver Monk Shadowlands Guide.

[Tequima 1]

On the Easy Mode guide it mentions prioritising Leech or any iLevel 10-15 more except rings then refers to this article "for more detail"... but there isn't any on this area.

Is this still true in SL?

[Dhaubbs 6]

On 10/17/2020 at 3:03 AM, Tequima said:

On the Easy Mode guide it mentions prioritising Leech or any iLevel 10-15 more except rings then refers to this article "for more detail"... but there isn't any on this area.

Is this still true in SL?

Good catch brother, leech was sort of left out of the stats guide (it was more referring to the end where we link to to sims and stat weights) - yes this is still true for SL, you'll want to prioritize ilvl over anything generally. However, you'll wanna use WoWA and QElive in order to get your true weights

*edit* Just wrote up an explanation of tertiaries, so once that gets approved it'll be pushed to the live site - thanks again

[Guest Bungo]

You've got the jade serpant statue lasts 30 seconds but this has been reduced to 8 I'm pretty sure?

[Dhaubbs 6]

On 11/7/2020 at 2:42 AM, Guest Bungo said:

You've got the jade serpant statue lasts 30 seconds but this has been reduced to 8 I'm pretty sure?

You're correct, its 8 seconds now. I thought I changed the duration on all my pages, but it looks like one slipped through lol. If you find any more don't hesitate to let me know

[Guest Marf]

For the anima powers in Torghast, can they please be sorted alphabetically within the tiers.

[Guest Nokster]

Unfiltered Bone Broth is listed as B tier, but the proc rate is way higher than the 3% claimed by the tooltip (usually it goes from about 50% to 25% or so), and will often be 60% damage on any fights you use it, including bosses. Is the 'B' rating based on the 3% rate given by the anima power tooltip, or actual proc rate? Because the power as implemented seems way stronger than a 'B' rating.

[Dhaubbs 6]

25 minutes ago, Guest Nokster said:

Unfiltered Bone Broth is listed as B tier, but the proc rate is way higher than the 3% claimed by the tooltip (usually it goes from about 50% to 25% or so), and will often be 60% damage on any fights you use it, including bosses. Is the 'B' rating based on the 3% rate given by the anima power tooltip, or actual proc rate? Because the power as implemented seems way stronger than a 'B' rating.

Hey! The B rating was because I had assumed the proc rate was bugged on beta, I too was seeing it proc way WAY more than 3% of the time. I just chalked it up to the myriad of bugs we had, and assumed when live hit, it would be fixed like all the other powers. So now it seems unclear if that's intentional or not. For the time being I'll bump that sucker up to S tier. Thanks for keeping an eye out, I didn't go  Necrolord so I haven't been able to see the other Cov powers.

[Guest Sombrero]

Hi. There is an error on the Gear and BiS page in the Dungeon BiS list. The listed boots are Mail not Leather. The correct item is Viscera-Stitched Footpads from Blightbone in The Necrotic Wake .

[Dhaubbs 6]

On 12/19/2020 at 1:38 PM, Guest Sombrero said:

Hi. There is an error on the Gear and BiS page in the Dungeon BiS list. The listed boots are Mail not Leather. The correct item is Viscera-Stitched Footpads from Blightbone in The Necrotic Wake .

Huh. Not sure how that even happened lol. Thanks for the heads up, the change will go through just as soon as the editors clear it

[Guest Asalya]

Either I am getting terrible disc priests consistently or this rating for them is far too high. Also, MW Monks seem to be VERY strong but are rated lower than a disc for mythic +. Not really agreeing with the guide at all.  Has anyone else experienced the same? Every time I bring a disc to mythic plus they cannot keep up the with hps output required. My MW (at the same gear level) can easily handle the healing without having any mana issues. Defensive wise MW have diffuse magic/dampen harm and fort brew. Their mobility alone makes them extremely unlikely to get hit by a mechanic and they have revival plus the new cd and life cocoon. Your ranking states that they only have life cocoon. Also, they bring mystic touch which increases physical damage dealt by the whole party and a large stun (leg sweep) to help with interrupts on stunnable mobs. They also have a 1 minute hard cc (paralysis) to use to cc the freeze tag, slimes, or even parts of trash if needed. Why do you only have them at a B ranking?

[Guest squess]

There's a little typo in the 3rd paragraph of section "2.2.2. Avoidance" in the description of the Tomb of Sargeras raid. Ty for the guide! 

[Guest Guest]

Hello,

Thanks for the guide.

I found a typo.

2.2.1. Leech - Missing a c from can. "But when you get your next upgrade it an be tricky to know if you ought to not equip something of a higher item level just because your old gear has Leech on it."

Feel free to delete this comment once resolved.

[Natalia 7]

21 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Hello,

Thanks for the guide.

I found a typo.

2.2.1. Leech - Missing a c from can. "But when you get your next upgrade it an be tricky to know if you ought to not equip something of a higher item level just because your old gear has Leech on it."

Feel free to delete this comment once resolved.

Thank you for flagging this. We will fix that.

[Guest Ilgor]

Hello! For https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/mistweaver-monk-pve-healing-gear-best-in-slot , the 3.2 part, raid gearing, only shows one trinket recommandation. What's trinket 2 ?

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[Dhaubbs 6]

On 3/31/2021 at 11:58 AM, Guest Ilgor said:

Hello! For https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/mistweaver-monk-pve-healing-gear-best-in-slot , the 3.2 part, raid gearing, only shows one trinket recommandation. What's trinket 2 ?

Feel free to delete this comment once resolved.

Hello! So the Cabalist's Hymnal is the only best in slot trinket out of Nathria with Manabound Mirror being second, only by virtue of it's item level.  Your goal should ideally be to get a Soulletting Ruby, or Unbound Changeling from your vault  for your second trinket.  A Sinful Gladiators Badge of Ferocity is also a good choice if you PvP.  For reference, a 233 Mirror is basically the same hps as a 226 Soulleting Ruby.

For a more precise answer, if you head over to our Simulations page there's a link to a tool developed by a player named Voulk called QELive. It'll let you input your character and check gear for upgrades, as well as having a deeper break down of how the trinkets will stack up at different ilvls specifically for your character.

[Wyr3d 0]

Heads up, but both Mistweaving, and Fistweaving have the same stat priorites now. Actually, they had the same last time too, but I forgot to mention it. These this probably be condensed down into "Normal" a "Mythic Dungeon" specs 

Oddly you've already done this for Easy Mode section  - although the stats for Mythic are different..

Edited July 1 by Wyr3d

[Dhaubbs 6]

On 7/1/2021 at 6:32 AM, Wyr3d said:

Heads up, but both Mistweaving, and Fistweaving have the same stat priorites now. Actually, they had the same last time too, but I forgot to mention it. These this probably be condensed down into "Normal" a "Mythic Dungeon" specs 

Oddly you've already done this for Easy Mode section  - although the stats for Mythic are different..

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're commenting on or wanted changed here, could you clarify?  I'll try to reply but if I've misinterpreted you, please let me know.

Mistweaving and Fistweaving  generally do have the same stat priorities when listed in order, but the proportions will change based on which you're doing. As for labeling, I prefer to not classify Fistweaving by what content it's doing, and rather by the playstyle; reason being is that Fistweaving isn't actually good for Mythic+ once the key level starts to reach a certain point, and giving people the idea that X playstyle is meant for y content can set expectations in a poor place.