Unavailabled

Sub Rogue DPS and AoE DPS Help Please!

Sign in to follow this  

7 posts in this topic

Okay, where do I start. I am fairly new to sub, but I think I pretty much have what I have to do down, such as uptimes on DoTs, CD Management, and what I should be doing in my opener. I am 662 ilvl, and probably the lowest out of everyone in DPS in my Mythic Progression. Heck, I went into LFR for some practice and was almost getting beat in DPS there. I pull about 40-60k burst with Garrote > Ambush > Shadow Reflect > Rupture opener with prepot (Don't know why my burst numbers are different a lot of the times, I always do the same opener) and hold 32k DPS at BEST. I usually end up dropping off to about 24-26k. This isn't my main question though because I can't supply some good logs on what I am doing until later on tonight, but if anyone can come in and stick around until I can post some tonight it would be a great help.

 

My huge question is, what the hell do I do in multi-target situations? I see a lot of different answers, and I am just not getting anywhere. Some say dont use CT, some say use it as main combo point spender. Some say use dance and put find weakness on multi-targets, some say just single target once you have your dance going. I just have no clue what to do. I am specifically talking about Mythic Bracken and Mythic Tectus (Which we will be doing after Bracken.) For Bracken, whenever the add came out, I kept rupture up on both bracken and the add, while using FoK and CT as my main combo point spender, until the add died. Whenever my Shadow Dance or shadow reflection came up, I just didnt know what to do with them, and ended up waiting until the add was dead. I didnt know how to use them in multi-target. I didnt even know if FoK/CT spam with rupture on both targets was even the right thing to do. I would really want to know how I should handle these AoE situations before we get to tectus if anyone is willing to help ! :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FoK as CP builder, but I only keep the DoT up on CT unless it's 4+ targets

 

Some people do rotate exlusively with it for 2 targets, but I don't think it's any real benefit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Alright well I took CT out of my rotation for Brackenspore tonight, and I think I did a lot better not having to worry about that extra DoT. Don't know if having it in my rotation is beneficial, but it helped me to take it out of my rotation, too much to worry about learning sub especially when worrying about all mechanics and being part of the interrupters list. I am trying to paste my logs for tonight but it isn't letting me paste or use the link button. Im using IE right now, how would I post my logs link?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay IE just wasn't letting me use that button, but here are some of my Mythic Brackenspore attempts as of last night. 

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nWKkhbrLtmRCwzcq

 

Sometimes I dropped off to 25k, and others I held myself at 27-28k. I think at this time I should be holding myself at around 30k+ though I am not sure. Like I said I took CT out of my rotation and it helped me focus on other things, but when it came to multi-target I still didn't know what to do with Shadow Dance and Shadow Reflection. Do I use Ambush just to apply FW, and then use FoK/Eviscerate spam while FW is up? Or do I try to get in all the ambushes/Eviscerates I can?

 

Even though I am posting a multi-target fight, both multi-target and single-target help would be very appreciated. Like I said I am fairly new, so I still know I also have single-target problems, we just happened to be doing a multi-target fight last night. Here is my Armory link also:

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Unavailabled/simple

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can't view your logs to give you any help, they're set to Private

 

I use my cooldowns as normal, on whatever target needs to die the most. If there isn't one, I save them for when there is one (for example, if I got upstairs on Kargath)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Nobbykinz
      Autumn Mist is a raiding & social guild looking for players like you.
      http://www.autumn-mist.net

      We are mostly searching to increase our DPS raid team so we can advance onto Mythic.
      We are a very active guild with events on most days:

      Wed: TOS Heroic
      Thurs: TOS Heroic  
      Fri: Mythic + night  
      Sat: Day of Alcohol
      Sun: TOS Mythic  
      Mon: TOS Normal  
      Tues: Transmog Tuesday  

      All starting at 8pm Server time other then the whole day events and posted in the calender.
      Feel free to apply via the website, or add me on bnet if you want a chat, Nobbykinz#2994 all questions welcome.
    • By Nerenahlil
      I had some great help with my Fury build from this forum, and have recently attempted to try Arms. 
       
      My guild did a full normal ToS run today, and i captured the logs. I seem to be parsing OK, but it felt clunky.
       
      Here are the logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mfLjRTWXrkb4ZxQY/#boss=-2&difficulty=0&source=20
      Armory:  https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/nagrand/çleâvâgé
       
      Any pointers would be appreciated.
       
