positiv2 950 Report post Posted October 13, 2020 This thread is for comments about our Holy Paladin Shadowlands Guide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thumbtacks 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 Hi, you may want to add a caveat that if you're capping on Holy power and you don't forsee immediately needing to double cast WoG/LoD (which is the only justification for banking 5) then Shield of the Righteous is an alternative spender. It's also off the GCD which lets you weave it in as an oGCD if you're capping and don't need it. This also turns Holy Avenger into a DPS cooldown because you can just SotR immediately after holy shocks without wasting GCDs. idk i think it's at least worth a section, especially for newer players that aren't very familiar with Hpal and holy power Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mytholxgy 0 Report post Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Thumbtacks said: Hi, you may want to add a caveat that if you're capping on Holy power and you don't forsee immediately needing to double cast WoG/LoD (which is the only justification for banking 5) then Shield of the Righteous is an alternative spender. It's also off the GCD which lets you weave it in as an oGCD if you're capping and don't need it. This also turns Holy Avenger into a DPS cooldown because you can just SotR immediately after holy shocks without wasting GCDs. idk i think it's at least worth a section, especially for newer players that aren't very familiar with Hpal and holy power Definitely something I will add in the next updates to the guide. When I originally made the updates for the Shadowlands changes, I wasn't sure how I wanted to cover SotR. In raiding you will only use it when there is nothing else to do and you are at risk of capping Holy Power like you mentioned, Mythic+ will see a lot more use for sure. Will try to add some information about it in the guide whether it be a paragraph or just fitting it into the rotation when there is no healing to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Husky Report post Posted December 5, 2020 Hi there, First up thanks for all of the work you do on the Holy Paladin page. I've just gone back to playing my paladin since Uldir and I am enjoying it very much. I have noticed that the soulbind conduit trees do not have a conduit in them, however the Prot and Ret pages do. Could you please put in the recommended conduits? Thanks again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mytholxgy 0 Report post Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 11:29 PM, Guest Husky said: Hi there, First up thanks for all of the work you do on the Holy Paladin page. I've just gone back to playing my paladin since Uldir and I am enjoying it very much. I have noticed that the soulbind conduit trees do not have a conduit in them, however the Prot and Ret pages do. Could you please put in the recommended conduits? Thanks again! Hey! So when I made the soulbind trees I chose to leave out the conduits from the trees because for the most part, your choice of conduits will depend on what you have available and what item level they are. On the covenants/soulbinds page I broke it down a bit more in-depth but there are a lot of variables. The best way to compare which conduit is best based on what you have available is to use the site: https://questionablyepic.com/live/. Which will allow you to compare the gear you have available to determine what is best. I will definitely revaluate how I went about it though and see if I can put some conduits in the trees. Thanks for the feedback! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wyr3d 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2020 So this one is seems pretty open depending on Talent choices, but for the purposes of my add-on, I've gone with the following as a standard set based on the information available: Spread Group: (Leech) > Int > Crit > Haste > Mast > Vers Close Group: (Leech) > Int > Mast > Crit > Haste > Vers Glimmer: Int > Haste > Mast > Vers > Crit Dungeon: (Leech) > Int > Crit > Haste > Vers > Mast" Spread and Close are for standard healing depending on the situation, referring to the note regarding Mastery. Glimmer is now a talent choice build that focuses on buffing damage rather than just healing. Dungeon is mythics of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eniee Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Hi. Thanks for the guide. Please check the infusion of light segment, it is inaccurate. Flash of light cost is reduced, not the cast time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HysteREKTomy 0 Report post Posted July 7, 2021 Great guide but I must say that using Regenerating Materials rather than the recommended Resilient Plumage in the Mikanikos tree saves a lot of money in repair cost, especially when you're working on raid progression. It doesn't change the rest of the tree to select it. Plumage seems a bit arbitrary and extremely situational to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aelun 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) Hey there, I was wondering which legendary 2 use as a necro holy paly. since the covenant leggy is already bis. Thanks Greetings Edited April 7, 2022 by Aelun dont need to release found the thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maatouk 1 Report post Posted October 27, 2022 Talent Import Text doesent work anymore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kamie Report post Posted March 25, 2023 In the 10.0.7 m+ build not to include dispel disease and poison is a HARD BIG FAIL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Murf Report post Posted May 12, 2023 Hey, you have a dagger listed as BiS weapon for a Paladin to aim for... