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The Notorious Draenor Mythic+ Leaver Troll Returns

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Yes, he's back - or perhaps never really left in the first place. The player from the Draenor EU server who instantly leaves Mythic+ groups after a run starts, as "retribution" for getting kicked in previous tuns is at it again!

In case you're not familiar with the story, a Warrior from Draenor EU was purposefully abandoning groups right after a Mythic+ key started and leaving a message explaining that he was doing it because he himself had gotten kicked in previous runs, and would continue to mess up groups until a certain number was reached. Here's one of  the original messages from back in March, when we first noticed this "gem" of a player:

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Reported by: HomieeJo.

The player seemed to do this for quite a while, a month or more even, as we also received reports of him still going in April. However, we hadn't heard from him in quite a while - until last week when he popped back up in DowntownAd1940's group, with a much less descriptive and much more relaxed and even apologetic message:

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Apologies aside, he still left the group very quickly, as DowntownAd1940 aka Леснаятыква-гордунни from the above screenshot explained when we asked about what happened:

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The story is simple, he joined and by the time the loading screen disappeared he was gone (which was surprising cause I'm loading goddamn fast xD).

At this point the big question is whether he has really been doing this since March actively, messing up players' keys on purpose whenever he got kicked in regular runs himself (and it seems he's not that good at the game either, with so many "causeless" kicks affecting him), or if he took a break and is now back at it. We'll definitely be keeping an eye out and hopefully the many, MANY reports he's receiving will result in some more permanent form of punishment from Blizzard.

If you're just dying to find out the Warrior's name (if nothing else to relieve some of the pressure from the other poor Draenor EU Warriors who might be suffering the consequences), you can dig around for and find it over in the most recent reddit thread , but he may have already changed it since then.

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People like him are the reason why Blizz needs to add a penalty for leaving a certain amount of keys in a period of time. Because this is literally griefing.

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Considering there would be chat logs for this, it seems like something that should be easily actionable.

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The wow community is slowly killing itself at this point.
Blizzard doesn't need to make fuckup's anymore.

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Why isn't his account and email permabanned?  Or is he getting around it?

Look, I'm not a "performance" person, but I think it's important for people to understand their limits.  I don't care how good or bad people actually play, but don't waste OTHER PEOPLE'S  time.  It's not cool and doing so intentionally should be a perma-ban offense. 

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8 hours ago, Prophet001 said:

Who gets kicked from M+ runs?

lol

Like the group will literally kill itself trying to complete then leave if it's not possible.

my guess is he got replaced before the key started

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tbh I feel for him, removing a player frpm mythic+ after key started should be allowed, if a player dosnt like the group he can leave.

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17 hours ago, Dranight said:

People like him are the reason why Blizz needs to add a penalty for leaving a certain amount of keys in a period of time. Because this is literally griefing.

that would be a problem for higher keys i guess. there should be a vote like thing to surrender with a CD after every vote, if at least 3 people vote yes its over and no penalty or something like that would be better in my opinion

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This "treat people poorly and as a reward we'll feature you on icyveins!" thing icyveins does has always made zero sense to me.  

If you'e going to continue to hide his name so your readers can't actually protect themselves against him, what is the point of continuing to give him articles on this site?


 

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23 hours ago, Brew1010 said:

let me know ur character and realm so i can avoid trash player 

Hopefully you'll see me posted on r/wow soon.

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21 hours ago, Shackelbolt said:

This "treat people poorly and as a reward we'll feature you on icyveins!" thing icyveins does has always made zero sense to me.  

If you'e going to continue to hide his name so your readers can't actually protect themselves against him, what is the point of continuing to give him articles on this site?


 

Not reading the article to the end and very easily finding out his name (and it was always going to be in the comments anyway) always makes zero sense to me.

The point is to call out the behavior of this person and the way the system allows him to do this. The end-goal is that maybe Blizzard can see this type of behavior as damaging and possibly enact some system changes because of it (or ban the person in question permanently, as THEY absolutely know their name). Personally I would call out the guy in an instant, but this isn't my personal blog, and in general it's not a good idea for a site like Icy Veins to start calling people out and witch-hunting them (I'm talking about THIS article exclusively, in all previous articles like this, the image was NOT censored by us, but by the reddit users submitting them). I did leave a very easy opportunity to find the name out at the end of the article, but if that was too much effort for you then I don't really know what to tell you.

Also, as a side-note, I'm not sure what exactly you think is "rewarding" about being called an absolute piece of garbage and then increasing the odds of not getting invited to groups in the future (because again, in each and every one of these posts, you could find out his name in about 1-2 minutes if you cared about it at all).

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18 hours ago, GojiMan said:

Hopefully you'll see me posted on r/wow soon.

If you mean by doing what this awful person is doing, then we might, just so Blizzard can more easily ban you.

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On 9/6/2021 at 10:23 PM, DarthK said:

Don’t hide his name, people will stop inviting him to keys, solved?

Except name change exists and other players might pick that old name and then get blacklisted for no reason. Again, personally I'd do it, since the odds of the above are slim, but I'm not going to use Icy Veins as a platform to call people out that I think are terrible.

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5 hours ago, Starym said:

Why are you going out of your way to insist the name is in the article when you acknowledged it's not? The name obviously exists on reddit. And yet the article was written and posted here- not reddit. 

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and in general it's not a good idea for a site like Icy Veins to start calling people out and witch-hunting them

You 5 seconds ago: "what are you talking about, the name was given" 
You 5 seconds later: "what are you talking about, the name should not be given"

5 hours ago, Starym said:

Also, as a side-note, I'm not sure what exactly you think is "rewarding" about

I don't believe that you truly don't understand how dedicating multiple articles to one player's repeated behavior on a site like icyveins is not rewarding bad behavior. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I'm happy letting our comments speak for themselves and letting people make up their own minds. 

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sheer bewilderment of that reply

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19 hours ago, Shackelbolt said:

I don't believe that you truly don't understand how dedicating multiple articles to one player's repeated behavior on a site like icyveins is not rewarding bad behavior. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I'm happy letting our comments speak for themselves and letting people make up their own minds. 

Let me explain the bewilderment: the name should not be given directly in an article like this. A way to find out the name I'd say is borderline, but I felt strongly enough to lean on the "it's ok to give a tool/way to find the name out" and so I added that instead. I have to say I'm not 100% sure that was the right thing to do here mind you, but I hate behavior like this enough to lean on the "it's ok to do it this way" side. That way people that actually might need the name because it might affect their playing (aka those that could potentially be grouped with the person) can find out with a slight amount of effort while those that just want to scream someone's "evil name" into the void won't bother.

I still genuinely don't understand how this could be considered rewarding anything though, is public shaming considered a reward these days? In my view these articles are along the line of "how is this guy not permabanned yet???" and might lead to that if Blizzard notice. Genuinely don't see your logic, but as you say I guess it's an individual thing.

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