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Okay, where do I start. I am fairly new to sub, but I think I pretty much have what I have to do down, such as uptimes on DoTs, CD Management, and what I should be doing in my opener. I am 662 ilvl, and probably the lowest out of everyone in DPS in my Mythic Progression. Heck, I went into LFR for some practice and was almost getting beat in DPS there. I pull about 40-60k burst with Garrote > Ambush > Shadow Reflect > Rupture opener with prepot (Don't know why my burst numbers are different a lot of the times, I always do the same opener) and hold 32k DPS at BEST. I usually end up dropping off to about 24-26k. This isn't my main question though because I can't supply some good logs on what I am doing until later on tonight, but if anyone can come in and stick around until I can post some tonight it would be a great help.

 

My huge question is, what the hell do I do in multi-target situations? I see a lot of different answers, and I am just not getting anywhere. Some say dont use CT, some say use it as main combo point spender. Some say use dance and put find weakness on multi-targets, some say just single target once you have your dance going. I just have no clue what to do. I am specifically talking about Mythic Bracken and Mythic Tectus (Which we will be doing after Bracken.) For Bracken, whenever the add came out, I kept rupture up on both bracken and the add, while using FoK and CT as my main combo point spender, until the add died. Whenever my Shadow Dance or shadow reflection came up, I just didnt know what to do with them, and ended up waiting until the add was dead. I didnt know how to use them in multi-target. I didnt even know if FoK/CT spam with rupture on both targets was even the right thing to do. I would really want to know how I should handle these AoE situations before we get to tectus if anyone is willing to help ! :(

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FoK as CP builder, but I only keep the DoT up on CT unless it's 4+ targets

 

Some people do rotate exlusively with it for 2 targets, but I don't think it's any real benefit

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Alright well I took CT out of my rotation for Brackenspore tonight, and I think I did a lot better not having to worry about that extra DoT. Don't know if having it in my rotation is beneficial, but it helped me to take it out of my rotation, too much to worry about learning sub especially when worrying about all mechanics and being part of the interrupters list. I am trying to paste my logs for tonight but it isn't letting me paste or use the link button. Im using IE right now, how would I post my logs link?

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There's a little hyperlink button at the top when you post a message

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Okay IE just wasn't letting me use that button, but here are some of my Mythic Brackenspore attempts as of last night. 

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nWKkhbrLtmRCwzcq

 

Sometimes I dropped off to 25k, and others I held myself at 27-28k. I think at this time I should be holding myself at around 30k+ though I am not sure. Like I said I took CT out of my rotation and it helped me focus on other things, but when it came to multi-target I still didn't know what to do with Shadow Dance and Shadow Reflection. Do I use Ambush just to apply FW, and then use FoK/Eviscerate spam while FW is up? Or do I try to get in all the ambushes/Eviscerates I can?

 

Even though I am posting a multi-target fight, both multi-target and single-target help would be very appreciated. Like I said I am fairly new, so I still know I also have single-target problems, we just happened to be doing a multi-target fight last night. Here is my Armory link also:

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Unavailabled/simple

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Can't view your logs to give you any help, they're set to Private

 

I use my cooldowns as normal, on whatever target needs to die the most. If there isn't one, I save them for when there is one (for example, if I got upstairs on Kargath)

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