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Glaive Report post Posted June 16, 2023 Just wanting to let you guys know the M+ holy pally talents for 10.1 Dragonflight are broken and certain talents are skipped entirely making it impossible to use the build as it is currently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mytholxgy 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 1:26 AM, Guest Glaive said: Just wanting to let you guys know the M+ holy pally talents for 10.1 Dragonflight are broken and certain talents are skipped entirely making it impossible to use the build as it is currently. Thank you for reporting this! I think I have found the issue and it should be updated shortly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Losty 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2023 So uh, lack of a boot enchant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bartons 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 4:46 PM, Mytholxgy said: Thank you for reporting this! I think I have found the issue and it should be updated shortly! Here is an updated string that moves talent points around for increased mobility and survivability:-2 Talent Points in Turn Evil +1 Talent Point in Obduracy +1 Talent Point in Sanctified Plates BEEAS+uMNo6HaxL/ztTZBhrdcCABAABAQAAACQJJQUSLJ0EpIRSJwBaJCSQSRCJJEpxBIJCAIAAgQA Icy Veins Talent Calculator Link:https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/dragonflight-talent-calculator#2--65$aacfgklopq0sstvwxyAABBC1DFGHIJJPQ+a0bcdik0lm1nops1uwx0zAACDDE0FFKL1MMNP* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SASSY Report post Posted July 4, 2023 Very Informative guide. Do you think the pally play style will change when glimmer gets buff or when they do a bit of the rework? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest benjamin/ lëmillion Report post Posted December 12, 2023 what about balefire trinket ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glyneth 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) The Mythic+ talent build at the top notes having big cooldowns like Tyr's Deliverance, but it's not in the spec for M+. Edited December 20, 2023 by glyneth wrong talent name Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fergus 0 Report post Posted January 2 Hi. Back on my Holydin after a long break (I was alienated by the mastery change around about 5.0 I think it was) and rarely play paladin these days. Is there a priority list for Holydin defensive stats ? I took a shield out of the vault today with 11K block and my first thought was oooooh, that'll help when I am standing in bad, next to the tank and in top 5 dmg taken. But then I thought.......what does block, actually block ? 1. 1 on 1 physical 2. Cleave physical 3. All AOE. I chose the shield as I do all my solo PvE in Prot and only heal at an LFR/Heroic level. So not a terrible mistake either way. But clearly I am hoping for but not expecting it to be option #3. I did get the shield while in Holy spec. Perhaps Blizz is testing how much (or little) I know about the spec 🙂 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dubears Report post Posted January 19 Hello, just wanted to let you know that there is not anything listed in the enchants list about the legs. Obviously i know its temporal spellthread but its not listed and noobies may not know to look for one if its not on the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Legendpaly Report post Posted May 7 quick question, im playing ret on cata classic, i could before yesterday use holeshock while being a ret paly, was it intended or is it normal i just cant use now and its only linked to holy buiild? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest grumpybear Report post Posted August 17 Tower of Radiance is now higher up in the Holy tree with Divine Revelations in it's place lower down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Report post Posted August 23 Under the Holy Paladin Healing Rotation page, there is still reference to Glimmer of Light under "Cooldown Usage." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guesty Report post Posted August 27 Under the leveling talents it has some talent points given 2 when they only have 1 slot and are extremely out or order. You can see it jumps to the end of the tree around mid level when not getting any of the pre-reqs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites