wow Possible Implications of Region-Wide Auction House Commodities in Patch 9.2.7

[Stan 5,019]

Folks over at r/woweconomy started discussing possible implications of region-wide Auction House commodities coming in Patch 9.2.7 and we have the highlights.

Blizzard surprised us with a Patch 9.2.7 update which brings region-wide Auction House commodities and a new chat channel for trade. Note that the region-wide commodity change only applies to materials. Armor and weapons will continue to be realm-specific.

(Source)

AUCTION HOUSE UPDATE: REGION-WIDE COMMODITIES

• Auction Houses across all realms on a given region will now share commodity listings (gems, herbs, flasks, consumables, etc.). Items that aren’t commodities –- like armor and weapons –- will continue to be realm-specific.

The gold making community at r/woweconomy started theorizing about the impact of region-wide commodities. Here's an overview of the main points:

• The price of materials should drastically go down on low population / dead realms with the introduction of region-wide commodities.
• Low pop realms should also see items that wouldn't be otherwise available on the Auction House on their realm.
• The Auction House is somewhat laggy on high-population realms and gold makers wonder if Blizzard's back-end structure will be able to handle region-wide commodities during peak hours.
• Gold makers worry that they'll have to compete with bots from other servers.
• The increased competition will drive prices down for almost everything.
• Instead of competing with your server, you'll compete with the whole region.
• Gold makers won't be able to reset the market, which often happens if an individual controls specific goods to drive out competition.
• People will make less gold selling herbs, flasks, enchants, gems, and so forth.
• Homogenizing markets takes the fun out of figuring out server niches.
• The cost of commodities and consumables will normalize across the region.
• Vendor shuffles will likely become more popular.

Source: WoW Economy

[darkgreenwax 409]

13 minutes ago, Stan said:

Gold makers won't be able to reset the market, which often happens if an individual controls specific goods to drive out competition.

That's probably the most interesting point, which is good news for casuals and bad news for someone whose life work is controlling the flow of saronite ore and purple lotus.

[Jdawgprime 1]

Someone pointed out to me that this may inflate the already out of control bot situation we have in this game. Give them more access to the whole market as it were instead of individual servers, I remain hopefully but Blizzard doesn't necessarily do a good job of preventing them from running amok as it is.

[Krimzin 60]

Most people who do nothing but Farm for Gold are RMT traders. This is fanfuckingtastic for normal players.. Job Well Done Blizzard.

[Ltdrifter 0]

This will be the best thing to ever happen to botters and RMTraders, the worst for casuals and hobby traders. Be prepared for prices to increase exponentially across the board. 

 

This will go down as the dumbest idea since LFG, maybe even worse than flight.

 

[ResoWho 68]

7 hours ago, TyZone said:

That's probably the most interesting point, which is good news for casuals and bad news for someone whose life work is controlling the flow of saronite ore and purple lotus.

well, that probably leads to competition between bots or hardcore 24/7 dudes with (mechanical) multi boxxing. prices will drop down since no one will be able to reset prices and while amor and weapons arent included, craftable stuff that requires material that you can buy cheap now since the AH will be flooded with it, will drop next in price. so in the long run, casuals wont be able to generate as much gold as they do now, even people who use AH semi proffession wont keep up and people have to buy more wow tokens in general. smart move by blizzard. but thats just my personal opinion.

they need to change the AH system in general, espcially with the new system. some of my ideas would be;

-merge all accounts someone owns into one so that you got no multi accounts.

-make having more then 1 account a bannable reason, you are only allowed to be online with 1 char at the same time.

-put a small CD on creating auctions, for example each material got its own X minutes CD, while one is on CD you can still list others. (atm on big realms you are the lowest seller for about 20-30 seconds on prime times even less, this will get worse with merging)

following part would probably need more employees so its unlikly that its gonna happen but

-keep an eye on ~top 50 people with most sold auctions.

-keep an eye on farm spots 

 

Edited July 7, 2022 by ResoWho

[Dreamcatcher 65]

4 hours ago, ResoWho said:

well, that probably leads to competition between bots or hardcore 24/7 dudes with (mechanical) multi boxxing. prices will drop down since no one will be able to reset prices and while amor and weapons arent included, craftable stuff that requires material that you can buy cheap now since the AH will be flooded with it, will drop next in price. so in the long run, casuals wont be able to generate as much gold as they do now, even people who use AH semi proffession wont keep up and people have to buy more wow tokens in general. smart move by blizzard. but thats just my personal opinion.

they need to change the AH system in general, espcially with the new system. some of my ideas would be;

-merge all accounts someone owns into one so that you got no multi accounts.

-make having more then 1 account a bannable reason, you are only allowed to be online with 1 char at the same time.

-put a small CD on creating auctions, for example each material got its own X minutes CD, while one is on CD you can still list others. (atm on big realms you are the lowest seller for about 20-30 seconds on prime times even less, this will get worse with merging)

following part would probably need more employees so its unlikly that its gonna happen but

-keep an eye on ~top 50 people with most sold auctions.

-keep an eye on farm spots 

 

lol 

[ResoWho 68]

1 hour ago, Dreamcatcher said:

lol 

whats so laughable about my personal opinion and why felt the urge to write lol instead of using the reaction button? we can argue about everything if you write more then 3 letters.i look forward to your opinion on this topic and your solution attempts. my opinion is not set in stone.

