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Patch 9.1 Pre-Raid DPS Simulation by SimulationCraft

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SimulationCraft has a preliminary pre-raid Sanctum of Domination DPS simulation up on their site that we're looking at in this post.

DISCLAIMER: The simulations are a work in progress. They've been conducted using a Patchwerk (nuke boss-style) template and an Item Level 252 character with a Legendary and 3 Conduits. Demon Hunters, Paladins, and Warlocks have not been implemented yet either. SimulationCraft is open source, and you can contribute to making it better!

Pre-Raid Sanctum of Domination 9.1 DPS Simulation

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Source: SimulationCraft

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5 minutes ago, Teufel said:

All 3 specs of a pure dps class being on the lower end of the bracket is always "good".

to be fair, dont know when dps was this close, except for tank DK and sub rouge its a range of 2,2k dps difference and if you only take the "best" specc of each class its even closer

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46 minutes ago, Teufel said:

All 3 specs of a pure dps class being on the lower end of the bracket is always "good".

Ermm... ok... Rogue is first, and Mage is second... what are you talking about? Hunter?
2 out of the top 3 being exactly what you're saying is the "lower end of the bracket" is weird.

Even if you go by the top damage for this graph, Rogue is still first, and Mage only goes down to second.

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18 minutes ago, Layniar said:

Ermm... ok... Rogue is first, and Mage is second... what are you talking about? Hunter?
2 out of the top 3 being exactly what you're saying is the "lower end of the bracket" is weird.

Even if you go by the top damage for this graph, Rogue is still first, and Mage only goes down to second.

I'm not quite sure what logical twists made you bring up Rogues and Mages to reply to a post that quite literally is not about them.

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19 minutes ago, Layniar said:

Ermm... ok... Rogue is first, and Mage is second... what are you talking about? Hunter?
2 out of the top 3 being exactly what you're saying is the "lower end of the bracket" is weird.

Even if you go by the top damage for this graph, Rogue is still first, and Mage only goes down to second.

Hunter.  They're clearly talking about hunter.  Haha.  "All 3 specs of a pure dps class" is the quote and there's an 'a' there, singular, they're talking about all 3 specs of one class.  Hunter clearly needs buffs, at least to one spec.

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31 minutes ago, Ain said:

Upset feral isn't even listed....

Simcraft be like "Yeah, that's not even a dps spec anyways

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6 hours ago, Teufel said:

I'm not quite sure what logical twists made you bring up Rogues and Mages to reply to a post that quite literally is not about them.

Sorry about that, I misread and thought you were complaining that all pure dps specs were low. I feel it is obvious I misunderstood when I said "Hunter?" though.

Hunters could probably do with a slight buff, they are getting a fair bit of utility with the new legendary bow drop though that nobody else can use. They also seemed to be good in Nathria anyway despite all this because of existing utility so people are probably still going to be using them.

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1 hour ago, Layniar said:

Sorry about that, I misread and thought you were complaining that all pure dps specs were low. I feel it is obvious I misunderstood when I said "Hunter?" though.

Hunters could probably do with a slight buff, they are getting a fair bit of utility with the new legendary bow drop though that nobody else can use. They also seemed to be good in Nathria anyway despite all this because of existing utility so people are probably still going to be using them.

Thing is, the simluations above is single-target profile, which looks like a dominant one for the Sanctum (pun not intended), and you'd think at least one would be fine.

Not playing a hunter myself (or raiding much,to begin with), but this is unhealthy.

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23 hours ago, ResoWho said:

to be fair, dont know when dps was this close, except for tank DK and sub rouge its a range of 2,2k dps difference and if you only take the "best" specc of each class its even closer

2.2k is huge though. 
That is 20% !

Maybe you are looking at the absolute values, forgot about the stat squish and think it is small; but it’s not.
Back in legion and BfA we had gaps ranging from 5% to 10%.
20% is not small and should easily be fixed. 

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5 hours ago, Nyth said:

2.2k is huge though. 
That is 20% !

Maybe you are looking at the absolute values, forgot about the stat squish and think it is small; but it’s not.
Back in legion and BfA we had gaps ranging from 5% to 10%.
20% is not small and should easily be fixed. 

according to wowhead statistics emerald nightmare was 32% gap, trial of valor 25% , antorus 20% , nyalotha 30%, crucible 46%, according to wowmeta castle nathria 32%. there some lower once i havent mentioned but i havent found a single one with a 5% gap

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Everyone is losing their mind about something they clearly don't understand - These dmg value may be 20% apart but some classes fall off hard with movement. Lets take a Heavy movement fight, BM Hunter will excel over that of lets say Arcane Mage (To a certain degree) So lets not take "rooted" DPS and pretend it holds any real value in a raiding enviroment.

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