Unavailabled

Sub Rogue DPS and AoE DPS Help Please!

Sign in to follow this  

7 posts in this topic

Okay, where do I start. I am fairly new to sub, but I think I pretty much have what I have to do down, such as uptimes on DoTs, CD Management, and what I should be doing in my opener. I am 662 ilvl, and probably the lowest out of everyone in DPS in my Mythic Progression. Heck, I went into LFR for some practice and was almost getting beat in DPS there. I pull about 40-60k burst with Garrote > Ambush > Shadow Reflect > Rupture opener with prepot (Don't know why my burst numbers are different a lot of the times, I always do the same opener) and hold 32k DPS at BEST. I usually end up dropping off to about 24-26k. This isn't my main question though because I can't supply some good logs on what I am doing until later on tonight, but if anyone can come in and stick around until I can post some tonight it would be a great help.

 

My huge question is, what the hell do I do in multi-target situations? I see a lot of different answers, and I am just not getting anywhere. Some say dont use CT, some say use it as main combo point spender. Some say use dance and put find weakness on multi-targets, some say just single target once you have your dance going. I just have no clue what to do. I am specifically talking about Mythic Bracken and Mythic Tectus (Which we will be doing after Bracken.) For Bracken, whenever the add came out, I kept rupture up on both bracken and the add, while using FoK and CT as my main combo point spender, until the add died. Whenever my Shadow Dance or shadow reflection came up, I just didnt know what to do with them, and ended up waiting until the add was dead. I didnt know how to use them in multi-target. I didnt even know if FoK/CT spam with rupture on both targets was even the right thing to do. I would really want to know how I should handle these AoE situations before we get to tectus if anyone is willing to help ! :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FoK as CP builder, but I only keep the DoT up on CT unless it's 4+ targets

 

Some people do rotate exlusively with it for 2 targets, but I don't think it's any real benefit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Alright well I took CT out of my rotation for Brackenspore tonight, and I think I did a lot better not having to worry about that extra DoT. Don't know if having it in my rotation is beneficial, but it helped me to take it out of my rotation, too much to worry about learning sub especially when worrying about all mechanics and being part of the interrupters list. I am trying to paste my logs for tonight but it isn't letting me paste or use the link button. Im using IE right now, how would I post my logs link?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay IE just wasn't letting me use that button, but here are some of my Mythic Brackenspore attempts as of last night. 

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nWKkhbrLtmRCwzcq

 

Sometimes I dropped off to 25k, and others I held myself at 27-28k. I think at this time I should be holding myself at around 30k+ though I am not sure. Like I said I took CT out of my rotation and it helped me focus on other things, but when it came to multi-target I still didn't know what to do with Shadow Dance and Shadow Reflection. Do I use Ambush just to apply FW, and then use FoK/Eviscerate spam while FW is up? Or do I try to get in all the ambushes/Eviscerates I can?

 

Even though I am posting a multi-target fight, both multi-target and single-target help would be very appreciated. Like I said I am fairly new, so I still know I also have single-target problems, we just happened to be doing a multi-target fight last night. Here is my Armory link also:

 

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Unavailabled/simple

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can't view your logs to give you any help, they're set to Private

 