    • By Chumani
      Aka'magosh my raider friends! Chumani here from Corrupted Destiny guild (Horde) on Skywall/Drak'thul realms. We are currently recruiting for our core team for mythic raiding. We are 6/9 H ToS....  Consistant and Dependable members! (Who can handle cutting up and getting yelled at.... by a certain mage in our guild.... who cuts up too.... and won't admit it..... and puts down fake portals.... every week..... and people still take them.... to their death..... really......week..... after week.... to their death...... seriously)
      As always we are recruiting raiders and non raiders.
      *****GIRLS***** We have a large number of female gamers who do not have to worry about harrasment of any kind...we just will not tolerate this... and our group is like family. Come see for yourself!
      Tired of the ridiculous harassment from the opposite sex? You will be safe with us! Mature gamers who do not condone this behaviour!
      Our raid schedule is Tuesday/Thursday/Sunday 6:30pm to 9:00pm server time(pst)
      We currently have an "Alt" raid for alts and non-progression raiders on Mondays at the same time! MEGA amounts of fun there, alot of us use our mains to carry this raid and help gear these raiders up!
      Other guild events include: Herb Drives, Fishing Expo, Mog off! (Best transmog wins), Old Raids for Transmog gear & Mythic Plus runs. We do random guild events with prizes up to and including a FREE MONTH OF WOW! (Mog-Off is going on NOW!!)
      We have quite a bit of fun when we get together, as we always have over the years! Come join us and get corrupted (Disclaimer: Infections have been found to be the leading cause of corruption in many raiders) We've always been here and will continue to be here! Of course you will be required to sacrifice a goat or an alliance player once a week to the Horde gods..... You will also be required to laugh and have fun as well! We do have fun!
      So.......COME.......GET.......CORRUPTED!
      Chu@12466 - Deni#1743 
      ***Newest video highlighting some of our girls!****
      (We are just huge nerds who see ourselves as badass warriors!... ok!)
      ******We also have one of our members who has published some 'how to' videos for certain in game mounts!!*** Keep eye out for Barcat, one of our casual members and professional mount hoarder and his youtube channel for these vids! Will post one in comment below*******
      http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=247413
    • By Mezasu
      I've been playing a hunter for as long as I've been playing this game.  And for the first time in raiding, I feel like I am not doing my best and I cannot figure out why. I look at second by second rotations of top parsing hunters. In the past I was the one helping others out and writing small guides on forums...now I'm the one asking for help. 
      Here is a link to Goroth Mythic (my hunter's name is Mezäsu):
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KjRvcMqbYGrp16Bt#fight=3
      I am very open to criticism and any help anyone has to offer.
      I tried going into the Discord to ask for help there but was not able to get a word in (as the helpers were busy with other people). Hoping I may have better luck here.
    • By Drakmeister
      Hola my lovely Warriors,
       
      im pretty new to the game and spend a lot of time checking for possible guides etc. for the arms.
      Right now im sitting at 913 GS. Pls find here the link to my stats: https://worldofwarcraft.com/de-de/character/blackhand/drakmeister
      I would love if you could help me on the following points:
      1.) Which talents are the best? I started with Lvl45 talent -> First one  and lvl 75 talent-> first one.
      I met some people who told me if i go for single target dmg like TOS is most likely then i should switch to "REND" and "Might oif titan"....
      Right now i have not found the best choices for me. Looking forward to hear your comments.
       
      2.) My stats: See on the link above my Stats. I'm kind of unable to reach more mastery to increase my damage. What do you guys suggest?
      3.) The f.king Rotation / Priority on my skills:
      i guess im doing a lot lot lot of mistakes when it comes to use my skills. Right now i play as follows:
       
      i open with Charge, followed by rend and then CS. After this im using Battle cry and Bladestorm.
      Then it comes to the usual rotation and i use CS followed by MS and filled with slam until i getr a proc for my CS. If i get it i use it and use MS after.
      i try to have rend always on the boss. ( i'm not able to hold iut because of boss movement and other stuff).
       
      YOu guys think this use of skills is ok or do you have any changes for me? am i using my priorities right? (Using CS when i get a proc followed by MS??)
      Right now my DPS at any boss is way too low and i have to improve.
       
      Please let me know you honest comments and help me to get a better arms!! :)
       
      Thank you very much in advance. Looking forward to your comments,
       
      Regards,
      Drakmeister
       
      @EDIT: Let me know if you need any additional informations!