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Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wtjTmzcrqFv84CxV/

armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Nauzhror/advanced

 

I was just wondering what I could change to improve my healing per second :D any information would be useful

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First of all - u have in raid 3 holy pals, its wierd. Its rly hard for pally heal aoe, couse it will consume tons of our mana(i prefer radiance-shock-radiance-light of dawn combo or shock-LoD-radiance-LoD-shock with talant Holy Avanger for mana-efficient aoe heal). Maby u shoud try another build for this setup - with HolyAvanger for more AoE heal, maby you shoud beacon not tanks, but other raid members. Not shure about this, couse its not what pally shoud do, but if your raid setup always 3 pall, u shoud adopt(or find good rdruid+rsham for more great saves and raid-heal). If you ok with mana at last phase, maby you want radiance a bit more often(with shock prock it will give you good aoe heal burst), but dont spam it, ~5-10 cast per battle.

 

I always have my beacon on top of recount/skada, wonder why u dont(last pull). Also as HolyPal u want mitigate as much damage as u can - divine protection for every arcane nova(dont remember proper name) or for debuff-tick. Didnt saw Master aura from u, u shoud use it at start(for first nova) and then when 2 ogres come and your raid killing small mobs(high raid aoe dmg). Our raid kill them all at same time with totem+ma+priest aoe shield and tranquility from rdruid, if your raid dont kill them this way - use ma when 2-3 mobs will die at same time(you have to track mobs hp).

 

But for me - your problem 2 other holy pals, couse for us best friend druid or shaman(they have good aoe heal).

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You need logs from Heroic for anything feedback wise though as your all massively overgeared for normal and the overheal is minimal [despite the fact that theres only 2 tanks and a max 6 Beacons of Light] which means there was very little incoming damage and you all /danced for most of the fight [1 Cast of holy prism even though its on a 20s cd and its free dps as well as healing]

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I've been doing a lot of research and following Holly Pallys that push good numbers. However, I still haven't been able to push the expected/required numbers that I should. Currently, I'm trying to pick up healing with the EF rotation. I'm failing miserably. Oddly, I push the most HPS being Selfless Healer (all forums say no). 

 

Current rotation with EF:

 

Holy Shock (every chance) > Spam Holy Light/Flash > EF (on tanks)

I keep Beacons on both tanks.

 

Problem I have with this rotation is my Holy Light takes forever to get off! I try to focus on haste with stat priority. Here is a link to my toon's armory.

Any and all help with my rotation or thought process while healing will be greatly appreciated!

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Ballhawk/simple 

Edited by Ballhawk

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Key is knowing when to use what and anticipating damage.  Casting a heal so it lands just as damage is taken will help in many ways.

 

You should use a HR rotation when you have a throughput CD up (wings, Shards of Nothing, hero, etc) and the raid is taking enormous damage (see: earthquakes on Tectus).  It's very good to burst up stacked groups when you have a throughput CD, but is otherwise lackluster due to the mana cost. If the raid is spread, abandon it altogether. 

 

Much better to regularly single target raid heal with HL, FoL, HS and EF (or WoG) so you're keeping consistent heals on both tanks and also contributing to raid heals.  Let the classes better suited to steady AOE healing handle the little stuff.  They will keep people with enough health to live while you get around to burst them to full.  Naturally, always use Holy Shock on cooldown.  

 

Lastly, stop raiding with two other Holy Pallies.  Diversity is important in the workplace! laugh.png

 

Here are some of my logs and my armory:

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aBTpAqgLxWGkbzrV#fight=2

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gnomeregan/Dogadin/advanced

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