I use my cooldowns as normal, on whatever target needs to die the most. If there isn't one, I save them for when there is one (for example, if I got upstairs on Kargath)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Violentravi
      Hello,
      The Sworn is recruiting DPS. We are a Horde guild on Arthas and our current progression is 5/11 Mythic Antorus. We only raid two nights a week, Tuesday and Wednesday from 9:15 PM until 12:15 AM Eastern. Currently, our main goal is to push Mythic progression & finish out the raid before next patch, please keep this in mind if you wish to join us, because we will not be doing Heroic or anything like that.
      From you, we would expect 100% attendance during your trial period; after that if you cannot make a raid or will be late it is mandatory to keep the raid leader updated. In order to continue making good progression while raiding only two nights a week, we expect that you know your class inside-out and will research any bosses you are unfamiliar with prior to raids.
      As far as classes are concerned, at this time, we do not have ANY rogues, DPS warriors, havoc DH, or wind walkers.
      If you are interested, add me to battle tag and we will talk (violentravi#1826), I will accept mostly anyone who wants to be a bench or casual, but for raiding purposes, you must be able to provide logs.
      Thank you for your consideration
      Xoxo
      Violentnacho
    • By Ayriea
      Last Pull is a progression focused mythic raiding guild located on the US Cenarius realm. Founded in February 2007, Last Pull has been raiding high end content, not missing a single tier, since the early days of Burning Crusade
      Like any progress guild, we put an emphasis on performance and creating a roster that will succeed in even the toughest content, but we put just as much value on fostering a strong, respectful, and stable community where our raiders can feel at home. We feel this combination of ideals is the secret that has kept our guild both stable and successful.

      Recruitment Needs
      We are currently looking to fill 1 DPS and an exceptional healer to our roster. Please see below for the classes we're looking for.
      - Warlock
      - Mage
      - Shadow Priest
      - Boomkin / Resto Druid
      - Elemental / Enhancement Shaman
      - Windwalker / Mistweaver Monk
      - Rogue
      - Death Knight
      - Demon Hunter
      If we are not looking for your class, feel free to apply as we will happily make exceptions for great players. Our primary goal is to find players who will fit in well with our community and have an eye on constant improvement. 
       
      Raiding Schedule
      Tues/Wed/Thurs
      7-10 PM server time (PST)
      Raid invites go out 15 mins before raid time. 

      There is an optional alt raid on Saturdays where we clear normal Antorus and some heroic bosses if people are interested. 

      Progression
      We raid Tues/Weds/Thurs from 7 to 10 pm pacific time.
      - 7/11 Mythic Antorus 
      - 7/9 Mythic TOS
      - 6/10 Mythic NH

      Contact Us
      Interested in checking us out?
      Visit our discord at https://discord.gg/W6UYdvu
      Check out our website at http://www.lastpull.com
      Officers Battle.net - Slimey42#0202 / Illestra#1465 / Avandar#1669
      Officers Discord - Illestra#3916 / Avandar#6729
    • By Javalvik
      <Exo> is an old guild from Dragonblight which semi-recently transferred to Stormrage in search of mythic raiders. We are a guild full of experienced raiders always looking to expand our roster. 
      We are not a world first guild nor do we aim to be. Our primary goal is to get loot and have a good time, however this still means on progression nights we do expect you to show up, put on your serious face, and kill some shit.
      Our raids are on 3 nights a week; Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday from 9pm-12 Server Time (EST). The Monday raids are optional farm/alt nights (Normal/Heroic) with Tuesday/Wednesday being mandatory progression nights.
      Currently we are in need of any competent DPS, off specs are always a welcome addition but not required. Performance and skill will be looked at above gear, experience, or class.
      We do not have a minimum item level required to join our raid team, however we will require you to catch up in our Monday farm-runs up until you are at a mythic level.
      If you have any questions or are interested in joining or trialing with us please add Pasha#1800, Java#1849 or Bushido#1988 on bnet to talk with an officer.
    • By Maplefire
      Looking for a fun, casually serious progression guild? Hordeland Security could be your new home! We started at launch, and have raided on Blackhand, Baelgun, and now Turalyon. 

      We currently raid on Tuesdays and Thursdays 19:00- 21:15 CDT. We understand that no one has an unlimited amount of time to play. We raid with a fun, casual, yet goal oriented focus to finish heroic in current content.
      Interested? Drop us a line!
      Deputy Raid Leader: Duerdon#1111
      Director: Saffy#1122
      -or-
      lil ol' me - Maplefire#1200 - (mention you're from the Icy Veins thread in the friend request so my brain won't explode)
      Thanks for your consideration - happy raiding!