Edited July 7, 2022 by ResoWho

[darkgreenwax 409]

20 hours ago, ResoWho said:

well, that probably leads to competition between bots or hardcore 24/7 dudes with (mechanical) multi boxxing. prices will drop down since no one will be able to reset prices and while amor and weapons arent included, craftable stuff that requires material that you can buy cheap now since the AH will be flooded with it, will drop next in price. so in the long run, casuals wont be able to generate as much gold as they do now, even people who use AH semi proffession wont keep up and people have to buy more wow tokens in general. smart move by blizzard. but thats just my personal opinion.

they need to change the AH system in general, espcially with the new system. some of my ideas would be;

-merge all accounts someone owns into one so that you got no multi accounts.

-make having more then 1 account a bannable reason, you are only allowed to be online with 1 char at the same time.

-put a small CD on creating auctions, for example each material got its own X minutes CD, while one is on CD you can still list others. (atm on big realms you are the lowest seller for about 20-30 seconds on prime times even less, this will get worse with merging)

following part would probably need more employees so its unlikly that its gonna happen but

-keep an eye on ~top 50 people with most sold auctions.

-keep an eye on farm spots 

 

I'll touch on a few of your points.

Firstly, I don't think merging accounts into one will accomplish much other than create confusion. Wouldn't it become harder to keep track of your items and characters if they're all lumped together?

I also disagree with banning a 2nd account - if someone pays for a second account, they should be able to use it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Blizz likes people paying for accounts.

I don't think placing cooldowns on auction actions is a good idea either: I feel at best it unnecessarily throttles supply, and at worst it encourages players to seek automation tools to handle the cooldown.

I'm not sure what watching the top sellers accomplishes, nor watching farm spots. What is the goal here?

[ResoWho 68]

53 minutes ago, TyZone said:

I'll touch on a few of your points.

Firstly, I don't think merging accounts into one will accomplish much other than create confusion. Wouldn't it become harder to keep track of your items and characters if they're all lumped together?

I also disagree with banning a 2nd account - if someone pays for a second account, they should be able to use it, I don't see anything wrong with that. Blizz likes people paying for accounts.

I don't think placing cooldowns on auction actions is a good idea either: I feel at best it unnecessarily throttles supply, and at worst it encourages players to seek automation tools to handle the cooldown.

I'm not sure what watching the top sellers accomplishes, nor watching farm spots. What is the goal here?

thx for your reply,

my idea was, that if people are online with 1 charakter only, they cant multibox or run bots that easily. if they use a 2nd pc that could be a problem thought. but you are right, due to money reasons that wouldnt be done.

that it throttles was intended because like it is atm you have to relist your auctions on big realms every few seconds or you arent the lowest seller anymore. when the changes will hit, materials like ores or herbs will flood the AH and you dont just have to compete with people from one realm, but with all the people in the region. therefor something like a short cd (30-60 sec?) would at least slow it down a little and since you cant just log into a 2nd account you cant bypass that. that was my idea

my intention behind the last points was to observe people and find bot patterns easier, like it was and might still be but we get less and less employees working at things like that due to money reasons.

Edited July 7, 2022 by ResoWho

[MarcusMaximi 0]

On 7/7/2022 at 1:09 AM, ResoWho said:

well, that probably leads to competition between bots or hardcore 24/7 dudes with (mechanical) multi boxxing. prices will drop down since no one will be able to reset prices and while amor and weapons arent included, craftable stuff that requires material that you can buy cheap now since the AH will be flooded with it, will drop next in price. so in the long run, casuals wont be able to generate as much gold as they do now, even people who use AH semi proffession wont keep up and people have to buy more wow tokens in general. smart move by blizzard. but thats just my personal opinion.

they need to change the AH system in general, espcially with the new system. some of my ideas would be;

-merge all accounts someone owns into one so that you got no multi accounts.

-make having more then 1 account a bannable reason, you are only allowed to be online with 1 char at the same time.

-put a small CD on creating auctions, for example each material got its own X minutes CD, while one is on CD you can still list others. (atm on big realms you are the lowest seller for about 20-30 seconds on prime times even less, this will get worse with merging)

following part would probably need more employees so its unlikly that its gonna happen but

-keep an eye on ~top 50 people with most sold auctions.

-keep an eye on farm spots 

 

So what about me and my son who play together. 2 wow accounts on same bnet account. We'd get banned under your stupid idea

 

[Shackelbolt 5]

On 7/6/2022 at 7:09 PM, ResoWho said:

casuals wont be able to generate as much gold as they do now, 

 

What an extremely odd way to say, "stuff will be more affordable".

[ResoWho 68]

20 hours ago, Shackelbolt said:

What an extremely odd way to say, "stuff will be more affordable".

what an odd way to interpret that sentence. its arguable if "stuff will be more affordable". if you bought a wow token to have gold all the time, then maybe stuff will be more affordable in the beginning but you also will get less gold for a token in the long run because people will generate less gold. if you use in game methods to make gold and might also buy your game time with it, you cant afford as much stuff as before because you are (partly) cut off of your in game income.

Edited July 10, 2022 by ResoWho

[ResoWho 68]

On 7/8/2022 at 6:44 PM, MarcusMaximi said:

So what about me and my son who play together. 2 wow accounts on same bnet account. We'd get banned under your stupid idea

 

right now account sharing (no matter if its a wow account or a bnet account) isnt allowed except your son is a minor. so no problem in adapting that if your son is a minor. in a blue post they said "The only person who should have the account details is YOU. No one else. No cats, siblings, brother, sisters. Maybe parents, so they can use the parental control" so im not even sure if playing together is included. that sharing overall isnt allowed is written in the ToS. 

Edited July 11, 2022 by ResoWho