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Hey guys, any more plans to finish the beginner guides for other classes?

or more diablo 3 content on this site in general. I think these guides are very helpful and would like to see more.

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This Barbarian build seems out of date... It mentions things I don't have and I have more slots than they show here

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This Barbarian build seems out of date... It mentions things I don't have and I have more slots than they show here

The only thing that's out of date that I know of is the Swords to Ploughshares rune from Battle Rage has changed.  Instead of dropping health globes, it heals you directly.

 

If your character is not yet level 70, then you won't have everything listed.  You add in the skills and runes it recommends as you level up .  Some of them aren't available until at or near level 70.

 

They do not show a recommendation for your off hand equipment slot.  I don't know if this was an oversight or if they assume you will be using a two-handed weapon or dual-wielding.  Either way, the guide could be more clear about it.

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This Barbarian build seems out of date... It mentions things I don't have and I have more slots than they show here

The only thing that's out of date that I know of is the Swords to Ploughshares rune from Battle Rage has changed.  Instead of dropping health globes, it heals you directly.

 

If your character is not yet level 70, then you won't have everything listed.  You add in the skills and runes it recommends as you level up .  Some of them aren't available until at or near level 70.

 

They do not show a recommendation for your off hand equipment slot.  I don't know if this was an oversight or if they assume you will be using a two-handed weapon or dual-wielding.  Either way, the guide could be more clear about it.

 

 

As of Feb 5 2016 this appears to be garbage. My barbarian doesnt have Rend, cant have Battle Rage is #2 which means you cant have BOTH Battle Rage and War Cry in 3

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This Barbarian build seems out of date... It mentions things I don't have and I have more slots than they show here

The only thing that's out of date that I know of is the Swords to Ploughshares rune from Battle Rage has changed.  Instead of dropping health globes, it heals you directly.

 

If your character is not yet level 70, then you won't have everything listed.  You add in the skills and runes it recommends as you level up .  Some of them aren't available until at or near level 70.

 

They do not show a recommendation for your off hand equipment slot.  I don't know if this was an oversight or if they assume you will be using a two-handed weapon or dual-wielding.  Either way, the guide could be more clear about it.

 

 

As of Feb 5 2016 this appears to be garbage. My barbarian doesnt have Rend, cant have Battle Rage is #2 which means you cant have BOTH Battle Rage and War Cry in 3

 

It sounds like you need to enable Elective Mode. Open your game menu, choose “options,” then “gameplay,” and check the “elective mode” box. Then you can put any skill to any spot on your bar, and choose more than one skill from the same section.  Let me know if that fixes your problem or not.

 

Elective mode is required for all but the most basic, beginner setups.  I'm not sure why they don't just have it enabled by default.

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This build is working great for me in low difficulty nepahlem rifts right now, but you can easily run into a fury-starved situation in solo greater rifts with this, since everything else despawns when the rift guardian shows up.

 

I found replacing Sprint with Furious Charge helped with a lot of those problems.

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Does it really work that great without the orb drop from swords to plow shares?  It seems to hinge on it.

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What skill would one suggest dropping in favor of Call of the Ancients if you have 2 (or more) of IK's set pieces?

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8 hours ago, Guest CoA Skill Swap? said:

What skill would one suggest dropping in favor of Call of the Ancients if you have 2 (or more) of IK's set pieces?

I'm not an expert, but I would say it depends on which rune you choose with Call of the Ancients.  If you choose Together as One, which will cut your damage in half, then get rid of War Cry, as you won't need the armor buff (for now.)  If you choose a damage-oriented rune, then maybe drop Battle Rage (but watch how that effects your healing.)  If you choose Ancients Fury, you will have virtually unlimited fury, so you can drop the Unforgiven passive.  But which skill to drop there...  Well, you will have enough fury to Whirlwind non-stop, so you might even drop Rend.  Either way, change your Whirlwind rune to something else like Blood Funnel, since you won't need it to generate fury.

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Note that the video was made in 2015 and the guide updated recently. That's also a reason there might be slight discrepancy (like weapon secondaries).

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Is there a catch with using rend as a primary attack? Although it does lots of damage and pretty good work at cleaning large packs of mobs, I can't seem to have enough furry to sustain it.

I'm 70 paragon 34. Am I doing something wrong?

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7 hours ago, mijansky said:

Is there a catch with using rend as a primary attack? Although it does lots of damage and pretty good work at cleaning large packs of mobs, I can't seem to have enough furry to sustain it.

I'm 70 paragon 34. Am I doing something wrong?

Whirlwind will act as your primary generator, since the rune grants you fury when it hits an enemy. You will basically be constantly whirlwinding, while using Rend when you can.

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These guides, aside from the basic aspect that they show how to build a skills build together, are really quite confusing and less than helpful.  Case in point is this IK set Barb build.  

The guide says "Items that are recommended and should be priority to obtain for the Immortal King's Call set (which Season 8 Barbarians obtain in full from Haedrig's Gifts) are:" and then proceeds to give a list of gear which mostly doesn't support the build and skills given AT ALL - no Hammer of the Ancients for Gavel of Judgement or Bracers of the First men to boost, no Seismic Slam to get any benefit from Fury of the Vanished Peak or Bracers of Destruction.  Likewise, Lamentation and Chilanik's Chian are listed without either of their related skills being part of the build.  Suggested gear also includes both Endless Walk and Bastions of Will jewelry sets, which cannot be usefully combined.  

Gear suggestions should be written specifically for the build they're presented with, not as a general synopsis of the entire class...doing so is just lazy and not helpful.

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18 hours ago, Guest BearakKGM said:

Gear suggestions should be written specifically for the build they're presented with, not as a general synopsis of the entire class...doing so is just lazy and not helpful.

Hello there, and thanks for the feedback. While the "staple items for X set" list had its use, I can see how you found it jumbled and confusing rather than helpful, so I have pushed an update on their presentation. I hope their purpose becomes clearer, and the beginner guides now point you better to intermediate/late game guides.

As for the remainder of the guide, both its leveling and "fresh 6 piece set" builds assume no specific gear at all, and merely point you towards a spec that works from the get go. Hopefully their purpose as a broad introduction to the class are better fulfilled now.

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On 11/8/2016 at 4:08 AM, Guest netanio said:

I justed wanted to say ... this guide rocks ! Thanks.

You're welcome, thanks for the kind comment! :)

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