Karrotkake

BrM Heroic SoO Help

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Hello all! My name is Brewmaster Karrotkake, and I need your help! 

My character can be found here

 

 

So my guild has been progressing slowly through Heroic SoO for the past 2-3 months, with me tanking alongside a blood DK. Over the course of this time I have tried many different builds, for the most part Mastery/Stamina.

 

I have recently made the decision to switch to Crit/Haste, based on the recommendation of some guides, websites etc, as well as some other monks on the server. One problem I am having however, is the amount of haste I should be using in order to get the most out of my character. I have seen the term "stack haste until comfortable" used a great deal, but where would be a good starting point? looking through different websites and guides I've seen haste from as low as 4500, to as high as 10-11k!.

 

So I ask you, good people of icy-veins, how do YOU build your Brewmaster monks? As for AskMrRobot, what stat weights do you personally use in order to push as much out of your character as possible? 

 

Any suggestions or tips would be greatly appreciated, and I thank you in advance for any help you may provide.

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Hi There  ,

 

I use the Mr Robot crit build(link to my main monk in signature) and then i set the stamina weights to low. Stamina is completely useless for a BrM and gives us no benefit whatsoever.

 

As for the haste its is a comfort/practice thing. I know i can maintain a rotation and shuffle with 4500 haste. But i also know that im going to be tanking H Garrosh so i will probably need to be purifying more so will benefit from a little more haste.

 

IMO anything more than probably 6500 haste is too much for a BrM.

 

As for tips, if you could ling some warcraftlogs of you in action we can have a look and give some feedback.

 

Happy Killing :)

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Hey Brewmonksta, thanks for the advice concerning haste, I've set the stamina weights low as you suggested, and have decided to go for roughly 5500, as it would allow for the extra purifying on certain fights. I've been meaning to set up WarcraftLogs for a while now, and I believe this gives me some reason for doing so. I shall set it up and start recording logs for this weeks raids, to see what areas I can improve in.

 

On another note, looking at your linked character, I can see that you are dual-wielding rather than using a 2h. Is this something I should also be looking into? I have access to any 1h agility weapon that drops at the moment, as my old main was the only rogue in the guild. 

 

Thanks again in advance!

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The 1 Handers provide "more" dps due to the extra dancing steel enchant, more melee swings giving the potential to proc rppm trinkets more/faster.

 

Its not a Huge differerence but given equal ilvl and stat budgets for 1H vs 2H you would go for the 1 Handers. ie i wouldnt go down in ilvl just to get an extra enchant.

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Oh, so I should hold on to my staff untill I get 2 one handers of a higher ilevel?

No - ill attempt to clarify.

 

Same ilvl and same/similar stats go for 1Handers.

 

DO NOT go down in ilvl just to use 1Handers.

 

Always take into account the stats that are o n the weapons and go for the weapons that give you the best overall increase to your stats/attackpower etc.

 

Example

The Immerseus staff has expertise and crit. Both stats are great for a BrM.

 

The Protectors fist weapons are hit Crit. Hit is good depending on the other gear you have to help reach caps. Crit is  desirable as BrM.

 

However the Iron Jugg Maces, paragons axes have more desirble BrM stats so in that situation i would go for 2 normal 1H of these instead of the normal staff from immerseus.

 

Given the choice between these I would therefore not switch from a normal immerseus staff to the fist weapons unless the fist weapons were of heroic/heroic wf quality.

 

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The protectors fist weapons are hit crit, which is very desirable as long as you don't have too much hit elsewhere.

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Good afternoon!

 

As already mentioned, I've personally found that if you favour going Crit, then 2x1h's works out a lot better in terms of stacking your elusive brew procs efficiently.

 

I personally switched to 2h when we hit heroics as I switched to a balance between mastery & crit. Haste I've never really ever forged for as you only really need as much so that your stagger will not fall off.

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